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pmmjarrett
10-17-2008, 07:30 PM
As many of you know I'm a professional RV transporter. Speaking with Jim the other day I mentioned I was doing this and he asked if I'd share the build here.

A little about my background... Besides serving in the military and driving truck I have been a shipfitter, bodyman, welder and mechanic, both cars and heavy trucks. I have the skills and tools needed to do this work nearly completely by myself.

I have decided to step things up a notch and build a "Tow & Haul" transporter truck to be able to transport 2 - 3 trailers at a time and have the flexibility to load cars, boats and whatever else I can winch onto the bed or tow behind it.

This allows me to be more competitve in the transport industry operate at a reduced rate for smaller units, provide a premium service to our customers like Heartland and their dealers and remain profitable during slow times which will be very important over the next few years until the economy recovers.

I have chosen I truck that is inexpensive to maintain, easy to get parts for and was cheap enough to have it paid for before even leaving my yard so I have very little overhead during slow times that allows me to simply park it if there is no freight.

It's a 1998 Ford F-800 regular cab I picked up today. Found it on Craigslist. Truck market is on its 4th point of contact so if you are looking to step into a nice used medium duty for towing that Cyclone or Landmark it may do you good to shop around now.




Specs:

1998 Ford F-800 cab & chassis
184,000 miles
5.9 Cummins P-pump 12 valve
Allison 540 series 4 speed automatic
19.5" tires
3.54 gear ratio
26,000 GWV
7k steer axle
19k rear axle
Power windows
AC - and it's ice cold too!!!!!
Hydroboost hydraulic brakes
Runs and drives great, one owner, all maintenance records, oil changed every 5k miles.... Engine runs perfect, no blowby, great power, tranny shifts perfect, drives good, everything is in working condition, New paint, rust free southern truck. No rust even under the truck.

All for only $3000..... yep that's not a typo.

First order of business will be to stretch the frame anothe 8 - 10 feet:eek: Then start building a body.

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The end result over the next month or 2 will look similar to these.
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dewwood
10-18-2008, 12:46 PM
Good looking rig! I envision some larger fuel tanks in the makeover. Keep us posted on your progress.

pmmjarrett
10-18-2008, 03:28 PM
Thankyou. Currently it has twin 40 or 50 gallon tanks. I want to put on some aluminum 100 - 150 gallon tanks and polish them.

Will be building the rig step by step in this post.

I welcome any ideas and constructive critisism from both members as well as the factory. Always good to have an extra pair of eyes on a project like this so it's done right and ready for the job the first time.

dewwood
10-18-2008, 03:42 PM
Are you incorporating a sleeper into the design?

irvin56
10-18-2008, 05:02 PM
1) will you have to have unit federally inspected before licensing? because of the build
2) How will this effect you Comb. gvwr ?? and how much would your total be after the build??
3) Will you be able to haul and tow combined after mod.??
4) do you pull with wdh setup now when transporting??
and also when finished the new one.
Reason I ask is the guy from Saskatchwan told me he pulls with only ball and no wdh. Been 3 yrs pulling and no poblems

Good luck on your venture with build

pmmjarrett
10-18-2008, 06:19 PM
Sleeper, Yes, Thinking of something like the Cowtown Sleeper (http://www.cowtownsleepers.com/images/DOTsleeperontank.jpg) that will allow me to tuck the trailer tounge under the sleeper maximizing cargo space. May go larger for better living on the road.



1) will you have to have unit federally inspected before licensing? because of the build
2) How will this effect you Comb. gvwr ?? and how much would your total be after the build??
3) Will you be able to haul and tow combined after mod.??
4) do you pull with wdh setup now when transporting??
and also when finished the new one.
Reason I ask is the guy from Saskatchwan told me he pulls with only ball and no wdh. Been 3 yrs pulling and no poblems

Good luck on your venture with build


Federal inspection - yes but not because of the build, it's an annual requirement on all commercial vehicles, even my 1 ton dually.
GVW and GCWR won't be affected. GVW now is 26k, curb wt now is 8100 lbs, est curb wt when done 12,000 leaving me 14k for payload. Biggest trailers put on these are FEMA trailers weighing less than 7k so I'll never be close to GVW much less GCWR
Yes, 2 - 3 and possibly 4 trailers at a time depending on size as well as cars and anything else that fits.
I do use wdh with the dually, it's required by most factories. IMHO it's overkill on a dually with airbags but I have to play by the rules. Our company won't even let you out of the gate without the wdh installed...... Can't use it with the Tow/Haul trucks, it'll break the frame in half. It has happened at our company and it has happened to a Heartland North Trail. IIRC the Heartland unit was totaled and the transport company had to buy it. Not sure if it was our company that broke the Heartland unit.

RVCamper
10-18-2008, 10:18 PM
I have some ideas on a "kneeling" trailer design that will allow you to have only about a 8 degree ramp.

nhunter
10-18-2008, 11:29 PM
Should be great. What the heck is wdh?

irvin56
10-19-2008, 12:13 AM
Weight Distrubution hitch
for The tougue pull trailers


nhunter I was watching trailer park boys
Are you a star in this show?

Sure looks like you do we have fame and fortune among us??

pmmjarrett
10-19-2008, 08:07 AM
I have some ideas on a "kneeling" trailer design that will allow you to have only about a 8 degree ramp.


Thank you.

Air ride with dump valve is being considered. 3" is all the rear suspension travel I have to work with as 36" is the max height of the bed loaded. It's $2750 for parts alone I'm not sure I want to dump into the build right now. I can accomplish the same thing with 3" wood ramps for the front tires to get me started. Budget for the project including the truck purchase is $10k so the basics come first, nice toys as allowed.

8* is the angle of the beavertail and ramps I am using (so far), may go to 10*, can't go much more than this without risking ripping off the trailers stabilizer jacks when you winch it on.

Been playing with Autocad 2008. Using 8*, without dump I need 14' ramps With a 3" dump I can go down to 10' ramps.

Now using 10* angle and 3" dump I can go to 7.5' ramps which will tuck up in the body "Texas Style" which is what I want.

Have to make things as easy as possible to use with my disabilities.

mrcllusb
10-20-2008, 10:14 PM
I was thinking of doing the some kinda transport service for my fellow soldiers if i can get my hands on a C4500 if i can get one within my price range,just to look out for them if they don't have the funds to pay an actual hauling service.

pmmjarrett
10-21-2008, 06:43 AM
I was thinking of doing the some kinda transport service for my fellow soldiers if i can get my hands on a C4500 if i can get one within my price range,just to look out for them if they don't have the funds to pay an actual hauling service.

Quite admirable but you want to figure out your actual cost per mile before sticking your neck out and doing this. You might be surprised and it will COST you money if you don't.

With a medium duty truck at est 8 mpg loaded and 12 empty your fuel cost alone (which is your single biggest expense) is $0.81 per mile @ $3.89 per gallon. With no truck payment.... Your actual cost per mile for a one way trip and back empty figuring tire wear insurance food etc...... will be around $1.22 per mile.

Single tow towaway rates for pickup trucks like my dually that get 12 mpg loaded and 20+ empty right now are around $1.25 to $1.50 per mile and we have cargo insurance, transport plates etc....... There's a reason nobody uses a medium duty for single tow towables, they simply can't compete.

If private joe snuffy can't afford us, he honestly can't afford you either.

BTW, thanks for your service:D

mrcllusb
10-21-2008, 07:01 PM
I understand where your coming from.Even if i broke even i would just do it for the experience ya know.That way i can justify purchasing the truck to the wife besides just using it to move the fifth wheel..

pmmjarrett
10-22-2008, 05:04 AM
Nothing wrong with your idea. I just want you to realize the real cost of doing this and don't want to see ya go out and pooch yourself trying to hook somebody up with a favor.

Or do like many people when they retire and buy these nice class 4 and class 5 hauler rigs decide to transport trailers like me to offset the cost of their purchase and then go out of business as fast as they got into it because they are working for free.... or less.

Only place for a medium duty trucks transporting RVs is what I'm doing to transport 2 or more at a time.

To be profitable in the towaway business you need fuel economy and use a 3/4 or 1 ton Dodge with Cummins (prolly 75% or better of the transporters run Dodge) and prefferably a 5.9 w/ six speed manual or a Chevy/GMC with Duramax Allison (most of the rest that don't run a Dodge). Sorry Ford guys, except for the 7.3, the Powerstroke 6.0 and 6.4 doesn't cut it in this business.

HOSS
10-22-2008, 11:01 AM
pmmjarrett,

While staying in our local campground (Point Mallard Campground), I have had people wanting me to help move their 5fer or tt around the campground to better sites, for one reason or another. (Truck in shop, if local, carried truck back home, you name it.) I have a 2008 Chevy Crew Cab Dually with the Duramax/Allison set up with built in exhaust brake and brake controller. What are the qualifications for doing this full time and would it be worth it. I am retired and love to travel. Any info on this would be very helpful.

pmmjarrett
10-22-2008, 03:17 PM
pmmjarrett,

While staying in our local campground (Point Mallard Campground), I have had people wanting me to help move their 5fer or tt around the campground to better sites, for one reason or another. (Truck in shop, if local, carried truck back home, you name it.) I have a 2008 Chevy Crew Cab Dually with the Duramax/Allison set up with built in exhaust brake and brake controller. What are the qualifications for doing this full time and would it be worth it. I am retired and love to travel. Any info on this would be very helpful.

Driver and Equipment qualifications (http://www.horizontransport.com/Pickup_Equipment.asp)

another company (http://www.qualitydriveaway.com/php/recruiting/index.php)

another company (http://www.classic-transportinc.com/index.aspx)

another (http://www.hoosier-rv-transport.com/index.htm)

another (http://www.bennettig.com/ownop_employment.php)


This is the worst time ever to break into the business. The economy has simply ground the RV industry to a halt, most companies are not hiring. Summers are usually slow but not this bad. Best time to start is in January then it runs fairly strong until the 4th of July.

pmmjarrett
10-22-2008, 05:25 PM
Have been parts shopping. Still trying to get over the sticker shock of the price of steel now. Was quoted well over $700 just for 2 custom bent 10 ft sections of A36 carbon steel for the frame rails and they couldn't even tell me the tensile strength rating.......:eek: decided to go junk yard hopping yesterday.

