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alkyspeed
07-01-2010, 01:47 AM
Here's the fix for lighting the pilot flame for your oven. Tried the one spark ignitor but did not have very good luck with that system. It lit about one time out of 50 tries -- not a good average.
This universal fit ignitor is available at Meijer stores and I'm sure other places. Push the button and you get a constant spark which will light the pilot. Once burning the thermocouple takes over and the oven will light normally.
So much better than lying on the floor and trying to see the pilot tube and trying to light it with a match or even a bar-b-que lighter.

Ray LeTourneau
07-01-2010, 09:32 AM
Great Idea! There have been several members that have done a similar mod. I tried it with the same results as your first attemp with the single click igniter. Looks like I may have to go shopping again.

Duramax1
07-01-2010, 11:49 AM
Looks like a great modification.

How did you make the hole in the front of your stove to accommodate the electronic lighter?

alkyspeed
07-01-2010, 12:27 PM
I used a Blu-Mol Bi-Metal 3/4" hole saw. Worked great and perfect fit.


Looks like a great modification.

How did you make the hole in the front of your stove to accommodate the electronic lighter?

Wharton
07-02-2010, 02:55 AM
Does this require a battery? I have looked in Lowes and HD and cannot find a continuous spark igniter. Sure would solve a problem.

alkyspeed
07-02-2010, 10:23 AM
The Universal lighter kit shown comes with a AA battery included.

2010augusta
07-02-2010, 06:30 PM
Okay, so what is the "trick" to the position of the sparking tip? Where should the spark be aimed? I got a 4 burner igniter, so I plan to use it for the three stove burners and the oven.

Wharton
07-03-2010, 03:50 AM
Your range should have a piezo lighter built in. I know our BH does and so did our previous trailers. The problem is the oven, you need to stand on your head to light it. I don't use my oven as much as I would like because of this.

Duramax1
07-03-2010, 10:25 AM
Okay, so what is the "trick" to the position of the sparking tip? Where should the spark be aimed? I got a 4 burner igniter, so I plan to use it for the three stove burners and the oven.

Your idea of using the igniter for more than just the oven sounds great.

Where did you purchase your ignitor kit?

2010augusta
07-03-2010, 10:35 AM
Your idea of using the igniter for more than just the oven sounds great.

Where did you purchase your ignitor kit?

I found a compact 1.5" x 3" AAA sparker on ebay for ~$19 and Home Depot has a larger AA unit for ~$28

alkyspeed
07-03-2010, 11:11 AM
Okay, so what is the "trick" to the position of the sparking tip? Where should the spark be aimed? I got a 4 burner igniter, so I plan to use it for the three stove burners and the oven.

I don't know about using the piezo ignitor for the burners; I didn't do that even though there were extra ignitors. That did not seem necessary to me because they are no problem lighting from topside. I was more concerned with lighting the oven pilot flame. Position the sparking tip about 1/8" from the metal at the pilot so it is directly in the gas stream.

Duramax1
07-04-2010, 01:26 PM
I found a compact 1.5" x 3" AAA sparker on ebay for ~$19 and Home Depot has a larger AA unit for ~$28

Has anyone tried using the Home Depot unit? I am concerned that the unit may be too large but possibly it is the same size as the unit installed by Alkyspeed. The Home Depot Unit is a Griil Pro and the unit installed by Alkyspeed is Grand Gourmet. I have not seen any Grand Gourmet units in my area.

alkyspeed
07-04-2010, 02:26 PM
The ignitor control unit is fairly large. I checked for other locations to install but the spot between the center knob and the knob to the left seemed to be the only place it would fit. You have to measure very carefully to locate the hole vertically. You know the old saying ----- Measure Twice (or more for me), Cut Once. Don't know about the size comparison of the two units from Home Depot compared to the one I bought from Meijers store.

Duramax1
07-04-2010, 04:41 PM
It is the vertical measurement that I am concerned with, as the ignitor will sit on the propane distribution tube and there is not that much vertical clearance to the bottom of the stove lid.

I took a measurement in the store today and I will need a minimum of 3 1/4 inches. I happened to find a food tin in our pantry at home which measures that height and I will take it to the trailer this coming week to see if it will fit.

Duramax1
07-05-2010, 07:11 PM
I checked today and as far as I can tell, the igniter from Home Depot is too large to fit.

davelinde
07-20-2010, 07:57 AM
I don't know about using the piezo ignitor for the burners; I didn't do that even though there were extra ignitors. That did not seem necessary to me because they are no problem lighting from topside.

Funny - I was thinking the opposite! On the stove, light the pilot and you are done... but with the range you need to find a lighter each time you cook. This is on my to-do list... For sure post pics/notes if anyone gets this working. THANKS.

Wharton
07-20-2010, 10:44 AM
On our 2011 BH there is a piezo lighter included on the range. If I remember correctly it is not part of burner knob but a sepearte button one pushes.

I find lighting the oven a bigger pest. We don't use it too often so we don't light the pilot, just a waste of propane.

