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Bruce11
01-30-2012, 08:55 PM
1.30.12

Hello All,
We are looking to upgrade from our north trial 31 qbs. We purchased a 2011 Ford F250 Crewcab lariat diesel 4x4. What is the amount of king pin weight allowed for this truck? We are looking at big horn 5ers.
The owners manuel references pay load which includes amount of weight on front and rear axle. A sticker on the door states 2000lbs occupants and cargo. The Internet suggest weighing the truck and rear axle on scales and subtract from gvwr. Gvwr is 10000. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

krhyde
01-30-2012, 10:10 PM
Look here for information about Ford towing capacities: http://www.ford.com/towingguides/ Ken

ncc1701e
01-30-2012, 11:56 PM
1.30.12

Hello All,
We are looking to upgrade from our north trial 31 qbs. We purchased a 2011 Ford F250 Crewcab lariat diesel 4x4. What is the amount of king pin weight allowed for this truck? We are looking at big horn 5ers.
The owners manuel references pay load which includes amount of weight on front and rear axle. A sticker on the door states 2000lbs occupants and cargo. The Internet suggest weighing the truck and rear axle on scales and subtract from gvwr. Gvwr is 10000. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Maybe this little Excel sheet will help you with your calculations.

jimtoo
01-31-2012, 01:03 AM
1.30.12

Hello All,
We are looking to upgrade from our north trial 31 qbs. We purchased a 2011 Ford F250 Crewcab lariat diesel 4x4. What is the amount of king pin weight allowed for this truck? We are looking at big horn 5ers.
The owners manuel references pay load which includes amount of weight on front and rear axle. A sticker on the door states 2000lbs occupants and cargo. The Internet suggest weighing the truck and rear axle on scales and subtract from gvwr. Gvwr is 10000. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Hi Bruce11,

Welcome to the Heartland Owners Forum and family. We have a lot of great people here with lots of information and all willing to share when needed.

Another good site for weight calculations is this one (http://fifthwheelst.com/). It is provided by one of our Heartland family members DW_Gray. Very easy to work with.

Jim M

branson4020
01-31-2012, 01:31 AM
You probably don't want to here this, but, the door sticker is the number. Pin weight is "cargo."

hoefler
01-31-2012, 07:53 AM
Use 20-25% of the gross weight of the trailer for the pin weight as a rule of thumb to get you close. There is no substitution for the scale.

MTPockets
01-31-2012, 08:44 AM
The door sticker Cargo label "Includes" pin weight. 2000 lbs, - 2 people - 5th wheel hitch - cargo = pin weight maximum.

Bruce11
01-31-2012, 07:13 PM
Thanks for all the ideas all! The calculators were very helpful. The dealership I purchased the F250 from finally responded and reported the truck is good for 2460lbs minus the weight of passengers, cargo and hitch. Sounds about right since rear axle gross is 6100. Before any purchase I will head to the scales and double check. Big Horn is over limits and we will need to look for a lighter rig. Thanks again! Bruce

TXBobcat
01-31-2012, 11:38 PM
Here is another Ford website I like for towing guide for ford trucks.

Towing Guide home page (https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/default.asp)

Towing Guide Page for 2011 Pickups

(https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2011/2011_default.asp)Towing Guide for 2011 Pickups (https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2011/F-250,250,450%20SD%20Pickups.pdf) This is the PDF

This web site covers Pickups Towing Guides for the last 10 years. You can get just a page or the entire towing guide.

BC

mmomega
02-05-2012, 08:28 PM
The weight you don't want to exceed is the rear axle weight rating which is 6,200 lbs. Go weight the truck fully loaded with fuel, your Hitch and see how much weight is on your rear axle at that point. Subtract that from 6,200 and it'll give you a good idea of what type of pin weight you can be comfortable with.

Bruce11
11-11-2012, 10:57 PM
Way over due, but we purchased 2012 Sundance 3200. Pin weight 1800. Calculated pin, occupants, hitch, luggage & we are good. Double checked at cat scale fully loaded plus mother in law, her personal chest, Lol, just very heavy and big suitcase & we were 5800 on rear axle (several hundred below max). We had some sag, but nothing crazy/dangerous. F350 would handle heavy load, but don't want to give up smooth unladen ride. Truck is a daily driver & family likes road trips in truck verse the car. Will get air bags if next 5er has higher pin weight, but pretty happy w set up now. Longest trip for 2012, 3 weeks, 3000 miles up north. Shortest 3 days, 10 miles, awesome is what they all have in common!