First truck salvage yard I hit, Marsh Auto Parts (http://www.marshautoparts.com/), SCORE, I nailed what I needed and what I wanted to pay. Have delt with them before on hard to find stuff and always come through for me.

Picked up over 19' of 50,000 psi frame with all crossmembers and more from another F-800 Ford for $300. 11' of this frame is forward of the center of the rear axle which means if the spring hangers were the same I won't have to drill new holes to mount my rear axle.:D The rest of the frame behind the rear axle is virgin and never chopped like mine so bonus is I have needed support for the bed in one nice piece.

Second goodie was an old 1970s - 1980s Rest Rite 36" sleeper with a nice interior for $400. Bonus here is it was already mounted to an F series cab so I get the trim pieces I need and it is already notched for the frame as the F series cabs sit low on the frame unlike a regular class 8 truck cab. Had them just cut the back of the cab off for me so I get EEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverything;).... and for some reason the monkey they sent to pull the sleeper STILL cut the friggin custom boot between the cab and sleeper in half :mad:

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pmmjarrett
10-28-2008, 07:02 PM
Hauled a boat to Miami for a show this weekend so no work done. Home now.


Today was just a day of getting the shop ready for the sleeper install over the next few days. Picked up some paint sealer and other misc parts and built a light duty gantry so I could get it off my trailer and into the shop for paint and prep. Unfortunatly the door on my shop is only 7' tall so most work will be outside. Did get it off the trailer.

Plan for tomorrow

Get sleeper into shop
Separate from old cab
Strip interior
Fix a couple inoperable latches
Sand
Cut a few inches off the bottom if frameing structure allows (need clearance for battery box on truck.)
Make template for opening cut on truck cab. I want a sit in bunk like it was designed to be unlike what the last owner did crawling through the back window. Had to do that a couple times today trying to get the side doors open, Not fun.
Will post progress report and pics tomorrow.

pmmjarrett
10-29-2008, 06:14 PM
Busy day today. Got the sleeper removed from the old cab (what a PITA), removed the entire interior, latches, locks and emblems, got it turned around and up on stands and marked the old cab back to cut out a template.

Decided to scratch cutting the bottom couple inches off, will relocate the battery box instead if necessary.

Tomorrow, I will take the doors off, clean, sand prime and paint if time permits. Reason for takin the doors off is that I am doing a color change and I hate opening a door jamb and seeing a different color. IMHO It makes for an unprofessional paint job.

As for my flimsey looking Redneck Gantry, it's actually pretty stable and well braced..... but it's only designed to lift a couple hundred lbs too. Don't use one made with 2x lumber to hoist engines.

I'm going to use hosted more dial up freindly pictures from here out.


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pmmjarrett
10-30-2008, 05:54 PM
Today I cleaned, sanded, removed the doors, sprayed sealer (so the red wouldn't bleed into the white) and shot the white on the shell. Still have to paint the doors but my primary focus is the shell so we can start mounting it to the cab and chassis tomorrow.

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RVCamper
10-30-2008, 07:48 PM
Moving fast .. keep the pictures comming.

pmmjarrett
10-31-2008, 05:11 PM
Moving fast .. keep the pictures comming.


Yes Sir. Time is money and the faster it gets on the road the faster it starts earning it's keep


Todays progress.

Got the cab interior stripped, cut out and the sleeper in place. Had to drop the battery box, will have to lower it this weekend. We moved the drivers side fuel tank forward because of concern of clearance but it's fine so it can be put back where it was. Used part of the frame that will be cut off and discarded for L brackets to mount the rear of the sleeper. Overall went fairly smooth today.

Used Rubatex pipe insulation to make a custom boot between the cab and sleeper. We used contact cement to hold it in place so it can be crushed between the sleeper and cab.

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HarleyRyder
10-31-2008, 06:01 PM
You're having more fun that one man should be allowed to have! I look forward to the updates and to seeing the finished truck.

pmmjarrett
10-31-2008, 06:51 PM
You're having more fun that one man should be allowed to have! I look forward to the updates and to seeing the finished truck.


POWERTOOLS ARR ARR ARR!!! Didn't know you could have too much fun.;)

With myself and my freind having probably a combined 50+ years in mechanical, autobody and metal trades I'll just say we don't have a shortage of tools and equipment in the shop.

That Dewalt 7" grinder he's using in the pic with a 7" cutting wheel is just plain scary nasty, ripped through 15 linear inches of 1/4" thick structural steel frame like butter...... and he wasn't even using the good Norton cutting discs for that cut.

pmmjarrett
11-01-2008, 05:34 PM
Todays progress.
Moved the fuel tank back into place, put the bracket back on to limit forward movement and tightened the straps back up. Had to lower the battery box 2" and bolted everything back together. Still have plenty of ground clearance.
Not much else done except taking careful measurements to calculate the stretch. Wheelbase is getting a 118" stretch bringing it to a 295" wheelbase. This puts 60% of the 26' body forward of the rear axle (roughly 15.5') and 10.5' behind the center of the rear axle.
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mrcomer
11-01-2008, 09:29 PM
I really enjoy watching your project progress. Thanks for keeping us updated and supplying pictures. Everything looks great. I am envious of your expertise and how fast you are doing this. Better than watching Chip Foose or Orange County Choppers. Maybe they should start a reality show for fellas like you that do this to make a living.

Mark

pmmjarrett
11-01-2008, 10:19 PM
I really enjoy watching your project progress. Thanks for keeping us updated and supplying pictures. Everything looks great. I am envious of your expertise and how fast you are doing this. Better than watching Chip Foose or Orange County Choppers. Maybe they should start a reality show for fellas like you that do this to make a living.

Mark

Thank you. It's my pleasure. Think this is fast ya should have seen me 20 years ago. It takes me 2 days to do what used to take me 2 hours LOL.

They can call the show "Redneck Survival 101" LOL. Don't need a reality show, I'm sure I'm breaking some law as it is and don't need OSHA, Fire department or the EPA checking out my operation.... Hmmmm let's see.... Gantry built from 2x4s a 2x10 and some 3" drywall screws...buddy standing on roof of shop putting the chain hoists in place (before I could get the ladder out he climbed the gantry like a monkey, and he's 50 years old).... caught grass on fire several times welding..... painted sleeper outside because I don't have a way to move something that size inside.... should say opening because it doesn't even have a door...... Yep, breaking something for sure.


Thinking about how the truck looked when I pulled the tail out of the shop today, I see where It might help somebody here that has the ability to do this and that's tight on cash or simply doesn't want to spend the bucks on a crew cab sport chassis to tote that big toyhauler they only move or use occasionally. There are tons of cheap day cabs out there. I wouldn't use anything heavier duty than what I have. A class 4 or 5 is plenty. Mine is a class 6 but still basicly just an overgrown pickup.

The truck is just about to the point where just adding a fifth wheel, air ride, rear fenders and finishing the interior would make a good medium duty toter for under $7k......I have a whopping $4k into the project now as it sits.

If I was going to use that to carry the family I'd use a Peterbilt 63" unibilt stand up sleeper, (see them sell on ebay for about $500), take out the bunk and put in an RV jack knife sofa and seatbelts in it. Wanna get carried away for a few more $$ add a fridge, microwave, TV, DVD, playstation so the romper room stays quiet........ Until they fight over what game or movie they are playing.

pmmjarrett
11-04-2008, 09:31 PM
No updates for a week or so. Taking a "quick" trip to Grande Prairie Alberta w/ a 40' toyhauler. Be back home the middle to end of next week. In ND right now, will cross the boder in the AM

HarleyRyder
11-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Make it a quick trip. I'm going through withdrawals. I need an update with pictures.

nhunter
11-04-2008, 11:12 PM
You might want to bring your woolies, starting to get cold the last few days and calling for some light snow tommorrow. At least you can get diesel again though. Still costs too much though.

pmmjarrett
11-05-2008, 11:11 AM
It'll be a quick trip. Trying to get home by the 11th but definatly before the 14th when my daughter has her tonsils taken out.


Been keeping a close eye on the weather and already have my woolies on.

I'm in Kenmare, ND 50 miles from the border and 960 miles from my destination checking weather and such. Also topping up my tanks right now. Crossing w/ 125 gallons so I will only need about 20 gallons max in Canadian fuel to get back to the states.

pmmjarrett
11-10-2008, 02:13 PM
On my way home, should be there tomorrow afternoon, in Indiana right now.

Going to Ohio to pick up a couple nice Bostrom Peterbilt air ride seats I won cheap on Evilbay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320315770674&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&viewitem=) in a few hrs soon as my trip $ettlement hits.

Uncle Rog
11-10-2008, 11:12 PM
pm, haul'n rv's has to be safer than slid'n down a static line, even in your "woolies", what?

truknutt
11-11-2008, 08:39 AM
...Been keeping a close eye on the weather and already have my woolies on. ...


"Woolies"?...You are an old soldier; it's Poly-Pros now, baby! :D

nhunter
11-11-2008, 05:29 PM
"Woolies"?...You are an old soldier; it's Poly-Pros now, baby! :D
You don't have to be old to have woolies:D

pmmjarrett
11-12-2008, 12:25 AM
Jumping is much safer than driving. Too many Loonie toons out there. Poly pro is old hat, now they have these cool black ninja suits....... Unfortunatly I didn't get them as I deployed to Iraq 2 months ahead of my unit on the torch party ahead of the advance party and before they issued them.:mad:


Home now, going to work on the sleeper some tomorrow, Thursday - Saturday weather ain't looking good, Friday is the kids surgery so that's out but next week from sun - thurs looks perfect for the stretch to 38' long .

Picked up 10# of Lincoln E7018 1/8" today, I like Lincoln rod, burns nice and smooth, great flux, low splatter. Will get this rod baked in the oven at 500 - 600F for an hour or 2 so it's good and dry and bring out the old toaster oven for a holding oven and keep it at 150 - 200F, taking no chances with weld defects because of being sloppy about something I know better than to skip. Good dry rod is also 1000% easier to weld with than rod that's been left in an opened box in your toolbox or workbench soaking up moisture from the air.

