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DiggerDerrik
10-10-2016, 02:24 PM
Just bought one a week ago. Curious what others pull it with. Thank you.

jimtoo
10-10-2016, 02:47 PM
Hi DiggerDerrik,

Welcome to the Heartland Owners Forum and to the family. We have a great bunch of folks here with lots of information and all willing to share their knowledge when needed.

I'm sure some of our other owners will jump in soon with some info for you.

Be sure and check out our Heartland Owners Club (http://heartlandowners.org/content.php/128-heartland-owners-club-portal). Join us at a rally when you can and meet lots of the great folks here and make friends for a lifetime.

Enjoy the forum and your new unit.

Jim M

Bob&Patty
10-10-2016, 06:05 PM
What TV do you have??.

DiggerDerrik
10-10-2016, 06:17 PM
What TV do you have??.

The one it came with in the living room is some knock off brand I don't recall the name. Looks to be about 28-32 inch. I haven't even picked up the trailer to add the bedroom TV yet.

DiggerDerrik
10-10-2016, 06:42 PM
Wait. I'm an idiot. You meant Tow Vehicle. Sorry. I have two to choose from. A 2000 F250 with the V10 and a 2004 Ram 1500 5.7 QC. I'd prefer to use the Ram cause it has lower miles and I trust it more. However it has 3.55 gears. I'm seriously considering swapping those out for 4.11's

Bob&Patty
10-11-2016, 10:05 AM
Not knowing what the GVW of the trailer is....if its under 8K, I would not change the gear ratio. 4:11's would kill gas mileage.

rahewett
10-11-2016, 11:04 AM
We have the Wilderness 2775rb that we use a 2007 F150 5.4 to tow with. Either of what you have should be ok. I don't think your weight is much different than ours.

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DiggerDerrik
10-11-2016, 12:23 PM
The factory weight sticker on the trailer said it weighs 5996lbs empty and has a gvwr of 7000lbs with a little over 600lbs of tongue weight. The dealer threw in (although I'm sure I paid for it somehow) a 1000lbs weight distribution hitch. I don't plan on ever towing it with the water tanks full. We don't rough it. It's full hookups or bust. So I think we could easily go down the road at 6600lbs or less.

The Dodge has a tow capacity of 7600 with 3.55 gears and 8600 with 3.92's. I have added a second transmission cooler to it and a transmission temp guage.

The Ford I bought because they were practically giving it away. It needs a new transmission though. That's a project for a time unyet determined.

Thank you you for your replies

rahewett
10-11-2016, 02:56 PM
The dodge has the same tow capacity as my truck and the trailer weight is the same as mine, so you should be good to go.

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Bob&Patty
10-11-2016, 04:11 PM
Don't count on you will only be adding 500#'s to your trailer ready to travel. Clothes, shoes, food, some water in the fresh tank (don't leave home without some) sleeping bags,ETC,ETC weigh more than you think. People, dogs, cats, fuel, firewood ETC,ETC all add weight to the TV. Load up for travel, stop at a CAT scale (truck stop) and weigh the whole thing...and you will be surprised. Costs $9 to do it. BTW, the WDH probably weigh's in at 100# with all the parts and pieces.

justafordguy
10-11-2016, 04:34 PM
You can probably get by with the 1500 for while but the f250 will tow much better.

DiggerDerrik
10-11-2016, 04:59 PM
The dodge has the same tow capacity as my truck and the trailer weight is the same as mine, so you should be good to go.

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Thanks for the reply. I'm sure it'll be fine. I just tend to be cautious. I've gone on Dodge Ram forums and most everyone there tends to make it sound like I'm attempting to pull 40,000lbs with my 1/2 ton. This also coming from people who've probably never pulled a TT. Good to hear opinions from people who have.

I drive a Tractor-Trailer for a living. Done so for 10 years with no accidents but my experience in pulling smaller stuff with smaller equipment is pretty limited.

