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cdbMidland
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Could one of you Dodge experts out there please tell me how I can get information about dual wheel drive 3500 CDT trucks? I've visited Dodge.com and even the towing guide within the site, but I see no reference to DRWs.

Is this a factory option, or is this an add-on?

jayc
07-10-2005, 07:39 PM
Hey Chuck and Sandra,


You might get the information you desire by going to the http://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/
This is a Dodge users forum, and should address your concerns.

Good luck.

cdbMidland
07-10-2005, 10:48 PM
Thanks, Jayc. I used the link, but I see that you have to shell out $35 in order to view some topics or to post a reply to anything. Not sure I want to do that.

I went back to Dodge.com and tried to configure a DRW model, but I can't figure out how to do that.

Besides, I would want to go with the Mega-Cab 2006 model if I had to change trucks. 2006 trucks are not available as yet on the build model (even though it is too late to build a 2005).

davebennington
07-11-2005, 07:43 AM
Hi

You might try Dieselram.com they have alot of info on the Dodge truck. I do not think the Dodge Maga-ram 2006 truck would make a good tow vehicle because it has a short bed and while the cab area is bigger the towing capabilites is less and I don't think it is available in a dually. What are you trying to find out about the Dodge dually? I have a 2006 on order that is due in any day now.

dave

jbeletti
07-11-2005, 09:15 AM
Hi Chuck,

I do not believe the MegaCab comes with a DRW option either.

As for DRW on current production models, I agree, it is confusing on the Dodge website. When I first configured my truck for price comparing, I got it wrong and had it as SRW and didn't even realize it.

But it is possible to do. I have attached images of the factory price sheet as well as the build sheet (window sticker) for reference. Depending on your area, you can probably order a truck below invoice if you shop well. I paid FWP (Factory WholeSale Price) minus the Dealer HB (hold back). I felt the dealer was nuts but they wanted the business and I was happier buying local than shipping one up to Chicago from a St. Louis dealer.

Best of luck to you.

Jim

cdbMidland
07-11-2005, 10:32 AM
Thanks, Dave & Jim

Dave, I signed up for the website you mentioned and put a post into it.

Jim, thanks for your information. The window sticker does not mention either the bed size or the number of rear wheels - the build sheet did show DRW, but not bed length.

I played around with the website some more and found out that if I check 6.25' for the bed, I automatically get a SRW and for the 8' I automatically get a DRW - . Interesting enough was that I tried to build the same vehicle as DRW and as SRW that the DRW was only $112 more for basically the same options (SLT version).

I was amazed that the GVWR stayed the same at 9,900# for the DRW and the towing capacity remained the same at 16,350# for both. It seems that going to the DRW does not gain anything for me weight-wise. I was hoping to pick up some more weight on my hitch as the 3655RD empty is just under my scale rating for the truck's GVRW.

Am I missing something?????

davebennington
07-11-2005, 11:57 AM
Chuck

I think the biggest difference between the DRW option and SRW is stability, I also think there is a difference in the load carrying, however not 100% sure of this.

Dave

cdbMidland
07-11-2005, 12:57 PM
Dave, this is what is so mysterious to me. According to Dodge.com, the payload of the SRW is higher than the DWR (3,410 vs 3,290).

From the posts that I've seen, stability is greater in the DRW and probably stopping is also greater if all six wheels have rotors on them.

davebennington
07-11-2005, 08:12 PM
Chuck,

The difference between the two is the weight carrying ability. The big three all play the weight game when it comes down to it. They all want bragging rights as to can haul the most, reguardless of any safety factor. Bottom line they just want you money. You don't realy think that one is that much better than the other do you? Just as long as you buy the truck and make it last until the warrenty runs out or the newer model catchs you eye that is the only thing that matters to them.

