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kakampers
07-25-2012, 12:25 PM
Any of us with older units really tend to envy all the bright, new and shiny Heartlands we see...well got tired of the envy thing and decided to do something about it!

Our '08 Bighorn, built in July '07, was starting to show her age, mainly due to being out in the scorching sun for more than five years....almost exclusively in the southern states. She had really lost her luster, especially on the caps, and the off-door side, which got the most direct sun all winter in the RGV...WELL...look at her now!! We spent three days using a process that stripped everything off, all wax, etc. and then put four coats of Red Max Pro, an acrylic high-shine floor finish...we are absolutely amazed at the results!!

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Look at how she shines as pretty as that brand new Redwood she's next to! Her graphics look brand new, I can see my reflection even in the cap and all the blotchy, patchy looking areas from years of waxing are smooth and shiny again! And this is after towing her over a 1,000 miles and she really needs a bath. The best part is, to keep her looking this good, just have to give her a regular good washing, let her dry completely and add another coat of RMP once or twice a year. This stuff does NOT yellow or build up...really keeps her looking good...the prep work however as a REAL JOB!! But that's done now...

Did months of research on this process, saw many, many like results before jumping in and giving it a try...so glad we did!!

TravelTiger
07-25-2012, 12:38 PM
Wow, does look like new! Great job!

Can you give us a play-by-play of the prep-work? Was it done by hand, or use an orbital waxer? How many people and hours did it take? Did you have to be out of direct sun during the process?

Would love this finish on our rig!!

Erika

jbeletti
07-25-2012, 12:45 PM
Wow Kathy - your coach looks amazing!

readytohitheroad
07-25-2012, 12:45 PM
any "before" pictures?

TandT
07-25-2012, 12:47 PM
Wow, it looks great!

Floor wax, who would have thunk it? Trace

kakampers
07-25-2012, 01:23 PM
Wow, does look like new! Great job!

Can you give us a play-by-play of the prep-work? Was it done by hand, or use an orbital waxer? How many people and hours did it take? Did you have to be out of direct sun during the process?

Would love this finish on our rig!!



Erika

Erika...here is a link to the complete instructions on how to do this restoration. Believe me when I say, the prep work is the MOST important part!! It took two of us about 8 hours a day for three days...we're no spring chickens so we took our time. If at all possible do in the shade...we kinda followed the sun around the rig, especially when applying the RMP, it dries very quickly. This is all by hand, there is no using a sander involved...probably the most work was the Bar Keepers Friend application which removes the marks and streaks...we used a 3M fine white scubbie...and remember...RINSE, RINSE AND RINSE AGAIN!! Not sure if you rig is Filon or High Gloss Gelcoat to begin with, if it is Filon you results may not be as dramatic...but trust me it will make it look great!!

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/25818736.cfm

RCF
07-25-2012, 01:38 PM
Wow! I wonder if it would be a good idea to do on a new one . . . hmmmm

kakampers
07-25-2012, 01:44 PM
any "before" pictures?

The first pic is from several months ago before we left the RGV. She still had some shine, but she was really starting to look worn out. The second pic is from just before Gillette...I spent an entire day Dri Wash N Guarding the rig...it's clean but the rear cap is still dull and listless...

Check out the rear cap from today...even with road grime all over it, you can see the reflection of the ladder and all the shine around the tail lights, etc. The last pic is from today of the door side...I'm still amazed...:):)

kakampers
07-25-2012, 01:47 PM
Wow! I wonder if it would be a good idea to do on a new one . . . hmmmm

If you have full body paint, or your gelcoat still takes wax well...I'd say NO!! We had gotten to the point that waxing just didn't really do anything and the finish was looking real "splotchy"...removing the wax and finish was our only real option. Even tried compounding it last year...looked OK, but nothing like this!!!

kakampers
07-25-2012, 01:59 PM
Wow, it looks great!

Floor wax, who would have thunk it? Trace

I know...that's why it took us so long to research it!! We did it at a friends place, Pulltab here on the forum. He thought we were crazy when we told him what we were about to do...after it was done, he admitted he was really impressed...and trust me, Tab's not easily impressed!!

navyAZ1
07-25-2012, 03:35 PM
I've been thinking about this ever since I met a guy here in GA that restores old campers and he told me about this. He had restored an old "Casita" it looks like a fiberglass bubble (little bitty travel trailer), but that thing looked like new. I do think I'll wait until it cools off a little though, it's still ini the upper 90's each day here in N. GA every day. Thanks for your info and the link to the instructions.

Ron

MTPockets
07-25-2012, 04:24 PM
Wow! I wonder if it would be a good idea to do on a new one . . . hmmmm

I've had the same thought but have come to the conclusion that a good wax job a couple times a year on a new unit should keep it good for many years. Sounds like this stuff is great for a restoration though. The trick is the regular re-waxing maintenance.

TandT
07-26-2012, 11:30 AM
Rejex is working well for us right now. We apply it about every 6 months.

