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mrcomer
07-29-2012, 07:55 PM
For a handgun do you like or dislike laser sight?

cookie
07-29-2012, 08:04 PM
A lazer sight is good if you really want to find out how unsteady your aim is.
Although my Bodyguard has a lazer, I prefer iron sights.

Peace
Dave

jbeletti
07-29-2012, 08:22 PM
Some would say that in a defensive situation, in the dark, that a laser sight can easily be tracked right back to you. They would continue to say that a rail-mounted Surefire light may be a better bet, again, in the dark, as the light helps you see the offender and will tend to blind them at the same time.

I do not speak from experience - only what a wise man once told me.

JohnDar
07-29-2012, 09:39 PM
I have one on my Ruger LCP because the iron sights are next to useless in low light, especially with needing trifocals. I'm definitely considering adding lasers to my Keltec P-11 and Colt Govt. Model 70 although their sights are better. For the 12 ga. with short barrel, not so much.

Hastey
07-29-2012, 09:49 PM
I had Crimson Trace grips on my service side arm and have been on the combat range with it several times as well as kicking in doors in the desert. I always qualified better off of Iron sights. The laser is a great low light aiming tool but not much use to me on the fly. On a assault rifle is a different story.

Nathan
07-29-2012, 09:50 PM
Lasers are good in theory. I have one on my Body guard 380. My duty weapon is a Glock 22. Most fire arms confrontations take place in less than 10 feet and last less than 3 seconds. If your messing around with a laser you might as well kiss your keister goodbye. JMHO

wesley1963
07-29-2012, 10:07 PM
DW's bodyguard has the laser which she loves. I'll stick with the judge. BTW, if you are looking to get one with a laser I would definitely recommend the bodyguard since S&W has a lifetime guarantee on the gun. Our laser went out after about 6 months and it was replaced free of charge.

JohnDar
07-29-2012, 10:08 PM
Lasers are good in theory. I have one on my Body guard 380. My duty weapon is a Glock 22. Most fire arms confrontations take place in less than 10 feet and last less than 3 seconds. If your messing around with a laser you might as well kiss your keister goodbye. JMHO

You're right in a sense, but if awakened from sleep and you have only enough time to grab your weapon or your glasses, I'd really like the weapon to have a grip activated laser (like the Crimson Trace) on it. Especially if I have to shoot from the hip, so to speak. I can see the red dot in the dark without my glasses on.

jcarnevale
07-29-2012, 10:15 PM
Dislike lasers on pistols. Most personal defense scenarios are close quarters combat. Your front site or laser will not be picked up, that is why it is necessary to train both strong hand and support hand for center mass point of impact. Muscle memory training from holster or concealment is critical for a good grouping.

mrcomer
07-30-2012, 06:00 AM
Lots of valid points. Thank you all for your input and please keep the wisdom coming. I still haven't decided either way and may just hold off for a while.

Ray LeTourneau
07-30-2012, 07:37 AM
I think maybe a million candlepower spotlight! Blind the bugger, then shoot...

mrcomer
07-30-2012, 07:42 AM
I think maybe a million candlepower spotlight! Blind the bugger, then shoot...

Like!

jmgratz
07-30-2012, 08:09 AM
In a real world situation the laser sights will be useless in rapid fire combat situation. Why do the majority of Police Officers not have them? Because the time it takes to use them could cause a life-threatening hesitation. Practuce, practice, and more practice in 'snap shooting' would be a better answer.IMHO

jcarnevale
07-30-2012, 09:20 AM
Like!

Also like.

The P2X Fury (http://www.surefire.com/illumination/flashlights/p2x-fury-dual-output.html) by Surefire. Excellent tactical tool.

porthole
07-30-2012, 10:39 AM
Mark - Laser's are like coffee or tea.
I have the S&W Bodyguard which comes with a Laser, works good. But I find in the daytime or good lighting I can easily shoot better groups quicker with the sights. The little 380 is very good "point and shoot", easy to control pocket pistol.

