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EPaulikonis
09-02-2014, 12:14 PM
Been working with Don from TPMS...great service; very responsive!

Wondering if anyone else has had issues with sensors not responding during travel while Don is working with engineering for possible solution(s). I have a Ram 3500 crew cab dually long bed connected to a Landmark Savannah. TPMS antenna is at the farthest and lowest point possible on the TV, right underneath the receiver hitch. I can pick up all 4 trailer tires when connected, but not moving. As soon as I start to travel, I'll see at least one tire stop responding and sometimes there are up to 3 that stop receiving signals. Display will reflect all dashes "- - -" and "000.0" at different times on the display. Seems like it's an antenna issue since I receive signal when stopped. Figure I would see bad data on the display if it was a bad sensor or some type of physical blockage occurring.

Appreciate any recommendations to resolve the data dropout.

Bohemian
09-02-2014, 12:25 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=tpms+repeater&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SKPT_enUS432&gws_rd=ssl

Valor-Don
09-02-2014, 01:53 PM
In reply to EPaulikonis - As we discussed on the phone, please move the antenna to the side of the receiver tube. My senior technician indicated that the antennas are programmed to read at any angle and by mounting horizontal to the bumper and ground, the radio waves should be read stronger from the sensors.

In reply to Bohemian - the Valor system does not require repeaters. Our system is programmed to 433.92 mHz which is the FCC official TPMS frequency. Systems that require a repeater transmit at other frequencies and sometimes encounter inferences.

Garypowell
09-02-2014, 04:16 PM
This happened on one sensor of mine about a month ago when I went full time. Just as we were leaving on the first leg of our trip the back right tire on the rig went into alarm mode. Started to slow down while I looked at readout.....I could tell one sensor dropped out but pulled over anyway.

Checked temp and pressure at tire and all was ok. So turned the unit off and back on and all was well.

It it only happened once so did not contact Don. Most everything we (I mean all of us not just me) is fairly complicated when you think of ALL that is involved getting us down the road....so I don't get overly excited.

Don on has never failed to be there when I really needed him.

Birchwood
09-02-2014, 04:50 PM
I removed my TPMS as it activated often in error .Who needs this stress !!! TPMS is just another sales gimmick and they rarely work properly.

Allen.Hyde
09-02-2014, 05:38 PM
I've been very pleased with valor and the peace of mind that I've got with this system. I've been having the same/ similar problem with my off door rear tire. I'm going to try mounting my antenna on the side of the tube next time I pull, and see if this helps. I was thinking that maybe the limits on the unit were set wrong?


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SilverRhino
09-02-2014, 07:05 PM
I removed my TPMS as it activated often in error .Who needs this stress !!! TPMS is just another sales gimmick and they rarely work properly.

My TST 507 system has warned me of problems on two different occasions that allowed me to pull over into a safe area and take care of a tire issue. Without it, I would have had a blowout that could have caused who knows what type of damage. Not a gimmick, just another method of keeping track of things that could go wrong. I've been using this system for over 4 years and have never had an issue! Never leave without it being hooked up.

pegmikef
09-02-2014, 07:09 PM
The only time I had a problem with a sensor dropping out of comms it turned out to be a prematurely low battery . . . I just replaced all of the batteries and no problems since.

Manzan
09-02-2014, 09:06 PM
Every once in awhile, our 507 drops a sensor at random. Restart the monitor and all is well. First time that happened made this old heart beat a little faster but since everything was normal before it dropped, figured out it was some sort of anomaly. It is time to change the batteries so glad this thread came along!

GOTTOYS
09-02-2014, 10:30 PM
I removed my TPMS as it activated often in error .Who needs this stress !!! TPMS is just another sales gimmick and they rarely work properly. X 2!! I've sent mine in so many times to get it working right and every time it was returned it still wasn't right. It gets pretty frustrating. I've never made a single trip where it worked correctly. Buy a good set of tires, a good tire gauge and take your chances...Don

Valor-Don
09-03-2014, 05:14 AM
This is Don from Valor. I would like to clarify many of the messages received concerning dropped sensors. Manzan referenced the 507 which is the external system provided by TST. I cannot address their issue. However, the original message from EPaulikonis is the Valor system and I am working to solve that issue. Once corrected, I will post the results on the forum. Normally the Valor system does not experience the dropped readings once the system is operational.

wdk450
09-03-2014, 09:48 AM
Sir:
I have the Tire Tracker TPMS system and was curious about your statement that " the Valor system does not require repeaters. Our system is programmed to 433.92 mHz which is the FCC official TPMS frequency. Systems that require a repeater transmit at other frequencies and sometimes encounter inferences." According to this pdf document I found on the net, the Tire Tracker System is also on 433.92 Mhz, and they DO sell a repeater for that system: http://www.tiretraker.com/tt_manual.pdf .