If our finish ever goes south, I will look into this process. Trace

kakampers
07-26-2012, 01:46 PM
I've had the same thought but have come to the conclusion that a good wax job a couple times a year on a new unit should keep it good for many years. Sounds like this stuff is great for a restoration though. The trick is the regular re-waxing maintenance.


Trust me, all the wax in the world can't protect against UV with fibreglass...been there, done that. Eventually it breaks down and starts chalking. Outside of having it painted...this is the perfect solution!

TXBobcat
11-27-2012, 05:43 PM
I read a couple of threads about Red Max Pro #3. I tried to search for Red, Red Max, and Red Max Pro but the search engine will not accept it.

I had to search the internet to find it and a connection to the Heartland forum. Any way here is my question.

I can not find Red Max Pro 3 at Lowes but they do have "Zep Commercial Wet Look Floor Finish (http://www.lowes.com/pd_369986-531-ZUWTFF128_0__?productId=3621332&Ntt=zep&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dzep&facetInfo=)" . I think this the same thing as Red Max Pro and/or the Zep Wet Look Floor Finish (Step 3) indicated at HOme Depot.

Called Zep and the person I taked to really had no idea what I was asking and he was suppose to be in sales.

BC


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kakampers
11-27-2012, 05:56 PM
Yep...Zep is the same product...

TXBobcat
11-27-2012, 06:47 PM
Thanks.. Do you know if there is a temperature problem. Probably do it this weekend. It will be in the 60's until Friday then in the 70's for te weekend...

BC

olcoon
11-27-2012, 07:01 PM
Ken & Kathy, looks like all your hard work was worth it!

TXBobcat
11-27-2012, 07:09 PM
What?? You mean you get a kickback from Zep?? Wow what a business head...


LOL


BC

kakampers
11-27-2012, 07:13 PM
Temps should be fine....try to work on the shady sides when applying the finish....remember, the prep is the key. Make sure ALL wax and previous finishes are removed before applying the Zep.

TandT
11-27-2012, 07:20 PM
Okay, inquiring minds would like to know. Was this just to spiff it up to sell or trade?

I can't help but notice it looks as if you have ordered a LM. (after all that work)

I was hoping to get some feedback on how this finish holds up after it's been on there awhile. Trace

kakampers
11-27-2012, 08:04 PM
Actually, had no idea we would be able to buy a Landmark....did the refinish job really thinking we would keep the Bighorn...our situation changed and we went for the upgrade.

As for how it holds up, we researched the process a long time. There is a huge thread on RV.net and quite a few have had this on for several years, and it has held up great. Once it's on, you only need to wash it with mild detergent (dawn) and then apply a new coat or two...

2psnapod2
11-27-2012, 08:05 PM
Okay, inquiring minds would like to know. Was this just to spiff it up to sell or trade?

I can't help but notice it looks as if you have ordered a LM. (after all that work)

I was thinking the same thing.

TandT
12-04-2012, 08:42 PM
TXBobcat here is your thread

2psnapod2
12-04-2012, 09:00 PM
I remember that someone on here used a product to clean their roof and got it at Dollar General or some place like that. Anyone remember who it was or what product it was?

jayc
12-04-2012, 09:16 PM
Michael it might have been something called Awesome that I have used when the bugs on the front cap get really bad. Then I follow it with Rejex to make the trailer shine. I've never used anything but Dawn on the roof.

Ray LeTourneau
12-05-2012, 08:13 AM
I remember that someone on here used a product to clean their roof and got it at Dollar General or some place like that. Anyone remember who it was or what product it was?
We've used Dollar General's version of Comet to clean our roof. Seems to do a good job and cheaper than the real thing.

jmgratz
12-05-2012, 08:57 AM
Keep in mind many cleaners used on the roof will leave marks on the sides of the unit when the rinse water runs off of the roof and down the sides. There are some such as Dawn that will remove the wax as well so be prepared to wash the entire rig following the roof cleaning. You may (probably will) have to rewax as well.

mobilcastle
12-05-2012, 09:06 AM
You did a super job on your rig! I plan to do the same thing-I am not looking forward to the cleaning part. Did you use TSP to wash off the Bar Keeper or Dawn? Thanks for the info.
Steve

jmgratz
12-05-2012, 09:10 AM
You did a super job on your rig! I plan to do the same thing-I am not looking forward to the cleaning part. Did you use TSP to wash off the Bar Keeper or Dawn? Thanks for the info.
Steve

We used the TSP to wash off the Dawn before applying.

mobilcastle
12-05-2012, 09:11 AM
Dawn is an excellent roof cleaner. I have used it several times on my previous rig.

kakampers
12-05-2012, 09:59 AM
You did a super job on your rig! I plan to do the same thing-I am not looking forward to the cleaning part. Did you use TSP to wash off the Bar Keeper or Dawn? Thanks for the info.
Steve

TSP is used after the Bars Keeper and before washing with Dawn....make sure to rinse everything profusely!! Remember, after applying Red Max Pro (Zep)...NEVER wax...will ruin the finish. If it dulls, simply wash with Dawn, rinse and apply another coat or two of RMP or Zep.