Thank you

DiggerDerrik
10-11-2016, 05:09 PM
Don't count you will only be adding 500#'s to your trailer ready to travel. Clothes, shoes, food, some water in the fresh tank (don't leave home without some) sleeping bags,ETC,ETC weigh more than you think. People, dogs, cats, fuel, firewood ETC,ETC all add weight to the TV. Load up for travel, stop at a CAT scale (truck stop) and weigh the whole thing...and you will be surprised. Costs $9 to do it. BTW, the WDH probably weigh's in at 100# with all the parts and pieces.

The payload on that truck is only about 1270lbs. Figure in 600 for the TT, 100 for the WDH, that leaves 570 for me, wife and 2 kids. So going over the trucks payload by a few pounds is probably unavoidable. However fully loaded the trailer is still 600lbs under trucks tow capacity. I know airbags won't increase the vehicles payload, nor will taller gears, but perhaps airbags will help stabilize.

I live in western Washington and there's plenty of hills here. Most of the trips we'all take will be to the ocean which is a realitively flat drive.

justafordguy
10-11-2016, 07:24 PM
A really good WDH with built in sway control will make more difference on that 1500 than anything else.

DiggerDerrik
11-27-2016, 09:47 AM
Just a small update. We finally got around to taking the TT out for its first trip. I was really unimpressed by how theRam 1500 pulled it. Every slight hill was a struggle. It would downshift and lose speed. Plus the truck only got 9mpg on a drive to the coast. I drive LTL for a living and am used to pulling trailers (usually they're load is rather light 5000-20,000lbs). I missed having the power and response of a turbo diesel. I figuring fixing the F250 with the V10 may help but ultimately be about the same experience. So I traded it in on 2011 F350 Lariat SRW 6.7. The Ram I will be driving to Arizona (empty) and leaving it for my parents. The pickup belonged to my Grandfather, when he passed away it was given to me so I feel giving it to another family member was the right thing to do. I just bought the 350 last night, I pick it up in a few hours, so I haven't towed the TT yet but I'm really looking forward to it. Unfortunately I won't be doing that till spring. Now the only thing I worry about is me wishing I had bought a bigger trailer.

Im not condemning 1/2 ton towing but for me at least it was not enjoyable. At least not with a trailer of that weight.

Im adding a picture of the 350 I took last night at the dealer. I haven't been this excited about a vehicle purchase since I was 16

rahewett
11-27-2016, 10:24 AM
Nice looking truck. I'm looking at moving up from my F-150 also but that may be awhile. I pull on much flatter ground here in North Carolina. We did go to the mountains recently and it did about as expected. Between 8&9 mpg. We just won't be making a lot of long distance trips until we move up in TV size.

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JohnD
11-27-2016, 10:30 AM
I loved my old 1996 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 as well.

It pulled our past two TT's with no problem . . . but all it took was one white knuckle panic stop, and that turned out to be the last trailer pull with it!

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Panic stop happened about 20 minutes after I took this shot in Estes Park, CO

Replaced it with my current 2015 Chevy 2500HD and sold the Dodge and it now resides in Rochester, NY.

We did end up going to a bigger trailer (5th-wheeler), but it (upgrade) had nothing to do with getting a bigger truck.

justafordguy
11-27-2016, 10:49 AM
Just a small update. We finally got around to taking the TT out for its first trip. I was really unimpressed by how theRam 1500 pulled it. Every slight hill was a struggle. It would downshift and lose speed. Plus the truck only got 9mpg on a drive to the coast. I drive LTL for a living and am used to pulling trailers (usually they're load is rather light 5000-20,000lbs). I missed having the power and response of a turbo diesel. I figuring fixing the F250 with the V10 may help but ultimately be about the same experience. So I traded it in on 2011 F350 Lariat SRW 6.7. The Ram I will be driving to Arizona (empty) and leaving it for my parents. The pickup belonged to my Grandfather, when he passed away it was given to me so I feel giving it to another family member was the right thing to do. I just bought the 350 last night, I pick it up in a few hours, so I haven't towed the TT yet but I'm really looking forward to it. Unfortunately I won't be doing that till spring. Now the only thing I worry about is me wishing I had bought a bigger trailer.