In reply to EPaulikonis - As we discussed on the phone, please move the antenna to the side of the receiver tube. My senior technician indicated that the antennas are programmed to read at any angle and by mounting horizontal to the bumper and ground, the radio waves should be read stronger from the sensors.

In reply to Bohemian - the Valor system does not require repeaters. Our system is programmed to 433.92 mHz which is the FCC official TPMS frequency. Systems that require a repeater transmit at other frequencies and sometimes encounter inferences.

TandT
09-03-2014, 11:49 AM
X 2!! I've sent mine in so many times to get it working right and every time it was returned it still wasn't right. It gets pretty frustrating. I've never made a single trip where it worked correctly. Buy a good set of tires, a good tire gauge and take your chances...Don

My TPMS. No dropped signals. If it doesn't sound right, pull out the tire gauge. Trace

Valor-Don
09-03-2014, 12:11 PM
I apologize, my answer was not complete. The Valor system is 100% programmed to 433.92 mHz. Our antennas and sensors are synced to the FCC frequency. The system we supply to Heartland is the same Heavy Duty quality we offer to the Commercial and Mining industry which is a very harsh environment and are not experiencing the issue as indicated in this thread.

GOTTOYS
09-03-2014, 10:04 PM
My TPMS. No dropped signals. If it doesn't sound right, pull out the tire gauge. Trace I like it. No batteries to change either. I use my big 4 cell Maglight. Works very well...Don

Valor-Don
09-04-2014, 06:30 AM
That may work when the trailer is stopped. However, blow outs occur while you are driving on the road. Thumping the tires with your mag light at 55 MPH is difficult. The safety and cost effectiveness of the monitoring system pays for itself if it saves 1 blowout. According to the National Highway Safety Administraion, 90% of all blowouts are caused by under inflated tires. The mag light is not always calibrated correctly and can result in under inflated tires.
--Don R.

GOTTOYS
09-04-2014, 11:56 AM
That may work when the trailer is stopped. However, blow outs occur while you are driving on the road. Thumping the tires with your mag light at 55 MPH is difficult. The safety and cost effectiveness of the monitoring system pays for itself if it saves 1 blowout. According to the National Highway Safety Administraion, 90% of all blowouts are caused by under inflated tires. The mag light is not always calibrated correctly and can result in under inflated tires.
--Don R.
I've already spent the money for a TPS, then I spent more money several times over to send it in and have it repaired. Never made one trip where it worked properly. Maglight and my tire pressure gauge works every time. Just not when I'm moving. I would rather blow a tire than go through the frustration of trying to depend on something that doesn't work..but that's just me...Don

TandT
09-04-2014, 12:32 PM
I have seen a fair number of posts here where it was stated the user "never got any warning from a TPMS before the tire blew."

I agree that (working correctly) TPMS can warn of a slowly developing problem.

After talking to many people, it seems about half of their trailer tire blowouts occured without any warning. Trace

Valor-Don
09-04-2014, 07:55 PM
I cannot speak for my competition and how their system reports low pressure or how quickly they notify the driver. But the Valor sensor monitors pressure and temperature every 4 seconds and reports to the display every 10-16 seconds. If there is an issue, the Valor monitor responds immediately and notifies the driver which wheel position has the issue. I have not heard from anyone where our system failed to notify them. I do have a testimonial from a Fifth Wheeler (not Heartland) who had a high temperature warning and found out his brake was hanging up. If not warned, he would have had an accident.

Valor-Don
09-04-2014, 08:16 PM
Don

I love a challenge. Please call me to discuss.

Don R
(734) 634-3278

murry135
09-05-2014, 07:19 AM
As I browse this thread and see either I like them or I don't like them I feel the need to get involved. My vote, I like Valor and had two brands so far and Valor is my choice and of course it is a personal like thing. However, when it comes to service Don and Valor are far above any other company out there. Now for my real input, no one has talked about a brake hanging up or a wheel bearing going or failing. Yes blow outs are sudden and catastophic but most of the time what cause the blow out. A sudden impact of a shart object in the roadway or tire fairure do too increased pressure from increased heat. So thats why I like and use and will never put my coach on the road with out a TPMS, one less thing to worry about and one more system to help monitor a mechanical part. Go Don Go.

