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sjandbj
01-01-2017, 10:39 PM
My wife and I are planning to relocate to Clearwater FL. We are trying to get an idea what registration for a 2017 Ford f350 and a 2015 Big country. If any Floridians could help us with some info it would be very helpful.
Thanks.
Steve

BighornELK
01-02-2017, 07:11 AM
I don't remember what our RV cost, but our TV was $140.00 for a year. Florida vehicle registration fees are based on vehicle weight, and will expire on your birth date. However, your TV will expire on December 31st.

Hulk
01-02-2017, 07:34 AM
My truck is 120 2017 ram 3500 and my trailer is like 60 2016 oakmont 375qb


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JohnD
01-02-2017, 09:32 AM
Wow . . . you guys have got it made!

For my 2015 Chevy 2500HD this year . . . $645.00 . . . for our 2015 Heartland Prowler . . . $550.00.

This was the third year for plates on the truck . . . second year on the Prowler.

Of course, they probably get those dollars out of you in other ways, like higher gas taxes and all of those toll roads.

MCTalley
01-02-2017, 11:31 AM
Of course, they probably get those dollars out of you in other ways, like higher gas taxes...

For Florida, yes.

Nabo
01-02-2017, 04:04 PM
Ouch - here in TN we have a semi tag on the Landmark which is a one time plate and the fee was $98. The truck is $24 per year. We have decided not to transfer our vehicles and camper to our FL address because it's so much cheaper in TN.

Oregon_Camper
01-02-2017, 04:56 PM
For my 2015 Chevy 2500HD this year . . . $645.00 . . . for our 2015 Heartland Prowler . . . $550.00.




Ouch!! $48 for 2 years on the Truck (year/weight no impact)....$150 for the Bighorn for 2 years.

danemayer
01-02-2017, 05:22 PM
Colorado has very high annual tag/registration fees for vehicles, but also has very low property tax. And of course there's a state income tax.

Our tax burden is about the same as it was in Austin, TX where tag/registration fees were low, property taxes were high, and there was no state income tax.

JohnD
01-02-2017, 06:38 PM
Our property taxes were more than double in Michigan from what they are in Colorado, however, a lot of stuff that was 'free' in Michigan cost lots of money here.

Like drivers education, for example.

It was just a part of 10th. grade in Michigan . . . here it cost around $1000 out of pocket per student!

Lynn1130
01-03-2017, 10:39 AM
Yes, registration fees for vehicles is not a true test of cost. Some states, such as Arizona do not charge personal property tax on those items and the registration fee is higher than other states that do have personal property taxes.

When they really get you good is when both are high.

Johng1970
02-13-2017, 01:57 AM
Ouch!! $48 for 2 years on the Truck (year/weight no impact)....$150 for the Bighorn for 2 years.

$25 / 5 years in Louisiana!

carl.swoyer
02-20-2017, 09:34 AM
I believe that you have to pay sales tax base on the county your residing in. Also $100.00 title fee.

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murry135
02-20-2017, 10:17 AM
Here is the most up to date info since we just checked pricing on registration and INSURANCE for our vehicles.
The annual REGISTRATION fee's are cheaper than NY by about 50%, there is a one time fee of approximately $500 to switch registration to Florida and you also need to hand over your titles to the Florida DMV for they hold you titles. An inspection of all vehicles is need to confirm VIN numbers and vehicle descriptions supplied a time of registration. Yes, my 2013 40ft. Landmark would only cost me about $50 per year as compared to $262/yr but the insurance in Florida is extremely costly. When all was said and done I was not saving enough money to change at this time. Do your homework, call your insurance company in Florida, for it needs to be a Florida based agent and get your cost. We were disappointed to hear these fee's.

Murry135:(

Lynn1130
02-20-2017, 12:04 PM
you also need to hand over your titles to the Florida DMV for they hold you titles.

WHAT? Why in the world would they do that? On top of questionable legal issues think about the cost involved in handling and storing all of those documents. Even if they really needed to do that, and I have trouble seeing why, it could be done by copying, digitizing and storing. Still a huge, time consuming expense. And my guess is that when you go to sell the vehicle, they will have lost the title.

MTPockets
02-20-2017, 12:32 PM
We're registered in FL. They require 5 forms of identification to start, but going forward everything else is very smooth. Our truck was financed and all they wanted from me was the finance company info. You can also pay for two years, which we liked.

Lynn1130
02-20-2017, 12:54 PM
Where are you registered to vote? Some states, like Arizona consider the person a resident if they are registered to vote in that state (military exempt) and require them to register their vehicles in that state also. We have a good number of "residents by law" that register their vehicles in other states that have lower fees. Getting caught can be very expensive.

danemayer
02-20-2017, 01:26 PM
you also need to hand over your titles to the Florida DMV for they hold you titles.

