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tdharley
10-25-2006, 07:42 PM
I look out my kitchen window Saturday night to see flames coming out of my windshield. My truck is engulfed in fire. The fire dept. puts it out & the arson squad says it was a electrical fire started in the dashboard. Were, they do not know. When asked that question the arson detective laughed and said,"what are we CSI"?

Anyway the insurance company shows up today and totals the vehicle and comes up with a very generous settlement.

Now I need to replace the truck. I want to do it before the new emissions kick in in Janurary. All the sales people say they will lose HP and I do not want to be a guinea pig.

So I need opioins on the big 3

Chevy- 6 speed tranny, quiet motor, crappy outdated interior,small back seat (crew cab) took 1st in an Edmunds test.

Ford- 5 speed tranny, loud motor,higher towing capacity, nicer interior (my opinion), took 2nd in edmunds test

Dodge-4 speed tranny, real nice interior, cavernous back seat (makes the bed smaller), GPS nav.,factory installed
exhaust brake & the most expensive of the three.

I am pulling a 3500 RL, which the sticker says is 10,950 lbs. which I do not think is correct since they have not added for the larger double door ref.,slide draw & center island. I also plan on putting in the washer & dryer.

The pricing on the 3 seems to be close with the Ford being the cheapest & the Dodge the most expensive.

Thanking you in advance

Trap
10-25-2006, 07:55 PM
You'll get a lot of opinions the only thing I can say is that the F-350 SRW has the highest GVWR of all of them, by about 1,000lbs.

Trap

arisce
10-25-2006, 08:04 PM
I would get a gas powered TV. The chevy has then all beat in this category. And if you wait one more month you can get the new interior and new exterior. This solution is cheaper, quieter and there is no taking a chance on new diesel emissions which will affect you whether you get the new diesel or the old. Just my opinion. But if you insist that diesel is the only way to go then the Cummins is your best bet. The tranny is the weakest point. But I heard that a new tranny is in the making. Early January 2007. Good luck!

ChopperBill
10-25-2006, 09:47 PM
Sorry about the truck. Hasn't ford been having trouble with fires? Think there has been a recall on the Speed control module or something of the sort causing fires. Chevy-Out dated crappy interior. Guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think they have the best looking and plushest interior.

billd
10-25-2006, 09:59 PM
Sorry to hear about the truck. I would go drive all three with them configured how you want them, then buy the one you like.

Right now all three have some weak points, but are working to fix them. I talked to the Ford people at the Pomona RV show and they said the new motor is going to jump the cost $3,000 to $5,000 to the base cost due to the new emissions requirements.

Me I love my 2005 F350 6.0 L diesel.

Good luck in choosing a new truck.

Bill

tdharley
10-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Yeah I am leaning toward a F350 King Ranch Dually.

I did see the new Chevy interior on a 1500 REAL NICE, definately needed it. The new Chevy's have a wood grain interior and much thicker, richer looking dashboard, they also updated the instrument panel not to mention the chiseled body. The heavier trucks wont be out until Feb./March. Actually I have a close friend who is a Chevy salesman and his advice was not to buy the first year emmisions motor since it will be losing quite a bit of HP and the modifications are not yet tested throughly. Remember the LB7 & LLY motors.

I made an offer on this truck: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120043290150&rd=1,1

Hope he goes for it

nhunter
10-25-2006, 11:37 PM
My friend has a Dodge 3500 with a GVW of 9400lbs and my Ford has a GVW of 11400lbs. Both are SRW 1ton 4x4. My F-350 is barely legal with a 3600RL. Plus a burnt Ford is still better than a Dodge!:D

Jim_1899
10-26-2006, 12:12 AM
Thats ashame to lose your truck especially from a fire. One good thing all your choices, Dodge, Ford and Chevy are all American. I had two suburbans. The last one was a 3/4 ton with a 454 with 5 kids I needed the passenger room and it pulled my travel trailer great. Now with 2 kids married I went to the Ford F350 which is a diesel. Its quieter and gets better gas mileage and has a lot of power, the best feature that I like is the breaking intergration.