Seats are way too tall, no surprise there. Going to call a couple places tomorrow for a quote on the bases. National Seating makes both 3" air ride and 2" fixed bases for the OBS (Old Body Style) cabs, as well as about any Domestic late model pickup.

Wanted the seats more for the armrests, quality and comfort more than for the air ride. Fabric holds up well over hundreds of thousands of miles too.

On closer inspection the Talladega LSO drivers seat (option on Pete's since 2001) is Bostrom and the Standard Pete seat is a National.

Another issue with air ride seats is I'll have to modify the seatbelts. Air ride seats are tethered to the floor and the seatbelts are bolted where the tethers bolt onto the seat. No biggie and the seat belt tethers are fairly inexpensive. The 3 point assemblies are the same style and mounting as used by Ford so no change needed there, just bolt them to the seat where they normally bolt to the floor, bolt tethers to the seat and bolt other end to floor, done, seatbelt mod takes longer to get out tools than to perform.

pmmjarrett
11-12-2008, 05:39 PM
Called on the seat bases for the F series cabs. $260 for air ride and $99 for a standard base. Think I'm going to make my own air ride low profile base for less than $10
Here are the seats.
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pmmjarrett
11-16-2008, 05:47 PM
Back on the job doing preparations for the frame stretch.

I've been drawing plans and speaking with another tow haul driver and decided to go with a 65%/35% bed ratio to the center of the rear axle which is a 133" frame stretch giving me a wheelbase of 310".

Before moving the new frame section in the shop, I took a few measurements out of curiosity and found the rear section of the frame that still has virgin factory cuts is the exact length I need to the center of the rear axle and will be able to use it without cutting there and still be able to bolt up the rear spring hangers without drilling holes. That's why you see it in the pics with the tail light end out of the shop. This also allows me the overhang I need without adding another butt splice on tail end making for a stronger beavertail.

I cut the ends of the trucks frame where needed to get rid of bad sections where somebody got a little too happy with a torch when they removed the last body before selling it too me.

Also had time to remove a section of the double frame reinforcement. I will not need a double reinforced frame for the light work I do. Will use the metal removed here to make the fish plates to strengthen the splice where the 2 frames are joined.

I am going to give a big kudo to Harbor Freight 4-1/2" cut off wheels. I opened a fresh 10 pack of them today, figured I'd use up at least 15-20 today...... Used only 4 to make two 15" cuts and two 12" cuts through 1/4" 50,000 psi structural steel. That's 54 linear inches of 1/4" steel with 4 discs on my electric grinder...... wonder what I'll need the other 3-4 packs of discs I have left in the drawer

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RVCamper
11-16-2008, 07:28 PM
Sweet cut off job! Wow looks like a plasma cutter did it!

Keep the pictures and progress coming.

pmmjarrett
11-16-2008, 09:31 PM
Sweet cut off job! Wow looks like a plasma cutter did it!

Keep the pictures and progress coming.

Thanks, wish I had plasma but plasma is even too crude for this part of the job. Cuts will have to be cleaned up within a few thousands of an inch tomorrow when we butt it up or it'll be dogtracking bad.

RVCamper
11-16-2008, 09:53 PM
Perhaps a laser would be more appropriate.. darn straight!

pmmjarrett
11-17-2008, 05:22 AM
Gonna use my laser and string line it too.

pmmjarrett
11-17-2008, 05:37 PM
Woo Hoooo!!!!

Much accomplished today. My truck is now ridiculously long with a short wheelbase with 19' of new frame behind the rear tires LOL.

We spent about 3 or 4 hrs just fitting and aligning the new section using jacks, clamps, chain hoists, cherry picker, string, grinders, prybars, ratchet straps and a BFH.

Tacked on the run off plates and welded it up inside and out and got some of the finish grinding done getting it ready to fish plate.

Pretty happy with todays progress and the new rails look great. Can't get much straighter than this.

Even managed to feed George a slice of Pizza after work and get a few shots of me working this time so it doesn't look like I'm working my slave too hard.... Yea, I'm the fuzzy one that looks like Santa in camo.

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pmmjarrett
11-17-2008, 05:43 PM
The rest of todays pics
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pmmjarrett
11-18-2008, 03:59 PM
Not too bad here today but the weather and hammering on the crossmembers is giving me bad headache. Got the old brackets stripped and swapped the axle crossmembers on the new section of frame. Was gonna ream the holes to 3/4" but I'm quitting for the day.

Found that Fleetpride in Raleigh is a distributor for Spicer and does custom Spicer drivelines in house. Had no problem getting through to talk to their machinist today, seems to share my ideas and know what he is talking about. Spicer components is what I want and that's where I'm going to take it. Hopefully have the truck drivable again next week.

pmmjarrett
11-19-2008, 05:19 PM
Do you ever have a day you feel like you got nowhere.

4 hrs and only managed to kill all 3 of my cordless drill batteries to ream twelve 5/8" holes to 3/4", drill out one stuck cotter pin (still have one to go, other 2 came out easy), remove 2 spring pins...... been pounding with a 4 lb sledge and a steel drift and PB blasting one for 3 hrs, won't budge, thankfully the other one with a stuck cotter pin moves free.

Letting the stuck spring pin soak in PB blaster overnight...... One way or the other it's coming out tomorrow.

Pins are going back together with anti sieze.

pmmjarrett
11-20-2008, 06:30 PM
Much accomplished today.

Stuck spring pin came out with heat, PB Blaster and some TLC from a 4 lb sledge..... I dunno why George wanted to swing the hammer while I held the drift.

Got the rest of the holes reamed to 3/4" and bolted all the brackets into place and rolled the rear axle into place. Axle is pinned into place and have good measurements for the new driveshaft will be just over 20' long.

And I DID use antisieze on all of the spring pins.

Need to pickup some 3/4 grade 8 hardware to bolt in the old crossmembers in the original portion of the frame.

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pmmjarrett
11-20-2008, 06:47 PM
Now for the fun stuff.

Casualties today

1. - Hole Hawg ate my brand spanking new 1/2" Dewalt drill bit.... Thankfully on the last hole for the shock mounts.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00495.jpg


2. - Yea George..... Yer da one dat didit.
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3. - Light duty gantry gave up when we did something with it it wasn't designed to do....... lift the back of the truck frame OOPS.. well we were using the cherry picker too at the tail but evidently not enough.... Worked fine until HE decided it would be better to lift with both chains moved inboard... so I'll blame that on him too LOL. Nobody hurt, nothing but a wooden board broken.
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jimtoo
11-20-2008, 06:50 PM
I'm sure George was just looking out for the old guy. It's a lot easier to hold a 1 pound drift than it is to swing away with a 4 pound hammer. He was just doing the heavy manual labor. :D

Thanks for keeping us posted on the progress of your stretch job. Looks like your doing a beautiful piece of work. You might just be in the wrong business.

I assume the drive shaft will be in several pieces, suspended with carrier bearings and not just one 20' shaft.

Keep posting the pictures, your doing great work.:D

(Well you were till I saw the broken hoist frame. At least no one hurt.)

Jim M

pmmjarrett
11-20-2008, 07:36 PM
I'm sure George was just looking out for the old guy. It's a lot easier to hold a 1 pound drift than it is to swing away with a 4 pound hammer. He was just doing the heavy manual labor. :D

Thanks for keeping us posted on the progress of your stretch job. Looks like your doing a beautiful piece of work. You might just be in the wrong business.

I assume the drive shaft will be in several pieces, suspended with carrier bearings and not just one 20' shaft.

Keep posting the pictures, your doing great work.:D

(Well you were till I saw the broken hoist frame. At least no one hurt.)

Jim M

OLD GUY! :mad: ....hail,HE'S the old guy w/ 7 or 8 years on me. Me, I'm just all busted up. No way I could wrench on trucks for a living anymore.

Driveshaft will be 4 piece with 3 carrier bearings. Hopefully get a chance to drop it off tomorrow morning.

Now the gantry was built for one thing, to lift the sleeper which only weighs a few hundred lbs. What happens when you leave a tempory structure in place, you forget what it is really capable of and eventually find it's limits.

Was trying to lift the frame at 3 points as we havn't put in the reinforcments on the butt splices yet....... How did that work...... Not too good. Ended up using the cherry picker to lift the entire back of the frame.

jimtoo
11-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Sorry,,None, looks are deceiving when it comes to age.:p

pmmjarrett
11-21-2008, 07:12 AM
Sorry,,None, looks are deceiving when it comes to age.:p

I know, kinda hit home the other day when I bought a coffee for the wife at McD's and they automaticly charged me for a "Senior Coffee" and I'm only 44

pmmjarrett
11-21-2008, 07:44 PM
Dropped the driveshaft off today for stretch and rebuild and ordered new rear shocks. Shocks were $137..........

Driveshaft quote was $1200.00 http://www.oilburners.net/forums/images/smilies/eek.gifhttp://www.oilburners.net/forums/images/smilies/Kick.gifShould be able to pick up both on wednesday. Kinda expected the new driveshaft was gonna run between $1000-$1500



Other than that, been baby sitting and playing video games all day so no work done on the truck.

pmmjarrett
11-24-2008, 06:34 PM
Was 60F today so I painted the doors for the sleeper, did a lot of planning for the bed and beavertail cuts and took care of a few odds and ends like replacing the 7/16" grade 8 spring pin bolt I broke with my impact the other day while George was supervising...... Hey, it's the supervisors fault when somebody else breaks something so I'll blame him fer that too. LOL

I'm changing the plans slightly to build the bed out to nearly 28' for the maximum allowed length of 40' for the truck. This will allow up to a 32' trailer on the bed with the 4' max overhang and be able to tow up to 31-32' when using the stinger extended for a maximum overall combination length of 75'

Basicly I'll be able to handle up to a couple of 28 series Northtrail, 280 series Sundance X or 27 series North Country travel trailers maxed out.

Forcast looks good this week so hopefully I'll get much done.

