wyleyrabbit
Well-known member
Wow. I had no idea someone could copyright a floorplan. Next we'll read that one truck company is suing another based on the layout of the instrumentation panel and seats. Sheesh.
It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.
It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.
CrazyScotsman
Well-known member
I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to come up with a floorplan similar to the competitors There is only so much you can design into a rectanguar box on wheels. Eventually it will look like some other manufacturers design.
JMHO
JMHO
RoadJunkie
Well-known member
The article indicates the HL design is "too close" to the FR design. How close is too close?
caissiel
Senior Member
I saw a new Montana the other month and it was just like mine on the outside and the HL lower front storage was also used, and also saw the new Forest River Cedar Creak brochure and they also have the lower storage fronts. SO WHO WAS 1ST????????. I think they are all lippert framed units.
TXBobcat
Fulltime
Think about it.
We all use the same refer, heater, couches, chairs, sinks, wheels, axles, tires, water, sewer and gray tanks, AC, power cords, steps, doors, lights, carpet, pin boxes, tail lignts, marker lights, paint, graphics, beds, sinks, faucets, toilets, stove, shower and so on.
What is left.. arranging them in a fashion that people can use.
Only a few ways to arrange a living room, bed room, kitchen, toilet room, shower.
Maybe if FR would make a trailer that had no doors they would have the only trailer that no one would want to worry about copying...
BC
We all use the same refer, heater, couches, chairs, sinks, wheels, axles, tires, water, sewer and gray tanks, AC, power cords, steps, doors, lights, carpet, pin boxes, tail lignts, marker lights, paint, graphics, beds, sinks, faucets, toilets, stove, shower and so on.
What is left.. arranging them in a fashion that people can use.
Only a few ways to arrange a living room, bed room, kitchen, toilet room, shower.
Maybe if FR would make a trailer that had no doors they would have the only trailer that no one would want to worry about copying...
BC
Jellystone
Well-known member
Every time we go camping, the campgrounds are loaded w/Forest River units. Keystone is no slouch either in the markets down here. But Heartland has been creeping in quietly with more & more units all the time. You don't think that FR is getting nervous do you?
SouthernNights
Past South Carolina Chapter Leader
If you go on FR main site you get an idea of how big this company really is. HL, on the other hand appears to be a small player based their website. However, HL must be putting a dent in FR bottom line to have filed suit against them 3 times.
At first look the floorplans look similar between the two models, but as Ken said, you can only do so much in a rectangular box. I am sure HL considered the suit possibilty prior to introducing this model.
I would imagine they have their ducks in a row and were prepared for this.
At first look the floorplans look similar between the two models, but as Ken said, you can only do so much in a rectangular box. I am sure HL considered the suit possibilty prior to introducing this model.
I would imagine they have their ducks in a row and were prepared for this.
SilverRhino
Well-known member
Abuse of the System
This is ridiculous! No wonder the courts are backed up.
The only people that come out ahead in these matters, are the lawyers that come up with these law suits.
Okay, that said, all lawyers are not "ambulance chasers", most are very professional. ( Have two in the immediate family that complain about the image the majority receive based on the few! )
This is ridiculous! No wonder the courts are backed up.
The only people that come out ahead in these matters, are the lawyers that come up with these law suits.
Okay, that said, all lawyers are not "ambulance chasers", most are very professional. ( Have two in the immediate family that complain about the image the majority receive based on the few! )
TXBobcat
Fulltime
I am curious. If this is the third suit against HL, what was the out come of the previous suits. If HL won it would seem that FR would a bit gun shy about doing it again. If FR won it would give them insentives to continue files suits.
I had a neighbor file suit against us. When the judge ruled in my favor and had them pay the court cost he left me alone.
BC
I had a neighbor file suit against us. When the judge ruled in my favor and had them pay the court cost he left me alone.
BC
wyleyrabbit
Well-known member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the RP-176 mentioned in the case is a little tiny 18 foot travel trailer. Is that right? Unless I am missing something, I don't see anything on Heartland's website that even resembles the RP-176 named in the suit.
2010augusta
Well-known member
It is over the new Heartland MPG.
Riverman
Well-known member
Yeah like should we have the table next to the shower? or the shower next to the table?
CrazyScotsman
Well-known member
HL could have put the a/c through the back window, then put dinette outside, so when set up as a bed you could sleep under the stars, that way shower not next to table, and stove would be beside shower, keep you warm on these cold mornings when you hop out the shower.
Larryheadhunter
X-Rookies Still Luving it
Sounds like Forest River is trying to anything to slow down HL growth. I wonder if they are in cahoots with other RV manufacturers in the same boat, rowing upstream against HL.
SouthernNights
Past South Carolina Chapter Leader
I knew I had seen that floorplan that FR says they own somewhere. When I was growing up, good friends of my parents had a Scotty. They are back making them and here is the same floorplan my parents friends had 40 years ago
http://www.scottytrailers.com/images/sport-floor.gif
Wonder why Scotty doesn't sue FR?
http://www.scottytrailers.com/images/sport-floor.gif
Wonder why Scotty doesn't sue FR?