I have a 2005 Chevy Pickup too its a 1/2 ton, the interior is like the suburban and it has more comfortable seats and a nicer intrument panel. My next truck I don't know which I will buy yet, but thats the fun part.

Tom of Ypsi
10-26-2006, 04:39 AM
Sorry about the truck. This is the first time I have heard of an electrical fire but with all of the electronics these days I guess all vehicles are fair game.
I saw the new, 08, F-350 on the road last Friday, good looking and quiet. Living in Michigan we sometimes get to see test trucks and cars. A friend has been doing the tests on the new Ford engines since last spring and says they are strong and quiet. He works for an independent company contracted by Ford to do tests. In the beginning they could not keep cam shafts in the new engine but that has been ironed out. He says the emissions on all new diesels after Jan 1 will suffer somewhat on milage but not to fret. Ford's is coming out with a F-450 with a pickup bed instead of having to go after market for a bed. All AMERICAN vehicles are good, have fun shopping and I am sure whatever you decide on will be good.

trdeal
10-26-2006, 02:06 PM
tdharley,
sorry about your truck. I would hate to think I could lose mine. But I know anything could happen. Good luck on your hunt.When you get your new baby, post some pictures so we all can see.:D

osims
10-26-2006, 03:20 PM
we have a ford and a dodge.i am in the cattle business and tow alot. most loads are heavier than my bighorn. both trucks have good features, the ford is more comfortablebut the 06 dodge dually has more raw pulling power

dieselengineer
10-26-2006, 05:25 PM
Sorry about the truck. If I had the chance, I would look into a MDT or HDT. I would have my eye on a Volvo VT 800 daycab. Now this is a real truck. Built for 1,000,000 miles plus, big Cummins ISX motor. 10 or 12 speed trans, lots of HP, and enough GVW to tow any coach that is made. You will not be over loaded! In the used market the prices are lower then you think.

timk
10-26-2006, 07:09 PM
My friend has a Dodge 3500 with a GVW of 9400lbs and my Ford has a GVW of 11400lbs. Both are SRW 1ton 4x4. My F-350 is barely legal with a 3600RL. Plus a burnt Ford is still better than a Dodge!:D

Thems fighting words....:rolleyes:

tdharley
10-26-2006, 08:03 PM
Hey dieselengineer ...........you opened one big can of worms for me. I cant go for that Volvo or a HDT but I am checking out the Chevy Kodiak 4500.:D

Check it out

http://www.truckpaper.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=1263821&guid=FB143D0CBCA246598FA689DE675ADAB9

Trap
10-26-2006, 08:08 PM
Fords bring out a really nice F-450 for the 08 Models comes with regular pickup truck bed, a nice looking unit. You can check them out at Ford.ca

Trap

tdharley
10-26-2006, 08:18 PM
Since I have been looking around I have found a lot of people having problems with the Ford tranny. One guy had it changed 3 times in a F450.

I think they use the same tranny & motor in all their models??????

Come to think of it my tranny was starting to slip & hesitate going into forward & reverse.

Anybody know more than me (not much) about which company makes a more reliable transmissions

ct0218
10-26-2006, 08:50 PM
The Allison is about as tough a transmission as you can get. Thousands and thousands in busses, 18 wheelers and motorhomes.

billd
10-26-2006, 09:20 PM
The GMC 4500 and 5500 series units are sweet. Roomy cabs and pleanty of power.

The freightliner M2 is a nice unit too, so dont count it out either.

Bill

dieselengineer
10-27-2006, 04:21 PM
Hey, MDT is okay in my book, a lot more truck to handle the load. More engines and trannys to select from. Real truck tires and wheels to handle the weight. A good way to go.

tdharley
11-07-2006, 02:12 PM
If anybody is interested in seeing what happens if you do not sacrifice to the camping gods................

Go here to see pictures of my truck fire

http://community.webshots.com/user/tdharley

Trap
11-07-2006, 02:42 PM
[quote=tdharley]Since I have been looking around I have found a lot of people having problems with the Ford tranny. One guy had it changed 3 times in a F450.