Doors painted
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Inside of vents sprayed flat black
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New spring pin retaining bolt..... Yep the frame needs a good cleaning before paint.
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irvin56
11-25-2008, 01:05 AM
Looks like it's coming together okay.
hope you have a great time driving the beast when you get it done.
Sounds like a lot of work for you guys, but you will know everything about it.
Better then buying off lot and wondering

pmmjarrett
11-25-2008, 10:38 AM
Looks like it's coming together okay.
hope you have a great time driving the beast when you get it done.
Sounds like a lot of work for you guys, but you will know everything about it.
Better then buying off lot and wondering


Yep, going pretty smooth albeit slowly.... Slow is smooth and smooth is fast LOL. I get plenty of seat time at 150,000 miles a year gotta make it comfy too.

It's a lot of work but this type of specialty truck can't be bought off a lot, they have to be built by yourself or hire everything out or find a used one and they are very scarce. I have until January to finish it.,which is the start of the peak season for shipping RV when the manufacturers crank up the factories after the holidays. If you went new and had one built you'ld easily be looking at an $85,000+ rig and a $2000 a month payment if you financed it.

Medium duty truck $60,000
Wheelbase modification $4000
Sleeper installed $7000
Tow/Haul Bed and equipment $14,000

Not the kind of rig to run in this economy. I am into mine for under $6000 right now and should be able to finish it up for about another $4000 - $5000.......... And it's paid for:D, no worries if it is parked because of slow freight.;)

dewwood
11-25-2008, 05:56 PM
Just curious about something, are you considering a way to put a 5th wheel hitch on the truck so your second unit could be a fiver? Maybe it is not feasable but would add more options. I realize it would have to be removeable for loading the front trailer. Just thinking about it as I follow your thread.

Looks like you are making good progress, keep the updates coming.

pmmjarrett
11-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Just curious about something, are you considering a way to put a 5th wheel hitch on the truck so your second unit could be a fiver? Maybe it is not feasable but would add more options. I realize it would have to be removeable for loading the front trailer. Just thinking about it as I follow your thread.

Looks like you are making good progress, keep the updates coming.

Yes, just not sure if I want to mount one on the 12' of overhang from the rear axle considering the tounge weight of fifth wheels. I do have a spare Putnam Firehawk II 23k fifth wheel and gooseneck that I am trying to figure out how to use... Mo Trailers does make a turn over fifth wheel for this application.


Moving forward.

Put the weather stripping and doors on the sleeper and lubed all of the locks and latches with white lithium grease while I was at it.
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Marked and cut the frame for the drop frame section of the beavertail. I still have to align the frame sections exactly where I want them but it's pretty close right now.
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Today's casualty. I smoked my freebie 4-1/2" grinder LOL. Boy did the smoke roll, thought it was on fire, I never smoked an electric motor this bad before. oh well, it came free with something I bought a year or 2 ago and I have abused it pretty badly so no big loss. Here's her "retirement" pic.
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And her replacement. A 10 amp Dewalt that set the budget back a Benjamin.
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snuffy
11-26-2008, 01:15 AM
I, too, had one of the cheapie grinders and burned up the brushes in it. Got a similar Dewalt and it's a beast. Beware of the cheap Chinese discs though. I was grinding some concrete and had one come apart. Talk about scary. Thank God for that blade guard. So now I only use the Norton or Dewalt brand discs.

pmmjarrett
11-26-2008, 09:48 AM
The way the grinder went up in smoke was rather spectacular LOL. No warning either, just siezed and "POOF" huge cloud of smoke.

I find the Norton discs last longer than the Dewalt discs, problem is the 3 hr round trip ride to get the Norton discs as I live in the middle of nowhere. The Harbor Freight 4-1/2" metal cutting discs I have had great luck with and never had one explode.

Blade Guards I usually remove because they are always in the way, I know it ain't a smart move. Plan to leave the one on the new Dewalt grinder as it's easy to reposition unlike the cheap grinders.

Also when I am cutting or grinding I use a full face welding helmet with a clear lens. Many years ago I was rushed to the emergency room after getting hit in the eye with a red hot grinding spark.... Yep I had safety goggles on too and it made it through a vent hole just right, embedded itself and scratched my cornea. Not fun, hurt like a somanabeach.

snuffy
11-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Not only eyes, but arteries might be severed too. One in the neck might do the trick.:eek:

pmmjarrett
11-27-2008, 08:07 AM
Cut the end of the frame off at 39'9". This leaves me just enough room for a 2"x4" reqtangular steel tube bumper I'm going to install oval LED tail lights in and 1" for a tail light guard and brackets for the pin on ramps to take it to the full 40'0"..... Might have to grind off a hair to leave room for paint LOL
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Cut one side of the actual 8 degree beavertail portion of the drop frame. Loading height to the top of the rear bumper is only 19.25"
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pmmjarrett
12-03-2008, 06:28 PM
Making progress. Got the last 2 crossmembers bolted in, installed and greased the new driveshaft and installed the new rear shocks. All hardware is grade 8 with real locknuts (not that nylock stuff) or locktite

Driveshaft was a bit of a pain as I had to modify 2 of the carrier bearing hangers because one shaft I needed was a longer than the longest tube they could get for a driveshaft and they had to make up the difference in the shafts at each end of the longest shaft. Not really a big deal as I knew this before they made the driveshaft but it was very time consuming.

Frame stretch is just about done. Still have to extend the brake lines, bleed the brakes, weld in the frame splice reinforcements, weld up the drop frame and run wiring and lights to the back and it's drivable.



Shaft held in place for measuring carrier bearing hanger modifications
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Look Ma... New invention.... flexible vibration dampening carrier bearing hangers LOL
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Midship hanger... Modified with a 7" section of left over frame rail.
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Front Hanger.....Modified using a section of a leftover crossmember and some 1/4" flat bar for gussets.
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Shocks in
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Gotta watch clearances. This was the brake line before I moved it. It now has 1/2" of clearance from the shock.
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jimtoo
12-03-2008, 08:17 PM
I'm not to sure how much torque that new improved vibration dampening carrier bearing hanger will take. You might have to take it easy on the hills. :D

Look Ma... New invention.... flexible vibration dampening carrier bearing hangers LOL
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pmmjarrett
12-03-2008, 09:15 PM
You mean I should'nt do a #0 grind on the fuel plate and drop some marine 370 injectors in the 12 valve Cummins:D

Oh man can you imagine the carnage of 20' of driveshaft whipping around. I'd say judging by some of the video on Youtube that there has to be some idiot out there that has at least tried running like this

jimtoo
12-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Well,,, if you do that,, let me know so I will not be in the area. I can't even imagine a shaft that long loose, after seeing what a 5 to 6 footer will do.

pmmjarrett
12-04-2008, 12:01 AM
:eek: What, you don't wanna test drive it with me in a few days.



Oh man, I can't begin to imagine it,,,,,, 20' 4 section shaft with one slip joint....... it would be ugly....I wonder how far the 4th shaft would fly when it when the slip spline came apart at 2000 RPM. That's what it is spinning in 4th gear at only 55 mph.

Thankfully you'll never see me on Youtube;)

jimtoo
12-04-2008, 12:17 AM
Yep.. I would love to test drive the monster with you. But, your up North and it's cold and I don't like cold weather, so I will stay here and wait for you to get down this way so I can drive it after it's all finished. Or maybe next June in Goshen at the Rally. Man...that's gonna be a monster on a turn.

Keep up the good work, it's really looking great.
Thanks for all the photos and keeping us updated.

Jim M

pmmjarrett
12-04-2008, 06:01 PM
North:p, I'm on about the same parrallel as the Texas panhandle 50 miles from the SC line, was 65F and sunny today....Oh and "U" turns are definatly out.



Started on the frame reinforcements for the splice. Manage to get one outside "L" bracket made and welded on. Ford recommends 2" x 1/2" slots spaced 6" apart in this type of reinforcement for extra weld surface but seeing how my frame and reinforcement plate looked like swiss cheese I decided to plug weld all the holes instead still accomplishing the same goal of extra surface to weld for extra strength.


Plate made and fitted to frame
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Need room for welds to stay below the radius of the flange. Ford Minimum is 1" from top of flange. Mine is 1-1/4"
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Swiss Cheese
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Stay 1" from corners when welding to eliminate possible stress risers and weld cracking
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Stay off flange radius when welding. NOTE: Reinforcement plate must be flush to frame and flanges, no gaps except at the radius where a gap is required.
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Finished reinforcement plate. No more Swiss cheese, Nice and smooth. It is stitch welded every 2" and all excess holes were plug welded. Do not weld these solid. Big mistake is people make a frame too stiff which leads to cracking, it has to be able to flex.
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pmmjarrett
12-05-2008, 04:36 PM
Did more running for parts and steel than work today.


Started insulating the sleeper for the Arctic temps up in the Great White North which is my preffered area to roam. Will help with the blistering heat in the deep south as well as deaden outside sound and vibration of the aluminum panels of the sleeper too.
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For those that havn't bought mild low carbon steel in a long time.... You're in for sticker shock. This is all $244.66 will get you these days
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22' of 3"x1/4" hot roll flat bar - A36 grade - for making new frame flanges on the beavertail cuts

2' of 4"x4"x1/4" square tubing - A500 grade - for the stinger hitch receiver

5' of 4" 5.4lb "C" channel - A572 grade - for mounting the stinger receiver

6' of 4"x3"x1/4" reqtangular tubing - A500 grade - for rear bumpers, tail light mounts, ramp mounts, and start of the beavertail


That's only 182 lbs of steel...... Roughly $1.34 lb and the local shop here doesn't charge for cutting to length either for customers like me who only need small quantities. They have a weld and machine shop so they use up small drops themselves and are pretty good at doing just that.

I asked them why they didn't have it gold plated for me before I picked it up.

nhunter
12-06-2008, 01:04 AM
How come you went with batt insulation vs spray foam? Might get better insulation with the foam. Just curious.

pmmjarrett
12-06-2008, 10:57 AM
A couple reasons.

I hate using the spray foam, that stuff goes everywhere you don't want it LOL.

There's a real possibility that I will eventually make the notch under the sleeper larger so I run a trailer tounge under the sleeper for larger trailers or to put multiple trailers on the bed. Batt will be much easier to remove and a lot less work to clean the aluminum frame.