Valor-Don
09-05-2014, 07:36 AM
Murry135 - thank you for the kind words and the endorsement. I agree with everything you said. I did mention in part of this thread about a customer (non-Heartland) I have who experienced a brake hang up on this Fifth Wheel and the Valor display notified him. He was able to pull over and found what the problem was before it caused a blowout and accident. The interesting thing was he had just replaced the brakes on his trailer just before his trip.
Of course, I hope the Valor system is never needed but things happen and it is better to be prepared. I also have auto insurance and hope I never need that either.
At Valor we have a saying...."It's all about the Sensor". That is what separates us from the competition.

EPaulikonis
09-05-2014, 07:56 PM
Just got finished up checking the Valor TPMS w/Don Rigby. Don stopped in at 8:00PM on his way back to MI from TN. What awesome customer focus. Don checked sensors on each tire. Glad he did because the sensor chips in display were transposed on axle #2. All sensors mounted on the rims did provide a readout. We moved on to swap out the display unit for a newer model which helped to insure there were no shorts in the antenna that may have been causing the dropout. For those unaware, any defect in the line connecting the antenna to the system will adversely affect gain which could drop a signal coming from a sensor in the tire. Both the right front (axle #1) and left rear (axle #2) still would not provide information to the system. Don is going to order two new sensors, ship them to me w/paid return postage, and I'm going to have them mounted at a local garage and return the two malfunctioning sensors so Valor can assess what's causing the issue. I'm confident Don will again go out of his way to get me some feedback on what caused the problem as well. I'll post a follow-up once the new sensors are mounted and back on the Landmark.

A final thought tonight...regardless of your position on using or not using a TPMS, I'd buy from Valor any day. Don has been beyond responsive to my needs as a customer and has went out of his way to help me resolve the issue. Customer service and quality are lacking in many industries, but Don is working his tail off to make sure his Valor customers are "Happy Campers!" Thanks again Don.

wdk450
09-06-2014, 09:22 AM
I HAVE had a REAL TPMS alarm before a tire could blowout, that saved me from having that harrowing experience. Due to a fractured drum at the bearings nipple, my tire inside sidewall was rubbing/shredding on the sharp corner of the frame shock mount. I guess the tire started to leak as I got a TPMS alarm in time to pull over to the edge of the freeway, and then slowly proceed to an offramp 1/4 mile away. The tire never exploded.

EPaulikonis
09-12-2014, 06:44 AM
Received the sensors in from Don last night. He sent me two since I had the driver's side front and passenger side rear sensor acting flaky when he did the checkout at my home. I need to pull the tires and get them to a shop to break down the rim and replace the sensors.

Have a feeling the display unit may have had a less than outstanding antenna connection as well. Don replaced that and one of the suspect tires gave me good readings on a short 20mi. trip yesterday when I picked the 5er up from the shop. Driver's side tire quit updating ~15mi. into the trip, but the rear passenger tire that used to read 0000 on the display was solid for the trip. I'll replace both regardless.

EPaulikonis
09-22-2014, 07:49 AM
Installed the two new sensors from Don. Had to re-baseline during the first tow, but all four tires on the trailer are now working without any issue. I really appreciate all of Don's help and his urgency getting the new sensors to me quickly.

jmgratz
09-22-2014, 08:41 AM
I removed my TPMS as it activated often in error .Who needs this stress !!! TPMS is just another sales gimmick and they rarely work properly.

IMHO you must have something wrong with your system. We have used a TPMS for years and the only issue we have had is on occasion a sensor would lose signal. We finally wore out our Doran system and replaced it with the TST system. We like the TST better as it is smaller and easier to deal with. We have the sensors that allow us to air up our tires without removing the sensor. I will say that on at least 6 occasions over the years the Doran TPMS has alerted us to a condition before we had a blowout saving us a tire and damage to the RV. The system did not alert us to a tire that 'blew' was the tire just 'exploded' and the TPMS is not designed to alert that type of failure. Keep in mind that all new motor vehicles are required to come with a built in TPMS so like it or not you will have one. Even our Ford Fiesta (an inexpensive car) came with a TPMS as standard equipment.