I've moved from state to state a few times and best I can recall, in each case the old title had to be surrendered in order to register and get a title from the new state. I don't think a state will issue registration without also titling the vehicle.

I think I remember Texas saying something about storing the old title; probably so that possible future claims of theft or fraud could be researched. Colorado just took the old titles and issued new ones.

murry135
02-20-2017, 04:34 PM
WHAT? Why in the world would they do that? On top of questionable legal issues think about the cost involved in handling and storing all of those documents. Even if they really needed to do that, and I have trouble seeing why, it could be done by copying, digitizing and storing. Still a huge, time consuming expense. And my guess is that when you go to sell the vehicle, they will have lost the title.
And your point is?

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Lynn1130
02-20-2017, 06:53 PM
And your point is?

That I thought that was a pretty big waste of taxpayer money. I think the point was pretty obvious, mass inefficiency and who wants some state agency to have control of the title? How many jokes have you heard about MVD and how well they operate.

In most states you or the loan company/bank/credit union keep the title. In Arizona the buyer gets the title and when the loan is paid off the loan agency sends a document saying the title is clear. If you buy a new vehicle the title is sent to you in about 30 days. If you bring a vehicle in to register the old title is taken, a new one is mailed in a month or so.

Another thought. So you move to Montana and want to sell your vehicle when you get there. How long will it take to get the title from Florida so you can sell it?

Mrsfish
02-20-2017, 07:11 PM
That I thought that was a pretty big waste of taxpayer money. I think the point was pretty obvious, mass inefficiency and who wants some state agency to have control of the title? How many jokes have you heard about MVD and how well they operate.

In most states you or the loan company/bank/credit union keep the title. In Arizona the buyer gets the title and when the loan is paid off the loan agency sends a document saying the title is clear. If you buy a new vehicle the title is sent to you in about 30 days. If you bring a vehicle in to register the old title is taken, a new one is mailed in a month or so.

Another thought. So you move to Montana and want to sell your vehicle when you get there. How long will it take to get the title from Florida so you can sell it?

Sorry Lynn, but my last 4 vehicle purchases, the title was held by the lien holder. I did not receive the title until it had been paid off.

Joe G
02-20-2017, 07:18 PM
I just registered my TV and RV in Florida and yes I had to re-title both.

TV Cost
Title $90.25
Registration $143.10 - 1yr.

RV Cost
Title $87.75
Registration $102.20 - 2yrs.

Lynn1130
02-20-2017, 07:24 PM
Sorry Lynn, but my last 4 vehicle purchases, the title was held by the lien holder. I did not receive the title until it had been paid off.

Re read my post. That is what I said. It either held by the bank/credit union/loan company. To be honest, I have not taken a loan out on a vehicle in probably 30 years. I subscribe to the Dave Ramsey theory about loans. So I get the title in 30/45 days. The last time I did, I got the title and AZFCU sent me a lien release when it was paid off. Arizona changed that awhile back it seems but it is still not held by DVM/MVD.

And I still go back to my original. Who wants MVD to be holding any document of theirs? Major frustration waiting to happen.

danemayer
02-20-2017, 07:37 PM
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.

When I moved from Maryland to Florida, I had my vehicle titles. When I moved from Florida to Indiana I had my titles. When I moved from Indiana to Florida I had my titles. When I moved from Florida to Texas, I didn't have to request titles from Florida. I had them in my possession. When I moved from Texas to Colorado, I had the titles. In each case, in order to get a new title in the new state, I had to surrender the old title, which I had in my possession.

When I had a vehicle loan, and sold the vehicle, I had to obtain a lien release so that the buyer could take that and my signed title to the registrar in order to get his new title. I think in one move there had been a loan that was paid off before I moved and I had to provide both the old title and lien release in order to get a new, clean title.

Lynn1130
02-20-2017, 07:55 PM
Dan,
That is pretty much what I was talking about. The owner has the title. In some states I guess now the lien holder may have it and send it to the owner when the loan is paid off. My beef was with a state, any state that held on to a title, for whatever reason. In this case one person said that Florida does that. I don't know, perhaps they do, but if they do it is a major disservice to the taxpayers and vehicle owner. Just me, but I would be calling my local legislator wanting to know why they were wasting my dollars on BS bureaucracy.

MCTalley
02-24-2017, 12:29 PM
I don't have complete information (see below), but here's our experience (so far):

We are switching to Florida (Polk county) from Texas (Polk county via Escapees). We have a 2012 Ford Escape, 2016 F350 and 2015 Big Country. The Escape is paid for, the other two have loans against them. The only information I didn't know before we went in was that they need the title sent from the lienholders before you can register your vehicles, so the F350 and RV are still with Texas tags for a little longer.