Flamability - that's why I skipped sheets of foam too.

Fumes/smell

pmmjarrett
12-08-2008, 07:17 PM
Finally got the frame splice done. Both sides reinforced inside and out
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Started to weld the new flanges on the angle cut for the drop frame section. New steel is 1/4" x 3" A36 hot roll steel.
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Cut down edge of front corner to match frame radius...... Also tried my hand at a wide "shipyard weave" to lay in some metal for the transition....... Little bit rusty there.
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Shape roughed in with grinder
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00615.jpg


Smoooooooooooooth like it was meant to be.... I like doing metal sculpture
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00618.jpg

pmmjarrett
12-11-2008, 05:42 PM
Nice weather today.... 73F and raining hard. Have severe thunderstorm warnings, flash flood warnings and a tornado watch. Driveway and entrance to my back yard and shop gate are a little flooded.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00649.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00654.jpg


Worked on the rear bumpers cutting holes for the oval grommet style tail lights and back up lights. 4 lights in each bumper. 3 stop /turn / tail light and 2 reverse lamps, well beyond the minimum FMSCA requirements. Using this style light because they are well protected from damage playing with ramps or loading something or doing something stupid like backing into something.


Good measurements and layout is crucial for this type of lamp. Make the hole too big and they like to fall out. You want them tight but still easy to install and remove.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00629.jpg


A milling machine would sure be nice but I don't have one and am too cheap to hire it out. Drilled 3 7/8" holes at the end of each cutout with a step drill. I like step drills but they really ain't supposed to be used on 1/4" steel.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00623.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00626.jpg


Step drills sure make a nice clean hole and cut through steel fast. They are pricy but worth every penny.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00625.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00633.jpg


Cut out holes with a cross cut carbide burr on a die grinder and my 4-1/2" electric grinder
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00644.jpg


Nice clean finished hole
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00638.jpg


Perfect fit
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00641.jpg

jbeletti
12-11-2008, 10:13 PM
What patience you have Mike. very nice work on the tail light holes.

Jim

pmmjarrett
12-11-2008, 11:02 PM
One shot, one kill Jim. Time is what I have the most of right now.

This is overkill here but it's the way I want it down the road as I eventually turn the truck into a rolling Christmas tree. It's a lot easier to carve out the holes now than after it's installed. Eventually it'll have all LED lights.....the really bright ones with 60 LEDs in them, I want a blind man to be able to see me.

That 3" x 4" x 33-3/4" piece of 1/4" wall tubing is $46.20 x 2ea = $92.40 + 6.75% sales tax = $98.64....... Don't need a Benjamin worth of scrap metal decorating the shop.

By the time I finish carving out the rest of the holes and welding on the end caps (which will also have holes for 2" marker lights), the protective lip around each rear light and the ramp mounts....... I figure I'll have about 30 hrs total in these 2 bumpers.

pmmjarrett
12-14-2008, 08:00 PM
Did some parts shopping today at Northern Tool and walked out a little poorer after getting more welding rod, new welding gloves, an inexpensive brake controller, a 7 pin RV plug for the truck, correct color wiring for a 7 pin plug so there is no guess work if it needs to be repaired later, heat shrink tubing, electrical tape, a couple lights, Norton 1/4" grinding discs, a grade 8 7/8x4-1/2" pin for the stinger receiver and some 1/16" coated cable to make lanyards out of so I don't lose my pins and spring clips in snow, mud, storm drains & gravel when taking them out to set the truck up for loading and unloading.

Finally finished welding and grinding the drop frame section today. Wondered why it was using so much rod and taking so daygum long to weld it until I did the math.

There's nearly 50' of weld bead on this section. Glad that's over with.


New frame flange tacked into place.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00655.jpg


New flanges welded up solid inside and out.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00660.jpg


Grinding done !!!!!
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00666.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00667.jpg

pmmjarrett
12-15-2008, 05:56 PM
Working on finishing up the rear bumpers/lightbars/ramp holders. This is a slightly complex assembly each made up of 11 pieces of steel so it's time consuming..... ETA to completion is 1 - 2 more days.


Finished cutting out holes for oval lights
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00673.jpg


This is how it will be set up each side
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00674.jpg


Making end cap for bumper
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00679.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00682.jpg


Test fit perfect
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00681.jpg


Pieces are tacked together. The 3/4" schedule 40 pipe is for the pin on ramp mounts. Center is cut down so the ramp slides into place and is easy to line up for the pin. 1" was left at each end of the cut out and a piece of 1/2" schedule 40 pipe is pressed into each end and welded, this pipe will also be used on the ramps. Pin size for the ramps is 1/2" diameter.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00686.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00688.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00690.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00691.jpg


Ugggggg!!!! Still have 9 more of these gussets to cut out.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00694.jpg

leftyf
12-15-2008, 06:54 PM
In picture #6....what are you using the hamburger press for?

You guys from the 82d really make me mad....throwing this thing together in 15 minutes and still having time to build your mother-in-law a house between getting off work and dinner.

And, I thought I was hot stuff when I drove a nail in straight on the 2d try!

Looks good, man.

pmmjarrett
12-15-2008, 07:19 PM
In picture #6....what are you using the hamburger press for?

You guys from the 82d really make me mad....throwing this thing together in 15 minutes and still having time to build your mother-in-law a house between getting off work and dinner.

And, I thought I was hot stuff when I drove a nail in straight on the 2d try!

Looks good, man.

Hamburger Press :confused:..... What in the wide world of sports are you talking about LOL........ Or should I ask who spiked the punchNone:D


BTW, Ya don't wanna see me driving nails in wood, it's enough to make a grown man cry....... I make Gilligan look like a cabinet maker.

Ray LeTourneau
12-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Mike, if you keep adding metal to that rig are you gonna have any capacity left to haul a trailer on it.:eek::confused::D:D

pmmjarrett
12-16-2008, 05:17 AM
LOL, :D

I've barely started adding metal. Still need another 750# of steel to build the bed, 200# for ramps...... Then add, winches, my toolbox, my aux tank, my gear and 191 gallons of liquid gold :eek:.

Truck should scale out about 12k - 13k empty, GVW is 26k, I think I'll actually run legal for once;)

snuffy
12-16-2008, 06:31 AM
What's the insurance on this beast going to cost? In this down economy, will you be able to make a better living?

pmmjarrett
12-16-2008, 07:37 AM
What's the insurance on this beast going to cost? In this down economy, will you be able to make a better living?

Comp, Collision and non trucking liability will run about $180 - $200 a month. Cargo insurance is provided by mt company, I'm responsible for the first $1000 in damages and that money is already in escrow.

As far as a living goes, I just do this to live beyond my pension which we can live on. Have the opprtunity now to get some of the finer things in life we've always wanted without breaking the budget.

I will have a higher proffit margin for only a slight increase in operating costs dragging 2 - 3 at a time instead of one at a time and be able to stay busier through the late summer and fall when freight only seems to run at the end of the month.

I only have my insurance costs, cell phone and air card bills that are extra to cover vs not having the business. The truck is paid for so if need be I can simply park it and weather the economy. I don't expect things to pick up until 2010 and I think this is a great time to work toward expanding / improving a business without losing revenue that simply isn't there right now.

The market is also moving toward smaller lighter units which the manufacturers don't want to ship one at a time. There are only a handfull of trucks like mine vs the thousands of pickups doing single tow so I think demand will be much higher for my tow haul.

CrazyScotsman
12-16-2008, 10:57 AM
PMMj.
The Dodge 3500 that you have, it wouldn't be blue coloured by any chance!
If it is, were you running with 2 other rv haulers on Will Rogers turnpike a few weeks ago?. All pulling TT.
The one I saw was blue with decal on back fender Cummins 600 I think
Cheers Ken

pmmjarrett
12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
PMMj.
The Dodge 3500 that you have, it wouldn't be blue coloured by any chance!
If it is, were you running with 2 other rv haulers on Will Rogers turnpike a few weeks ago?. All pulling TT.
The one I saw was blue with decal on back fender Cummins 600 I think
Cheers Ken


Nope, Silver this is my truck.... Esiest way to spot me in a crowd is the deer slayer up front and the TAZ mudflaps on all 4 corners.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/2004%20Ram%203500/IMG00133.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/2004%20Ram%203500/IMG00077.jpg

CrazyScotsman
12-16-2008, 02:30 PM
This was a blue truck. I got to see a helluva lot of the drivers side as I tried to pass it in my 62 mph Yellow freight truck.Nothing worse having a truck that will only do 62 on the flat, and get hung out in the hammer lane forever. I had one truck driver hold me out in left lane for 5 miles the other week, I would slow down, he slowed down, I speed up, he speed's up. What ever has happened to courtesy ?
Anyhoo your project is coming along.
Safe travels. Ken

pmmjarrett
12-16-2008, 04:17 PM
That's one thing I won't do to another driver in a governed truck. I've been in your shoes.

Me I like to set the cruise between 58 and 63 and when I end up in a drag race with one of those dragnfly's, I'll bump the cruise up or down a couple notches to change my speed until there is a little distance between us then go back to business as usual.

Stay safe. Mike

pmmjarrett
12-18-2008, 08:00 PM
Busy day today. Cleaned up the shop a bit and had a customer over that bought some stuff from me on Evilbay, then he bought even more stuff that he saw and liked.... Hate when that happens.


Finished welding up the left bumper.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00695.jpg


Squared it up and welded it to the frame.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00704.jpg


Had to see what the lights looked like in it.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00707.jpg


Here's a good look at the channel for the pin on ramps.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00711.jpg


Got the right side tacked up. Will finish it up tomorrow after I get back from Northern Tool to pick up 10 more lbs of welding rod.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00714.jpg

CrazyScotsman
12-19-2008, 12:44 PM
It's slowly but surely taking shape. Good work, just wish I could do things like that. I just inherited a metal lathe that was my dad in laws. I have no idea what to do with it.
Anyhoo it's coming along. I'll look for it on the road when it's done.
cheers Ken

pmmjarrett
12-19-2008, 07:11 PM
Ya Ken, it's actually starting to look like a truck again instead of some Frankenstein Redneck contraption.