Im not condemning 1/2 ton towing but for me at least it was not enjoyable. At least not with a trailer of that weight.

Im adding a picture of the 350 I took last night at the dealer. I haven't been this excited about a vehicle purchase since I was 16

That's a nice f350, you will love the way it tows. It won't even know that Wilderness is back there.

DiggerDerrik
11-29-2016, 03:19 PM
That's a nice f350, you will love the way it tows. It won't even know that Wilderness is back there.

Thank you. I've put about 100 empty miles on it so far and am beyond in love with it. Was getting about 19mpg Highway too till last night it hit regen and dropped the average to 17mpg. The best the Ram 1500 ever got was 15mpg. I may park my commuter car for a few weeks and enjoy the 60 mile a day trip to and from work in it.

Pierre5355
08-12-2017, 10:47 PM
I think an F350 is overkill. Towing capacity of 15000 lbs pounds and pulling only 6000 lbs. Maybe in the States the prices are cheaper but In Canada The F 350 sells for 120K___ F250 95K____ and Lariat F150 85K.

avvidclif
08-13-2017, 12:07 PM
You can never have too much truck. He's already talking about a bigger trailer. LOL

LBR
08-13-2017, 12:35 PM
You can never have too much truck. He's already talking about a bigger trailer. LOLAgreed....when I see an oncoming SRW pulling a 5ver with 3,500 to over 4,000# on the pin, the DW and I make their ears burn. Should they have a blowout on rear of truck, they are endangering our 2 lives, who ever they have in their truck, and the surrounding motorists....get a truck with a set of hips on it, please.....for our safety and yours as well.

Pierre5355
08-13-2017, 07:45 PM
Agreed....when I see an oncoming SRW pulling a 5ver with 3,500 to over 4,000# on the pin, the DW and I make their ears burn. Should they have a blowout on rear of truck, they are endangering our 2 lives, who ever they have in their truck, and the surrounding motorists....get a truck with a set of hips on it, please.....for our safety and yours as well.
I would love to have a F350 but at 120,000$ here in Canada and 6$ a gallon for gas it's just a dream. I went to Myrtle Beach about 15 times and saw many F250's there . all plates from Canada were using the F150

JohnD
08-14-2017, 12:38 AM
An F250 or 2500HD would be all the overkill you'll need.

Our previous Heartland Trail Runner weighed around 7800 pounds loaded and when we replaced our old Dodge Ram 1500 with our current Chevy 2500HD (gas engine with 4.10 rear end), our towing went from night to day better.

Especially stopping power!

We've since up graded to a 5th-wheel, which weighs 9860 when loaded, and the 2500 is matched perfectly for the Prowler.

And we pull through the Rocky Mountains for most of our camping trips.

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Pierre5355
08-14-2017, 08:00 PM
Agreed....when I see an oncoming SRW pulling a 5ver with 3,500 to over 4,000# on the pin, the DW and I make their ears burn. Should they have a blowout on rear of truck, they are endangering our 2 lives, who ever they have in their truck, and the surrounding motorists....get a truck with a set of hips on it, please.....for our safety and yours as well.



...The original post here says what truck are you using to pull a 5500lb travel trailer!! I just said that the Ford F150 that has a rating of close to 12000lbs .
If you want to pull a 5000lb trailer with a F350,450,550 well good for you ________but it is really necessary??

Thanks

LBR
08-15-2017, 05:17 AM
...... The original post here says what truck are you using to pull a 5500lb travel trailer!! I just said that the Ford F150 that has a rating of close to 12000lbs .
If you want to pull a 5000lb trailer with a F350,450,550 well good for you ________but it is really necessary??

Thanks.....it's ...simply an amplification of another member's post whom I quoted.

My entire statement is directed at those towing heavy FWs (approaching 2 tons of pin weight unsafely IMO) with a SRW pickup.......

Tow with what you want, where you want to.... happy trailering to you and yours.

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