It sounds like they have beefed up the Tranny for the F-450 at least with the new 08

Trap

ct0218
11-07-2006, 03:06 PM
Looks like it got pretty hot. What a shame.

kognito
11-07-2006, 08:04 PM
I thought the pictures would look like my neighbor's Ford Expidition fire, but his was tied to that steering wheel cruise control problem Ford has been having. Doesn't look like your fire started in the steering column.

tdharley
11-07-2006, 08:11 PM
No, they said it started it started in the dashboard.

When I pressed the arson detective for a more specific location he said, jokingly, "What are CSI" & "No we are not going to take it back and look for "trace"".

My tax $$$$$$ hard at work

phranc
11-07-2006, 08:58 PM
Whew !! real devastation.. At least you'll have time to recover before spring camping season..
Say....Where were you in Lake George? Looks like a nice campground..Do you ever go to "Oscars Meat Mkt" in Warrensburg ?

nhunter
11-07-2006, 10:39 PM
Is there any reports on the web about Fords starting on fire as this is the first I have ever heard of it. It's a shame to see a burnt King Ranch. :( I don't think you will find a nicer interior in any pickup

tdharley
11-08-2006, 07:13 AM
There is some recalls on the Ford line, not the King Ranch or any trucks for that matter. As a matter of fact thats what held up my claim. The adjuster need to check that out.

We were at Lake George resort campground, had a excellent weekend. The leaves were turning that week & there was all kinds of fall festivales going on.

Oscar's is always on the list. Love the cheese curds & smoked meats. We go up there a couple of times a year to a dude ranch in Warrensburg & to camp.

cramor
11-20-2006, 07:14 PM
sorry about your truck, hope all works out for you. in reguards to a fire under the dash- ford has sent recalls out on certain years and models for faulty wiring i believe on the cruise control. i had a 99 f150 that was in the recall and thought my 2000 f350 7.3 was not but just found out it is. i have misplaced the leter and am now trying to find it.

nhunter
11-21-2006, 09:30 AM
I've had a 99, 01, 02, 04, 06 F-350 with diesels and never got a letter. Strange.

tdharley
11-21-2006, 04:30 PM
Luckily I had the truck in for service a few weeks ago and they caught up on 3 recall or visual inspections

Everything did work out I picked my new truck up last week.

Big Horn 06
12-31-2006, 12:20 AM
Thr problem with the Dodge trans is the tq convertor. The tollerance is soo sloppy, it's pathetic. Something like 65% efficient I read. Just change that and all is good. I can't wait until I get rid of mine. Go for a Goerend one or something of similar quality with a lifetime guarantee. I know for '07 Dodge is putting a 6 speed auto made by Aisin trans (Japanese hd trans maker) I drove an Allison (friend's '05 DM) and my '06 Dodge. The rpm difference isn't that much, but imo, the Dodge has more raw torque and better mpg. Mine feels stronger and my friend tells me he has a hard time getting more than 14 mpg empty. My current trailer is a 25' weighing in at 6000lbs, but I've never got LESS than 12 mpg towing it, with a best of 14 in tow. But, my perfect truck would be Dodge style, Cummins power, GM comfy seats, Allison trans (ain't driven the '07 Dodge 6 spd yet) My Dad is having too many problems with his '03 F-250, bonafide Ford guy, but he's having thoughts after going for a ride in my Dodge, lol!:cool:

Loco
12-31-2006, 08:51 AM
Sorry to hear about the truck. We have a 2006 Power stroke 4:30 rear F-350 DRW 4x4 four door loaded with everything. It is my wifes truck and she loves it, its her baby. It pulls our Cylcone like there no tomorrow. We are pushing the limits on it as for weight goes. But I put it up to a friends Chevy over the summer going up Mount Eagle Tenn. We won! The Chevy just did not have it on that Mountain. We were at 24000 lbs that day total weight and getting 10 MPG @ 70mph. But I would not buy the new 6.4 till they get the bugs out. I find me a 2006 some where. So far we have 17 K on it no troubles. Knock on wood.
Good luck
Loco