Had to make a pit stop at Northern Tool and get 10 more lbs of welding rod today.... Took Mama with me and she talked me into finally spending a little on a new welding hood. They had these automatic darkening hoods with shift on the fly 9-13 shade lenses on sale for $45. WOW what a difference it makes in productivity and being able to see what you are doing. Now the old hood is permanently designated a full face grinding shield...... Could have done without the cheesy flame graphis though.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00720.jpg


Got the right side tail light / bumper assembly welded up.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00719.jpg


Ground down.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00724.jpg


And welded on.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00729.jpg


Started work on the stinger receiver. Drilled 7/8" hole for the grade 8 7/8" pin.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00733.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00737.jpg


Cut the 4" channel to length
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00739.jpg


Made the holes for the 7 way RV plug
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00740.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00744.jpg

CrazyScotsman
12-19-2008, 09:09 PM
Just think how cool you'll look wearing your "Pimped" out welding hood, you'll fit right in with the NASCAR crowd. LOL
When you get all the chicken lights on that truck, you'll be looking like Johnny Big rigger LOL.

pmmjarrett
12-20-2008, 12:22 AM
As a straight truck I'd have to name it " Chicken Hawk" LOL.

Mabey I should paint this on the sides of the hood
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/hawk001.jpg


And put this one on the back of the sleeper
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/hawk031.jpg



At least it won't look like I'm........

Just Beginning Holdining Up Nationwide Traffic

or a

Slow Wagon In Fast Traffic

None







Wonder how many lights I can get on that hamburger press

CrazyScotsman
12-20-2008, 06:56 AM
SWIFT.. Sure wish I finished training.
DIGBY.. Did I go broke yet
DIGBY backwards ..yes by god I did

What colour are you painting the cab and sleeper ?

pmmjarrett
12-20-2008, 10:55 AM
SWIFT.. Sure wish I finished training.
DIGBY.. Did I go broke yet
DIGBY backwards ..yes by god I did

What colour are you painting the cab and sleeper ?


LOL

It's already done, white. Cab had fresh paint when I bought it and I painted the sleeper to match 2 months ago here's the post (//heartlandowners.org/showpost.php?p=52680&postcount=20)

CrazyScotsman
12-20-2008, 03:50 PM
Once it's on the road i'm sure I won't be able to miss the " Chicken hawk ", passing me.
Cluck, cluck rv truck

pmmjarrett
12-20-2008, 07:04 PM
LOL I'll try to leave some paint on yer doors when I take it for a walk in the Monfort lane.None

OK, I gotta break out the airbrush now, been itching to do some custom paintwork on something. The more I think about it the more I like it. Foghorn Leghorn was always my favorite cartoon character and my white canvas is perfect for those pics. Gonna have to play with photoshop in a little bit.



Got the 3-1/2" stinger receiver welded up.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00747.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00749.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00752.jpg


Made the bracket for the safety chains.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00755.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00757.jpg


Welded the stinger receiver into place and started to put the new flanges on the beavertail portion of the frame.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00760.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00766.jpg

pmmjarrett
12-20-2008, 07:40 PM
OK here ya go.


The "Chicken Hawk"
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/ChickenHawk.jpg

jpmorgan37
12-20-2008, 09:14 PM
I can't wait to see the sleeper when you get it done.

John

pmmjarrett
12-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Be careful what you ask for LOLNone

Sleeper
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/Foghorn.jpg

jpmorgan37
12-21-2008, 12:07 AM
Mike,

You got me on that one. Just want to tell you how much I've enjoyed following your step by step progress description and especially the pictures (I read pictures a lot better than I read writing).

John

irvin56
12-21-2008, 12:48 AM
love the paint job. :cool:
Much much talent
YOU must to good at EVERYTHING None
Have to ask your wife:D:D

pmmjarrett
12-21-2008, 02:08 AM
Thank you John. I enjoy sharing what I can with everybody here. Making a few good friends along the way too.




Irvin, ya gotta love photoshop........ Oh and I don't kiss and tell;)

CrazyScotsman
12-21-2008, 05:53 AM
I'll better stay out of the Monfort lane then. Not heard that term used in a long time.
Don't even think that they are still in business.
That'll look good on the back of the sleeper, I really think you need to put a 120" sleeper on like the Reliable car haulers have.
Cheers Ken
Legacy Sleepers - ARI - American Reliance Industries, Co. (http://www.legacysleepers.com/)
oem sleeper conversions, aftermarket truck sleepers, Indiana used sleepers for (http://www.trucksleeper.com/about-Indiana-Custom-Truck.htm)

pmmjarrett
12-21-2008, 10:37 AM
I got my start in trucking hauling swinging beef in the 80's, used to run the Hunt's Point 500 every sunday night. Drove for Silvey Refrigerated Express..... Yep, I was a "Junior Meathauler" LOL. 1st truck was a '79 cabover cornbinder with a flying 290 and a 10 speed castrated to 58 mph.

When I bought my '85 Ford LTL 9000 with a 400 CAT, 13 over and 3.73's I could pass the Monfort and Abilene trucksNone They used to threaten to tell my boss my truck would go that fast..... He already knew and paid me handsomely for the really hot stuff nobody else could get delivered on time.

Of course it didn't too take long before a Montana trooper found out how fast it was either:eek:..... I was able to stop, grab my permits, log book, bingo card and registration and was standing at the back of the trailer waiting for him to catch up to me..... Hey when you know you are dead in the wrong ya might as well just stop and face the music....

He didn't even get out of the cruiser, just opened the window and said "ya got everything, have a seat"

I still have that ticket boxed up here somewhere.


I'll just say Tacoma, WA to Miles City, MT is a 10-1/2 hr drive and that I won't do that again.

pmmjarrett
12-21-2008, 07:42 PM
We'll start these two posts with a smile.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00775.jpg


Making lanyards with 1/16" coated cable and using 1/4-20 stainless nuts for swedges. These lanyard will help save me a from Murphy's law and my own poor memory. For these lanyards, using nuts is fine and I inherited a bunch of these SS 1/4" nuts so I gotta use them for something. I won't do something like this on winch cable. The welded on loops are a piece of chain link.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00780.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00785.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00777.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00789.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00790.jpg


Fabricated the mount for the ICC identification marker lamps, these lights are required on trucks and trailers ofer 80" wide.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00812.jpg


Also fabricated the mount for the center channel ramp.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00816.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00814.jpg



To be continued.........

pmmjarrett
12-21-2008, 07:51 PM
......... Continued

Fabricated the ramp pins from 1/2" steel rod
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00797.jpg


Drill and champher one end
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00800.jpg


90* bend on the other
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00802.jpg


In place
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00795.jpg

Yep, lanyard for that clip too. Can't put one on the rod. They have to be stowed.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00792.jpg


Putting things into perspective. Frame is finally complete. Now it's time for wiring, brake lines, bed etc.................
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00804.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00819.jpg

CrazyScotsman
12-21-2008, 09:11 PM
You got all that done today ? Only thing I got done today was make pancakes for breakfast, jump start one of my pickups so daughter who is up visiting can have a vehicle to use while she's here. It's amazing how 4 degree temps can drain a battery on a vehicle that was just used 2 days ago.
Can't forget getting dragged around the stores shopping for a bike for grand daughter's xmas pressie. Now we shall see if she forgets the bike like she does her violin and some other things, poor wee thing has " oldtimers " at the ripe old age of 11 LOL.
What you got done looks good, I really like that Smiley face. LOL
Cluck cluck rv truck. Cheers Ken.

pmmjarrett
12-21-2008, 09:25 PM
LOL

I forgot to eat breakfast and lunch. I don't get hungry and I forget to eat until I get a headache from not eating.

I have an 11 y/o and she has a room full of stuff she forgets she has.

pmmjarrett
12-22-2008, 11:02 PM
Brrrrrrrr cold today, hard to get motivated..... in the 30's LOL

I did mount the brake controller and have drawn up the wiring harness. Spent the rest of the day playing with my dogs, surfing the net and playing on Pogo.com



Wiring diagram. I'm putting the trailer running lights and ground on their own fused circuit vs drawing on the trucks original harness. This gives me a courtesy switch for the tail lights without shutting off the headlights and takes the extra load off the factory headlight switch and wiring.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/wiringdiagram.jpg

Bob&Patty
12-22-2008, 11:38 PM
Mike, I am just amazed at the work you are doing. After reading some of the latest posts, You, Crazyscot and I have somethings in common. I was at one time an owner/operator. Had a 72 Fruitcar, 86" cab, 290 cumalong, turned up to a 350 but pulled like a 400. Had a 3.73 rear, RTO915 trans. It was an old "Willis Shaw" tractor. I did have the clock at 90 several times but not many on bias-ply tires:eek:. Hauled alot of fruit and anything I could get in the ol' refer. Keep up the good work. Bob :D

pmmjarrett
12-23-2008, 12:32 AM
Thanks Bob.


Yea they don't make trucks like they used too....... Thank God.


You used to actually have to drive a truck and read a map and figure out what route you wanted to take instead of just holding the steering wheel waiting for the computer to tell you where to turn.

Me, I'd never go back to a reefer or dry van. Specialized freight is actually fun and people want the stuff and often are waiting for you when you get there....... unlike the 20th load of toilet paper to a grocery warehouse or another load of lettuce to the produce market where you get the pleasure of waiting 4 hrs past your appointment time to get unloaded.