The title fee, as mentioned earlier in the thread, is around $100. That will apply to each vehicle. I don't have the breakdown in front of me, but the total registration cost (aside from the title fee) on the Escape was $319. $28 of that was because we got a specialty plate, $225 of that was a one-time initial registration fee. I'm not clear if that is per vehicle or per person. Note that registrations expire on your birthday. Mine is in 6 months.

You have the choice of having the local tax office hold a physical paper title, having them hold an electronic title or having them send you a physical printed title (if the vehicle does not have a lienholder). Note that if you have your title in hand and lose it, you'll have to pay around $85 to have another issued. I suspect if they lost their physical copy, they would just print another if you needed it.

They require a form to be filled out verifying your VIN number and mileage for any vehicle with a motor, so the RV is exempt from that requirement. We took the car and truck to the local Ford dealer and they filled them out for free. Having a dealer do it avoids having to have them notarized.

If you purchased any of your vehicles in the last 6 months, you will be on the hook for any difference in sales tax from the state you are moving from to Florida. We bought the Escape less than 6 months ago and owed the difference in Florida taxes vs. Texas taxes. Fortunately, that was only $10.

I'll give an update when we get the truck and RV registered, but that won't be until we get back down here in April.

Per insurance costs, we found that ours were much lower as compared to our rates in Texas. The truck and car rates (combined) dropped about $500 every six months. Our trailer insurance (full-timers) dropped around $500 for the year (admittedly, part of that was due to switching from replacement value coverage to declared value coverage, which is cheaper).

sjandbj
02-24-2017, 02:49 PM
I don't have complete information (see below), but here's our experience (so far):

We are switching to Florida (Polk county) from Texas (Polk county via Escapees). We have a 2012 Ford Escape, 2016 F350 and 2015 Big Country. The Escape is paid for, the other two have loans against them. The only information I didn't know before we went in was that they need the title sent from the lienholders before you can register your vehicles, so the F350 and RV are still with Texas tags for a little longer.

The title fee, as mentioned earlier in the thread, is around $100. That will apply to each vehicle. I don't have the breakdown in front of me, but the total registration cost (aside from the title fee) on the Escape was $319. $28 of that was because we got a specialty plate, $225 of that was a one-time initial registration fee. I'm not clear if that is per vehicle or per person. Note that registrations expire on your birthday. Mine is in 6 months.

You have the choice of having the local tax office hold a physical paper title, having them hold an electronic title or having them send you a physical printed title (if the vehicle does not have a lienholder). Note that if you have your title in hand and lose it, you'll have to pay around $85 to have another issued. I suspect if they lost their physical copy, they would just print another if you needed it.

They require a form to be filled out verifying your VIN number and mileage for any vehicle with a motor, so the RV is exempt from that requirement. We took the car and truck to the local Ford dealer and they filled them out for free. Having a dealer do it avoids having to have them notarized.

If you purchased any of your vehicles in the last 6 months, you will be on the hook for any difference in sales tax from the state you are moving from to Florida. We bought the Escape less than 6 months ago and owed the difference in Florida taxes vs. Texas taxes. Fortunately, that was only $10.

I'll give an update when we get the truck and RV registered, but that won't be until we get back down here in April.

Per insurance costs, we found that ours were much lower as compared to our rates in Texas. The truck and car rates (combined) dropped about $500 every six months. Our trailer insurance (full-timers) dropped around $500 for the year (admittedly, part of that was due to switching from replacement value coverage to declared value coverage, which is cheaper).

This is exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks

MCTalley
02-24-2017, 03:03 PM
I found this fairly informative PDF file.

Florida DHSMV Fees (http://www.hsmv.state.fl.us/dmv/forms/BTR/83140.pdf)

Note that the $225 fee will be per-vehicle for motorized vehicles (so none on your RV). Part years are not pro-rated.

So for our vehicles, the taxes would be:

Ford Escape - $35.60 (Passenger car under 3,500 lb).
Ford F-350 - $99.35 (dry weight of 6000-7999) or $114.60 (dry weight of 8000-9999) or $139.60 (weight range 10000-14999). The sheet says GVW (as opposed to GVWR), so I'm not sure what number they'll use.
Fifth wheel - $36.60 (over 35')

When you renew, you'll only be paying those amounts per year, roughly.

murry135
02-25-2017, 06:04 PM
I did not see a savings in insurance at all in fact State Farm insurance was atleast $500 more for me every 6months. Guess NY is not that bad. Reg fee's however were a big savings. In the end it was a wash for us so we stayed with our home state of NY.

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