Dave:)

phranc
07-12-2005, 09:10 AM
Gotta agree with you ,the dodge site is somewhat confusing . Looks as if the dually is standard in a SLT. The diesel option ,quad cab, 4x4 etc bumps the price up a bit. I have a 2004.5 and on my model year I got a credit for having the single rear wheel option .2005 credit is 1234.50..I have the quad cab,long bed, and have more than enough room and is easy to get in a nd out of. The load flat floor (option in 2004.5) and premium cloth seats were a good option for little money . Premium seats have the electric drivers seat. I diesel engine is so heavy that 4x4 is a good choice in my locale . My last ford diesel (powerstroke ) had only 2 wheel drive and was a real PITA in wet grass with camper or not . and winter snow sucked for traction. I hooked up to a Bighorn 3500RL the other day and I was only one inch high at the nose Not a problem as I can lower truck (neat trick with spring spacers ) or lower hitch one hole. 3600RL on order..
When pricing my build out last year I think I used KBB.com or perhaps Edmunds.com ..
Truck has been most satisfactory for us with NO problems and pulls present Jayco (35') like a rocket. We also use the truck as a second car and prefer to drive it instead of wifes jeep liberty when taking passengers on all day trips . More confortable .I can put 2 adults in back seat and a baby seat also..
Let us know how you make out..

phranc
07-12-2005, 09:26 AM
payload on dually is 12,200 ,,srw is 9,900. gross at 23,000 remains the same for both..
Use this link and then click on 'dodge towing guide'

http://www.dodge.com/commercial/ram_2500_3500/index.html?context=built_for_you-construction&type=left

cdbMidland
07-12-2005, 06:27 PM
phranc

Thanks for the last two posts, including the link. I had not gone to the commercial section.

From what Scott Tuttle told me, the weights of the 3600RL and the 3655RD are basically the same, so the only difference between your truck and mine is bed length and axle ratio (mine is a 3.73) as we are both at a GVWR of 9,900#.

I guess the only thing that I can do is hitch up and see how the truck handles. I really do not want the long bed dually since I can't garage it and I'm right in the rust belt here in Michigan.

Chuck

phranc
07-13-2005, 05:08 PM
Chuck,,I have same problen with garage/ driveway. Can't park in garage anyway, too full of 'stuff ( jeeps ,lawn mower etc.). I always thought if the srw wouldn't handle the RV because of weight or sway I would change to the Rickson Wheels . They are 19.5 instead of the 17 that are on truck at present. And load range 'J ' or 'K ' ..
see them here http://www.ricksontruck.com/
And BTW ,I have the 4.10 rears and 6 sp manual. Once I row through the gears and am at highway speed I rarely have to touch tranny. Last year we went from our home in central NY to Knoxville and then to Nashville and only had to down shift to buy fuel or stop for the night .. Present Jayco weighs 10400 almost empty and the on order Bighorn will weigh 2000# more . Using same trip as an example I may have to drop one gear on the steepest hills . Nothing to worry about..

cdbMidland
07-13-2005, 10:22 PM
phrancThanks for the post and the link.

Chuck

Wolffpack13
08-20-2005, 02:36 PM
Would like to know what to expect hauling a Heatland Golden Gate with full-time package. Any clues?:rolleyes:

jbeletti
08-20-2005, 04:59 PM
Wolffpack13,

I get 10 MPG (+/- .5) when towing my Mt. Rushmore. My guess is that you'll be a little heavier than me, maybe ~500# max. (you with dual-panes and 2 A/Cs). Doubt you'll see much difference in fuel economy. I've pulled with a lot of fresh water and a bit in the black/gray tanks and saw no change. My experience anyway. Others will chime in.

Jim

Cheryl
08-22-2005, 05:21 PM
We averaged 10.8 on our trip - West Virginia to Myrtle Beach to Kentucky, to Colorado and then home again. Lots of mountains, the truck pulled the Golden Gate up them at 70mph in 5th gear with ease.

Tom of Ypsi
08-22-2005, 06:45 PM
Just got back from a trip to Dayton, Oh and averaged 10.8 mpg doing 63 mph. On a trip to Petoskey, Mi I averaged 11.3 mpg doing 63 mph. Both trips were from home, Ypsilanti, Mi, just outside of Ann Arbor, Mi. More than satisfied with the truck:D

phranc
08-23-2005, 10:43 AM
Witha gross of 21720 # we get between 10.5 and 11.5 depending upon speed and terrain... 6 sp manual trans and 4.10 gears

