Thanks, John. Must be you bugged Don into getting the internet running! We'll be back late Monday night (got a funeral to deal with Mon aft/eve). Ranch RV in Alanson is supposed to have a heating element in for me on Tuesday. Reading some different posts on the forum, I see the problem could be some other things, like the upper limit relay, or, get this, if you shut off the shower at the shower head and forget to turn off the faucets, the water will cycle through the system, faster than the water heater can reheat it. I did shower Tuesday evening, then Wednesday morning is when I discovered we had no hot water. I do use the shut off at the shower head when showering to save water while lathering up. I don't remember if I shut off the faucets or not. See ya Monday night or sometime Tuesday. Bill