Eternabond® RV leak repair tape

jcarnevale

Well-known member
So I'm at the dealership doing some work on my camper and low and behold there is a Heartland Sundance right next to my rig with water damage (see picture).
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This got me to thinking maybe I should do some preventative maintenance. So I picked up a role of Eternabond®, RV leak repair tape, watched the video and follow the directions and this is how it came out: Great stuff, hope it works...

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My question is, what do you think the best way to apply this to the rear roof channel end cap (see picture). I'm thinking some Double sided sealant tape that would fit down inside the channel to build it up to the top of the channel, then use the Eternabond tape over it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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http://www.eternabond.com/RV-Leak-Repair-Products-s/22.htm
 

TandT

Founding Utah Chapter Leaders-Retired
I had the same idea as you. Cover my front cap roof seam on a prevent basis. I have used Eternabond for small tears and it is great.

I was advised by a very reputable independant RV shop in Chino, Ca. not to use Eternabond on a preventative basis. His advice was to only use it as as needed, for repairs.

His logic; He stated after working in the business for 20 something years, he has found Eternabond although a great product for repairs, will not last as long as your roof itself.

He said it will begin to look ragged before your roof and present problems of its own.

Of course if a person doesn't plan to keep their rig long term, I guess it's not an issue. Trace
 

jnbhobe

Well-known member
Double sided tape or maybe some caulking tape like was used under truck caps years ago would fill the gap.
 

Ray LeTourneau

Senior Member - Past Moderator
You could use the plastic strip that's supposed to go in there normally to fill the void. Otherwise, I'd consider using Dicor self leveling sealant to fill the void. Wait a few days till it sets up then go over it with the Eternabond. It's gonna look a little funky on the back wall though because of the crown of the roof.
 

jcarnevale

Well-known member
His logic; He stated after working in the business for 20 something years, he has found Eternabond although a great product for repairs, will not last as long as your roof itself.

How long are these rubber roofs suppose to last? I feel confident that I will not have to be concerned or have to chalk that seam for a long time.... I also think that the end caps on these rolling box cars are the weakest link, see photo above. This is a Sundance, made out of wood!.....not a Landmark..... "hope it works..." I'll drop you a line when the tape wears out :)
 

jcarnevale

Well-known member
You could use the plastic strip that's supposed to go in there normally to fill the void. Otherwise, I'd consider using Dicor self leveling sealant to fill the void. Wait a few days till it sets up then go over it with the Eternabond. It's gonna look a little funky on the back wall though because of the crown of the roof.

Ray, I forgot there was supposed to be a plastic strip in that channel. I'm not sure if there was one installed from the factory, or maybe it's on the highway someplace. I'll have to read up on the double-sided tape idea, it would take a couple layers to build it up inside the channel. I think the lap sealant idea may work better. Let it set up for a couple of days and then put the tape over it but stop at the trailing edge of the channel and not go over the back. I think you're right, that would definitely look a little funky. I think I will only use half the width of the tape also, as 6 inches is a little overkill.

Thanks for the replies.
 

codycarver

Founding Wyoming Chapter Leader-retired
How long are these rubber roofs suppose to last? I feel confident that I will not have to be concerned or have to chalk that seam for a long time.... I also think that the end caps on these rolling box cars are the weakest link, see photo above. This is a Sundance.....not a Landmark..... "hope it works..." I'll drop you a line when the tape wears out :)

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TandT

Founding Utah Chapter Leaders-Retired
jcarnevale,

Okay, thanks. Just passing along information. :)

They normally work on million dollar motorhomes, so I value his opinion. Trace
 
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jcarnevale

Well-known member
Dave, Thanks for the reply(large)reply. I've read all the Dicor lit. and agree with it. I believe that they will last 10-12 years (I don't know about 20) My roof is over 2 years old, I wash it with a little dish soap and water 3-4 times a year (I wont even use the products Dicor try's to push on to consumers). I am not worried about the rubber, it's a good roof no doubt. It's the holes they put in it to connect the end caps and the chalking that fails due to the box moving around that concerns me.
 
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