Wolffpack13
09-01-2005, 10:22 AM
Another ??
Do you recommend 2WD or 4WD? Is there a difference in gas mileage, etc?None

nemo45
09-02-2005, 09:12 AM
We recently made a trip to Kenosha WI and back, a total of 1660 miles. We averaged 10.7 mpg for the trip. The lowest fuel economy per tank was 9.7 and the highest was 11.7. The first tank was the lowest and we were traveling at 65 mpg. After that tank we were in Illinois and had to reduce to 62 mph and thats what we towed at the rest of the trip. Our Open Road 357 RLDS weighs in at 11998 dry and we have a 2005 Dodge Ram 3500, SRW, CTD with 3.73 rear end, 4-speed auto tranny TV. The truck towed the Open Road flawlessly and except for the difference in accelleration you wouldn't even know it was back there. MY wife drove the rig about half of the trip. So I wouldn't worry about towing a rig this size with a SRW. It does just fine. No problems with stability or braking.

cdbMidland
09-02-2005, 10:26 AM
I went with 2WD to save some weight on the GVRW. I believe that mileage will also drop with 4WD. That being said, however, I did have to get a tow from a soft grassy surface while hauling last year's Cameo LXI as all it would do was spin the rear wheels. Still, my next choice would be 2WD, although I would probably opt for DRWs since I am so close to my GVRW and GCWR with my SWR.

jbeletti
09-04-2005, 04:42 PM
We just arrived in Charleston, SC from Chicago. Traveling over 1,100 miles, we averaged 11.4 MPG. Our high average prior to hitting the Appalachians was 11.8 MPG. The RAM took the Landmark through all the climbs very well. I am pleased.

Jim

cdbMidland
07-03-2006, 09:38 AM
Picked up our new Megacab dually on Saturday. It fits in our garage! Fenders on the rear are not the long flares like Jim's is pictured, but rather just over the wheels itself. Getting the hitch installed on Friday and should be hitting the road again soon.

GVRW of the truck is 10,500#.

jbeletti
07-03-2006, 10:11 AM
Congrats Chuck! We need pics...

Jim

cdbMidland
09-12-2006, 02:52 PM
Just was out to the http://www.turbodieselregister.com/ website and apparently the Megacab is no longer offered in the Dodge HD series.:( Sure glad I got mine when I did.:)

They do show GVRWs up to 12,200 in some of the 3500 series available after January 1, 2007 when the new 6.7l Cummins comes out.

kmbusa
08-03-2007, 04:31 PM
I'm sold on the Dodge 3500 Quadcab CTD LB w/6spd auto, but tell me, do I want the 3.73 or 4.10? I'm looking for a good general purpose setup. Truck would be used for TV'ing and daily 20 mile round trip to work is all.

trdeal
08-03-2007, 04:43 PM
I used to own a 2001 f-350 with the 3:73 rear end. Did a good job but was slow on take off when towing. My 2007 Ford has the 4:10 and is much better. Get around 9 mpg towing and around 14 mpg empty.If buying again would go wih the 4:10.

Jimmyt5
08-03-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm sold on the Dodge 3500 Quadcab CTD LB w/6spd auto, but tell me, do I want the 3.73 or 4.10? I'm looking for a good general purpose setup. Truck would be used for TV'ing and daily 20 mile round trip to work is all.

I have this same truck with the 3.73 sb. I had a5.9 with a 410 and with the new 6.7 and 3.73 I can't tell any differance. Go with the 3.73 and you will be happy. JMO

Jim

Blessed
08-08-2007, 10:00 AM
I also have the 3.73 and the trailer weighs 16000# when I am pulling it. I have had absolutely no problems and have never wished I had the 4.10. I talked to the Truck Development Engineer. He told me the only reason they have a higher towing capacity for the 4.10 is because of one test they run. The truck with a trailer attached is at a dead stop on an incline and they have so many seconds to accelerate to a certain speed. To pull the heavier trailer, they need the higher axle ratio.
With towing in the mountains of Kentucky and have never had a problem and would recommend the 3.73.

sidney dreyfus
09-04-2007, 03:37 PM
thinking about installing the B & W companion hitch. My Dodge has an insert bedliner. Do you think drilling the required 4" hole through the bedliner will increase the chance of water getting under the liner and rusting the bed? All opinions are appreciated

Sid Dreyfus

mrcomer
09-04-2007, 04:21 PM
Hey Sid,
When we had our hitch installed we too had a plastic liner. The dealer cut (2) rectangular openings so the rails would be flush with the bed floor. So now we have these (2) openings that definitely will let water in. On the good side we have a tri-fold hard cover that keeps most of the water out when we are not towing. Had I had it to do over I would get a spray-in bedliner.

Hope this helps,

Mark