CrazyScotsman
12-23-2008, 06:05 AM
Cold in the 30's ???????? Get real, that is a heatwave, we were at 3 yesterday am, 24 for high. Freezing rain on the menu today. Thank god I'm off work till the 30TH, just wish I was old enough to retire., only 15 more years till I get a pension, that's if it's still there by then.
Bob I started out driving truck in 1978 in the UK. and Europe, started in a 1949 Bedford. Old crash box, gas engine, seat was a piece of foam on a metal box, back of seat was a curved piece of metal with foam about 4" wide. You missed a gear, you stopped and started over again. God help you if you were heavy and going up a hill. Ahhh the good old days. Please don't bring them back. lol
I must say though best truck I ever drove was the 1999 Volvo 770 I bought in Dec.98 It had a 500 Detroit, 13 over and 3:70 rears. It was like riding in a Cadillac. It had a dinette table and a couch either side that folded into a bed. I a regular house hold coffee pot sitting on the table, would have the pot on going down the road, and a drop would hardly get spilt. Smooth riding truck. I put a team in that truck, as we used to haul fresh cut flowers out of Oxnard CA. They wanted a Large car, more chicken lights and chrome, so in 2000 I bought them a 2001 KW 900L same motor , rear ends and gears as the Volvo. What a piece of junk that was. First trip I took it out myself. I was laying in sleeper in a rain storm, I got soaked, it leaked everywhere. After that got repaired the team got their Large car and I took the Volvo. By the end of the first week they wanted the Volvo back.
If I ever go back to being an O/O again I will only drive the truck myself. Employees tend to tear stuff up,they don't give a rats ar** about how they treat the equipment.
Cheers Ken

bill40
12-23-2008, 08:56 AM
Well guys I guess this might date me but on the day I got married my company we on strike. My grandad had a small freigt company and offered ne a drive. The old Autocar lack a few of the things you are all talking about. No air ride seats no split shits and what was power anything. We did have a radio,AM.
Got to say picking up a load of furniture in NY was a real pleasure, OH Yes we had to load the stuff our selves. I must say Pop paid well and after eleven weeks of winter and the AutoCar I was in better shape than when Uncle Sam trained me.
Great Job on that rig Mike!!!
MERRY CHRITMAS TOO ALL
Bill

bill40
12-23-2008, 09:00 AM
Sorry About The Miss Spells, Old Person Trying To Do Two Things At Once!!!

Bob&Patty
12-23-2008, 11:22 AM
Well guys, I guess we have all "been there done that". The only truck I wish I still had was a 52 Sterling. I was going to put a glider kit under the cab and drive it. But money got tight in the early 80's so I sold it. It was really a cool truck. It still had the "rocking chair" drivers seat, 5 & 3 trans, page & page suspention, 160 cummins, and even still had the wood in the frame rails. I always thought it would looked good painted maroon with black fenders and roof, 13' straight stacks, and a double wide sleeper. Just a dream of years ago. Bob:D

CrazyScotsman
12-23-2008, 12:29 PM
Bill40.. AM radio, you were riding first class. That old Bedford I drove was RAF ( Royal Air Force ) issue, so no AM radio in that, but it did have a turret cover on the roof that always seemed to blow off when traveling down the motorway in the good old British rain. Summer you sweated like a pig, winter time you about froze to death in it.
Cheers Ken

pmmjarrett
12-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Glad to see this bring back some memories. Love a good story.


27 days left to finish pack out and head to Elkhart area.


Good start on the wiring today. All joints are being soldered and shrink wrapped, all wiring will be protected with a plastic split loom and then taped up like a factory harness. Also using the correct color wire where I can.

For electrical and electronic soldering use Rosin core solder, acid core solder is corrosive.


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Big mess of spaggetti
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Brake sensor is wired
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Blunt wire ends soldered in for future Chicken lights
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00840.jpg

CrazyScotsman
12-23-2008, 09:21 PM
Now i'm lost, there is no way in he** I can make sence of wiring, my electrical skills are changing a light bulb, even then I need 2 people to help, one to tell me which way to screw it in, the other to turn me. That way it gets done right.
looks good. Cheers Ken

caddojay
12-23-2008, 10:11 PM
I am very impressed and now have truck envy as well as mechanical envy. How are the ramps going to be operated? Surely, not just muscled-up, you're too creative for that old technology. You're going to have to start a TV show for all of us "wannabe's".

beardedone
12-23-2008, 10:36 PM
That is a great looking job you are doing and certainly reflects a lot of skill. Some of the guys are talking older trucks. Well my dad had a little trucking company in Victoria and he had Austin trucks, 2 & 3 tons only, which were used for furniture moving. There never were a lot of them in Canada.

pmmjarrett
12-23-2008, 11:36 PM
Thanks all.

Man I'd love to mate an old restored truck cab on this chassis. That would be cool. I love the look of old iron.


Ramps I ain't quite figured out yet. Will be some muscle involved. I plan to stow them between the frame rails. Sliding them off the frame is the easy part, putting them away is the hard part.

I do have an extra 2000 lb winch I'm going to mount on the chassis to help unload the trailers, just use it enough to pull it off the flat and onto the beavertail and get it started down hill where the big winch takes over to lower it the rest of the way.

Can use this winch to help muscle them back up.

One problem is the shear length needed to load trailers, because of their overhang and stuff like steps on models with rear doors, the ramps on these trucks need to be 12' - 16' long

I'd love to be able to push a button and have the ramps telescope out like a ladder on a fire truck.

CrazyScotsman
12-25-2008, 11:27 AM
pmmj.. Are you having a day of rest from the wee project ?
Merry Christmas..... Ken

Niles
12-25-2008, 03:15 PM
You ought to go to Nick Russell's blog, he meet with a guy that restored a old drop deck trailer into a camper and pulls it with a White semi, single axle from the 50 t's.

pmmjarrett
12-27-2008, 06:53 AM
Been taking a few days rest from the wee project.

Have the dually hooked to the 5vr to see my FIL, oldest daughter and grandbaby.

Gonna have to thrash on it hard for 3 weeks to finish it on time when I get back.

CrazyScotsman
12-27-2008, 08:32 AM
Well, enjoy your visit with the family. I've had all 3 daughters and grand daughter here for Christmas, first time in 5 years we have all been together for the holidays. It has been really nice, expensive, but nice.
Enjoy........ all the best. Ken

jbeletti
12-27-2008, 10:57 AM
Travel safe Mike. You deserve the break. Hope to see you in January.

pmmjarrett
12-30-2008, 11:33 AM
I'm BAAAAACK...... Was a good trip. Time to get back to work.

Scored a nice Milemarker SI9500 winch off craigslist locally this morning.
Specs - rated for 9500 lbs and has 100' of 3/8" cable. Good match for dragging 4000 - 6000 lb trailers onto the bed without killing the winch.

This guy spent a lot of money on accessories too. Got the wireless remote, neoprene cover, some extra big honkin' hook, work lights and a 2" receiver mount too.

All for $400 :-)

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Time to get my butt back in the shop and get busy now.... so Jim gets fed at least once in January LOL.

pmmjarrett
12-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Took everything the guy had so carefully assembled apart to fit it to my application. Glad I did too. He said he had used it 3 times but I'd bet it wasn't on any hard pull. The welds that were on there looked like they used a 90 amp flux core welder and had no penetration. I was able to basicly knock the base completely apart with a 4 lb sledge and minor cutting of the welds. That would be ugly with a trailer half way up the ramp because gravity sugs.

Fabricated a new mount. winch is mounted curb side with easy access and close to the battery box. Cable will run under the sleeper to a pully and then come back down the center channel.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00871.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00875.jpg


Mounted the winch.
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Opened the cover to the solenoid. Several loose screws here and I need to re route the small wires for the remote as the way they were routed, occassional contact with the cable had chaffed them. Will push them through the grommets for the big cables when I finish wiring it up. One reason I took this picture is so I know which small wire goes where when I redo the small wiring properly.
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Started work on the mounts for the center channel. They will be bolted to the frame crossmembers through exisiting holes. This design will keep the channel as low as possible down in the frame and I won't be welding on the frame crossmembers. You ain't supposed to weld on the crossmembers either.
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CrazyScotsman
01-01-2009, 12:23 PM
Do me a favour Mike, can you bottle up some of that energy that you have doing all these projects, and send me some. LOL
Heck if things go the way they are going, I may have to start hauling RV's ( That is if anyone has a job to buy them ) for a living. Big change coming in March at work, looks like a lot of us drivers will on the unemployment line. It's great, we had to vote on a 10% wage decrease, now they spring this on us.
Mike, that Curt Q5 hitch you have, is it any good ? I saw a good price on Evil-Bay and at J C Whitney on them.
Happy New year and keep up the good work.. Ken.....

irvin56
01-01-2009, 06:02 PM
I remembered in you post that you needed around 12 foot or more ramp lenght??

How you loading, Along side truck, on bed under trailers axles??

Just asking as The gin pole and bed trucks had some setups to load skid shacks and trailers. for the oil patch rig moves and camp jobs
just wondering if I could give you a few ideas they used for ramps and how they useded their winchs to load.
CONSIDERING you are mounting one, and prefabing you own unit. any mods will be best know with open frame.

Are you putting on a flat bed or just rails for axles to ride on??

pmmjarrett
01-01-2009, 07:06 PM
Do me a favour Mike, can you bottle up some of that energy that you have doing all these projects, and send me some. LOL
Heck if things go the way they are going, I may have to start hauling RV's ( That is if anyone has a job to buy them ) for a living. Big change coming in March at work, looks like a lot of us drivers will on the unemployment line. It's great, we had to vote on a 10% wage decrease, now they spring this on us.
Mike, that Curt Q5 hitch you have, is it any good ? I saw a good price on Evil-Bay and at J C Whitney on them.
Happy New year and keep up the good work.. Ken.....

I'm running out of steam faster than I can make it.

Don't like to hear of people losing their jobs, I sincerely hope you dodge the bullet. Worst time ever to get into hauling RVs right now. Many guys losing their hindparts in this business as slow as it is right now, especially doing the single tow with a pickup or driveaway division.

I like my Curt Q5, it's a good hitch and very, very popular with RV transporters like myself. Bought mine off etrailer.com

pmmjarrett
01-01-2009, 07:11 PM
I remembered in you post that you needed around 12 foot or more ramp lenght??

How you loading, Along side truck, on bed under trailers axles??

Just asking as The gin pole and bed trucks had some setups to load skid shacks and trailers. for the oil patch rig moves and camp jobs
just wondering if I could give you a few ideas they used for ramps and how they useded their winchs to load.
CONSIDERING you are mounting one, and prefabing you own unit. any mods will be best know with open frame.

Are you putting on a flat bed or just rails for axles to ride on??

Trailer will be winched up the back of the truck. ramps for the wheels and a center track ramp for the tounge jack with a wheel placed on it.