In the bedroom - middle of the night , I think the laser would be the preferred choice.

Either way, you of course have to practice with the never fail iron sights and if you go for a Laser, stick with name brands and expect to pay similar prices. All in one light laser etc on eBay for 30 bucks will be worthless when you really need it.

That said, I only have one weapon laser, but he next item I am looking at is the S&W Gov with the factory installed Crimson Trace laser. That will be the RV piece.

The PX Fury - still waiting for the pricing to come down, but that would probably cause more short term pain then a 9mm!

Hastey
07-30-2012, 11:45 AM
I think maybe a million candlepower spotlight! Blind the bugger, then shoot...

It works for me deer hunting :cool:

jcarnevale
07-30-2012, 11:50 AM
It works for me deer hunting :cool:

Nice, LOL......

creeper
09-11-2012, 01:29 AM
In a real world "situation".

Lasers= useless, any various glow in the dark dots= useless, iron sights=useless. Proper practice of combat shooting and a 40,000 watt mag light is all I really need.

When I practice I never use a sight of any kind, because in a combat fight there is no aiming of sights and will be over in a few seconds. If you have time to aim a sight then you should be worried about getting sued or arrested as the threat is not imminent.

Many people I've taught have become better paper shooters after first learning how to combat shoot.

MdMike
09-23-2012, 02:37 PM
No laser... Strictly Night Sights!

Tombstonejim
09-23-2012, 07:32 PM
The laser will just show how bad your nerves are and how bad you have the shakes. You will spend more time trying to hold it steady than if you just point and shoot.

ZNK
09-23-2012, 08:04 PM
Please tell us why you are considering a laser? For target practice? For personal protection? Lasers are very good when they are military grade, however it doesn't make much sense to have one on a hand gun. A hand gun is a pull and shoot weapon, typically for close quarters and not designed to aim over distances. A laser is better on a rifle.

mattpopp
10-26-2012, 01:34 AM
I have a MARS Reflex (Military Grade) mounted on my Beowulf .50. Though if I had a good set of Night Googles it would be much cooler to use, especially hog hunting. Not only does it project a laser you are able see the entire beam and what it projects it on with night vision. Naked eye you only see the red dot in the lens. Nice Optics but I dont use it to the fullest by no means

rumaco
12-08-2012, 11:40 PM
Night sights line the gun up, lasers line the target up.......?????????????????????????

TomSt
12-10-2012, 08:35 PM
Try looking at the Streamlight TLR 4 for about $100 you get tactical light and laser. Single press of trigger finger activates either or. Have one on the Springfield XD and love it. Years of pistol shooting does help hold it steady.

Borntowade
12-11-2012, 01:06 AM
I have to ask. What is the range you are planning to use your pistol at? If is more than 15 yards I question you need to use it at all. If you do need to use it and assuming you are in the dark, tell me what this bright coherent beam of red light looks like from its source. If you are pointing this weapon at your intended target you are giving him/her and any accomplice a direct line of sight to you. I can shoot well enough at 15 yards and would rather not give them a clearer target. I use my iron sights and can usually hit where I aim.

mrcomer
12-11-2012, 06:40 AM
Well from the time I started this thread till now I have talked myself out of getting a laser and will be looking for tactical light instead. It seems to be the more practical approach for dealing with a possible intruder during the night.

Thank you all for your input,
Mark

DJH
12-11-2012, 12:40 PM
Well from the time I started this thread till now I have talked myself out of getting a laser and will be looking for tactical light instead. It seems to be the more practical approach for dealing with a possible intruder during the night.

Thank you all for your input,
Mark

Will you can shoot around a corner with out being around the corner yourself!! My wife and I have them on our Glock's and would not be with out them! We practice shooting around corners without standing in the line of fire. And you would be surprised how many criminals will probably give up with a FLASHING red dot on their chest.

Lynn1130
12-11-2012, 06:55 PM
I had to laugh when I read an earlier post in this thread that mentioned being tracked back by the laser. It brought to mind an old military axiom "tracers work both ways".