PUG
07-20-2010, 11:21 AM
Jim; I have googled the Grand Gourmet continious spark ignitor and can't seem to find it online. I also looked at the Meijer online store and don't see it. Can you tell me the part # of the ignitor? Would this also work to do not only light the oven but the dual stovetops?

Thanks

alkyspeed
07-21-2010, 12:30 AM
I can't find the original box for the Grand Gourmet ignitor kit right now but this kit from WalMart online looks to me to be the same configuration. I will continue to look for the original container but I can't promise anything.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Electric-Ignitor-Kit/85873639431

PUG
07-21-2010, 10:49 AM
I have looked all over the internet trying to find the unit you bought but can't find one. I contacted the Co you got yours from and they don't have it in their mail order and don't mail out from their stores.

Could you find the item number, model, etc. so I can pinch down the search. I want to use it on the oven and the two top burners. Thanks

alkyspeed
07-22-2010, 12:06 PM
I have looked all over the internet trying to find the unit you bought but can't find one. I contacted the Co you got yours from and they don't have it in their mail order and don't mail out from their stores.

Could you find the item number, model, etc. so I can pinch down the search. I want to use it on the oven and the two top burners. Thanks

Pug- Here's a picture of the back of the grand Gourmet package. Customer service is 1-800-694-0013 Hope this helps. 9453

Duramax1
07-22-2010, 03:40 PM
I can't find the original box for the Grand Gourmet ignitor kit right now but this kit from WalMart online looks to me to be the same configuration. I will continue to look for the original container but I can't promise anything.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Electric-Ignitor-Kit/85873639431

Has anyone used this ignitor kit?

rancol01
01-03-2011, 10:43 PM
When I showed my wife this post she wanted me to order the parts ASAP, has anyone found a source to get the right ignitor. I'm ready to order several for our 5th wheel, our travel trailer and a couple for the in-law's rigs. Lighting the oven has to be one of the most annoying things about RVing.

rancol01
01-06-2011, 09:25 PM
Spotted some on ebay last night and snapped em up. Wife and Mother-in-law can't wait until they arrive and I put them in. Hope they work as advertised.

cashb
01-06-2011, 09:34 PM
Randy, let us know how it goes! We are interested in this mod too, as I'm sure many rvers will be!

rancol01
01-08-2011, 07:36 PM
Will do, they arrived today but I can't get around to installing them until early nex week. I have some additional ideas on the installation, it they work out I'll post along with photos.

rancol01
01-12-2011, 09:51 PM
OK, finished the project today; but it didn't go as smoothly as I had hoped. The spark generator was simply too big to fit the front panel of the Magic Chief range in our BH. The gas manifold in the Magic Chief runs directly behind the front panel and was in the way; the only way to mount it on the front panel would have raised the front of the front of the range top more than 1/2 inch making an unlevel cooking surface. After scratching my head for a while I modified the spark generator to operate with a momentary switch I purchased at Ace Hardware. The spark generator is now hidden under the range top (in the back corner) with the remote switch activating it. It was quite the trick modifying the spark generator but it now works very well. Since the kit with apply spark to up to three ignitors I have the one switch operating both the oven and range top. I'll post some pics in the next couple of days.

PUG
01-19-2011, 07:23 PM
Jim, I found a grand gourmet on ebay and have installed it. It comes wiith three ignitors. I used the longer on the oven and had to carefully bend it ard to get it in the rright place. I'm not going to use it for the topside. I had to remove screws in top of stove to pull it out to pull stove out a few inches to fish wire from top to bottom. Pullled shelves out of oven to be able to mt ignitor tip. Mounting ignitor module was tougher. Drilled 3/4hole fine but was still holding stovetop up 1/4". Used plastic hammer and body tool to bend stovetop up to fit. Porcelain broke up some. Got porcelain (black) repair kit from home depot and it actually turned out good. Works good, wifehappy. Thanks for the idea.

rancol01
02-07-2011, 06:33 PM
Ok, finally got around to taking some pics of the finished product. The pic quality is not very good due to the lighting and the wife was using the oven during the time so I had to make it snappy. I've made a couple of changes to the original install, I made a pseudo battery out of wood and made make-shift connections at each end with screws; this fits into the ignitor assembly which I mounted in a 3/4 in hole I drilled in the back of the range. You could simply leave the ignitor assembly lying under the range top but this looks much neater to me and there was plenty of room at the back of the range. The wire leads from the pseudo battery in the ignitor assembly are routed along the side of the range; one lead runs to a single AA battery holder with the other wire from the battery holder to one side of the momentary switch (normally off) which I mounted in place of the original ignitor knob. The other lead from the pseudo batter from the ignitor assembly is routed up to the other side of the momnetary switch. When the momentary swithch is pressed power is supplied to the ignitor assembly which operates ignitors both at the oven pilot light as well as the range burners. This took a little extra time and rigging, but now it works great and when the battery gets weak just pop the range top and insert a new battery. 1st pic, ignitor assembly with psuedo battery; 2nd pic, ignitor assembly installed at back of range top; 3rd pic, battery holder/wiring; 4th pic momentary switch on front panel.


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