Loading them on a skid and winching them up like a camp shack would be slick but I wouldn't be able to keep the bed height low enough as some travel trailers are over 11' tall.

My next few posts will start to clear things up as I started building the bed today.

pmmjarrett
01-01-2009, 07:22 PM
Wiring harness is pretty much done. All wires in looms and looms are taped up just like the factory did it. Best part is it all worked when I tested it.
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Blunt wire ends for the trailer plug that will be installed after I paint the chassis and bed.
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Getting busy building the bed and monts for fenders over the rear tires. The bed itself is 98" wide and when I add the rub rails it will be 102". When loaded, the trailer tires will be just behind the trucks tires. Needed to do this for trailers that are over 10'6" tall as most of the longer trailers I can load are over 10'6"
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Just enough clearance for the tires to move their 3" of suspension travel which is all there is on this truck.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG00913.jpg

irvin56
01-01-2009, 09:28 PM
:eek:

Thats a mean chunk of iron sticking in that tire :DLOLLLLL

Hope you got a warranty for it

your modification is looking good

pmmjarrett
01-01-2009, 09:52 PM
:eek: That does look nasty LOL. That's the last thing I need to do is destroy a really good $300 tire..... already have to replace both steers to pass inspection, rears are like new.

That's all thats left of one of the 20' sticks of 4.1 lb 3" channel, was using it for a template to notch the bed crossmember channels to fit the into the bed sides.

CrazyScotsman
01-02-2009, 06:38 AM
How easy or difficult is that going to be to change a tyre with that metal around it .

pmmjarrett
01-02-2009, 09:09 AM
How easy or difficult is that going to be to change a tyre with that metal around it .

Not hard at all. The bottom of the channel over the tire is about even with the tread on top of the tire.

CrazyScotsman
01-02-2009, 10:07 AM
Not hard at all. The bottom of the channel over the tire is about even with the tread on top of the tire.


I see, I guess the angle the photo was taking from, makes it look like the metal was lower. :o

pmmjarrett
01-02-2009, 08:35 PM
Here's a good side shot of the tire straight on. When I eventually replace these tires I will be putting on 225/70R-19.5 which is one size smaller and gives me a little more clearance.
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Put in a good days work on the bed today.


Got all the crossmembers in and welded up
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Welded all the 14 gauge diamond deck plate on.
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Used the leftover deck plate for steel fenders to contain a blowout. If you've ever driven a big truck you know it's gonna happen, it's not a matter of "if" you'll have a blowout, it's a matter of "when" it'll happen and Murphy's Law says it'll happen when you are loaded, in the worst possible weather, in the middle of nowhere and when nobody is open to fix it..... Didn't want to waste an ounce of that gold plated stuff either.
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This side is almost done. Need one more piece of angle to stiffen the deck plate on the beavertail and the rub rail.

CrazyScotsman
01-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Now I see how is easy it will be to change the wheel. especially with smaller ones on there. That picture gave a better angle, either that or I'm blind LOL.
Well saw it in black and white yesterday at work, that they are doing away with my job and other guy who works with me. It still has to be voted on by the union . Huge changes happening with the company I work for. I just hope it doesn't go through, if it does I'm sure I'll find something else.
Cheers, Ken

pmmjarrett
01-04-2009, 05:40 PM
Too bad ya can't send me a ballot. Good luck. If ya get the boot and want to seriously look into RV transporting, gimme a shout and I'll give ya the straight scoop so ya don't set yerself up for failure...... Of course unemployment bennies prolly pay better than transporting LOL....and if you go out of business you don't get to collect unemployment.


Getting creative keeping things lined up and straight as metal shrinks and moves when you weld it. This side bed rail had moved straight back 1/4" before I could get the last piece tacked in. Was wondering for a moment why the last piece of the side rail at the rear didn't fit. All good now.
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Keeping the crossmembers straight and tight to the frame to be tacked up.
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Bed frame and crossmembers all tacked into place
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This is the framework under the fenders, forgot to show this when I did the other side.
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Started on the rub rails, cut 26 of these little buggers..... Lucky 13 for each side.
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Tacked them into place.
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Started on the rail itself. Decided to quit for the day after having to cut these twice because I measured the angle wrong and ended up 1/2" short on BOTH pieces I made and ended up making new pieces. DOH!!!!
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caddojay
01-04-2009, 06:25 PM
Just amazing. I knew that someday I'd wish I had been more interested in shop class...instead of 16 year old girls!

CrazyScotsman
01-04-2009, 08:09 PM
Measure twice. CUT ONCE

pmmjarrett
01-04-2009, 08:11 PM
Just amazing. I knew that someday I'd wish I had been more interested in shop class...instead of 16 year old girls!

Never took shop class in school, didn't learn to weld until I was 19........... Was too busy chasing girls;)None

pmmjarrett
01-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Measure twice. CUT ONCE

:p Hail I measure it 3 times. Measurement was right, dead on at 35" with a 20* angle..... just marked the angle the wrong way and made 35" the long side of the cut instead of the short side.......twice:mad:...... OOPS.

At least it was the cheaper flat bar which I have plenty of and not the channel which I have no room for error on.

pmmjarrett
01-05-2009, 09:11 PM
Getting down to crunch time. 14 days left to finish, pack and depart and only have about 50 items left on my never ending "to do" list..... you know the one where you cross one item out and add at least 2 more.


Been burning rod for about 11 hrs today welding the left side bed up. With a clear head this morning I was able to salvage yesterdays oops and use the piece at the rear of the truck only wasting only about 2" of steel on both pieces.

Got the rub rail completely welded on the left side.
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Got the deck plate welded on the left side.
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Hoping to have all of the metal fabrication done and get it painted by thursday, button up the electrical on friday and finish the interior and sleeper this weekend so I have a week to pack it and iron out any misc items that need to be taken care of.

jmgratz
01-05-2009, 09:13 PM
Now it is starting to look like something special.

pmmjarrett
01-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Thank you.

I'm liking the way it's turning out, can't wait to see it out of the shop in paint.

Tom of Ypsi
01-05-2009, 10:46 PM
Sure would be great if Heartland would let you bring in a coach with your truck for the Heartland Rally in Goshen. We could see it in person and put a face with a name in person. Good job BTW

pmmjarrett
01-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Sure would be great if Heartland would let you bring in a coach with your truck for the Heartland Rally in Goshen. We could see it in person and put a face with a name in person. Good job BTW

What, only one unit.... Blasphemy... I don't move without at leat 2:D

If I'm in the area I'll bring the truck in. As far as bringing in a few units... That gets beyond mine and Jims pay grades for liability and insurance and freelancing would cost me my contract. Could be done, just has to be done right.

Thank you.

HOSS
01-06-2009, 11:48 AM
pmmjarrett,

This is addictive! Its like that favorite TV show you just can't wait to see each day to see what is going on. I can't wait to get home each day so I can see what has been added to the truck. Love the pics, can't wait to see finished. But then do I want it to be finished? LOL... Keep up the good work, got a fan here.

bsummit
01-06-2009, 01:50 PM
I'm with HOSS. I can't wait to check the forum in the evening to see what has been completed and look at the pic's. Will be glad to see the finished product. So keep up the good work.
Bill

pmmjarrett
01-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Thank you all for letting me share. When Jim asked me to share this build here I never had any idea it would get this much interest on a dedicated RV site.

However there are almost 4 times as many views here than on a diesel site I have been a member of for a few years and basicly running a duplicate post.

That tells me there is either...... genuine interest in the build..... or a whole lot of retired people with nothing better to do LOL None:D

As far as being finished..... It won't happen for a long time, these trucks are often upgraded and changed to make things easier or adapt to different loads. I already have modifications planned like extending the bed further forward, making a movable ramp to get stuff to the upper platform and notching the sleeper deeper to get 2 small units like the 14' Edge on the bed so I can drag 3 at a time on occassion. This modification is one reasom my winch is side mounted and when I build the center rail it will go all the way under the sleeper with the sheave mounted near the front of the sleeper for the winch cable. Will start building the center channel tomorrow, you'll see a little clearer what I am talking about.



WOOOOHOOOOOOOO The bed fabrication is finished.

Welded on the right rub rail, left deck stiffener and deck plate on the left side. Everything is ground down and ready for paint.
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Had to make what is hopefully my last trip to Northern Tool to pick up 10 more lbs of welding rod and....... Cord and connector to make the extension pig tail for the stinger. 5 more rolls of electrical tape to tape up the wire looms.
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A couple wheels for the trailer tounge jacks.... one is a spare, they don't last long in gravel lots.
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Good high strength 5/16" chain and hooks for the stinger safety chains
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License plate bracket and light to mount on the back of the sleeper
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Valspar oil base paint and primer for the frame and bed. These beds take a beating. Expensive automotive paint is a waste of money here.
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pmmjarrett
01-08-2009, 11:03 PM
Bad winds yesterday and lost power until just after midnight last night. Fell asleep waiting for the power to come back on around 6 pm and woke up just after midnight with TVs blaring and all the lights on. Been up since midnight now, couldn't get back to sleep.

Also had a phone conference with my safety department and general manager about a few changes I need to make to prevent damages on the really small ultralites. I also made a trip to a local RV dealer to get measurements and see what their concern is. I am fine for the large units with my design but the small stuff just ain't happening. I find that many ultralites have only 8" of ground clearance at plumbing and steps and the actual hitch height is about 8" lower than a standard travel trailer.

Needless to say I didn't accomplish much work on the truck yesterday other than making and welding on brackets for the midship amber marker lights, fruitful discussions and planning.
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2 steps back before I can move forward again. Cutting the deck plate back out. I have a plan now to make this section adjustable for height and bolted in place with grade 8 3/4" bolts. This is killing my timeline and budget, may take the dually back out for a few weeks then come home and finish it. I will make a decision saturday morning.


Left deck plate cut out. What a PITA, I hate re-work, really kills momentum on a project as well as your mood. Nobody to blame but myself..... Don't you wish a politician had the ----- to say something like that.
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On a positive note. My tire straps came in. Nice ones too. These are built specificly for flatbed type applications using side rails like I have. 2 ratchets per strap, flat hook ends, 10,000 lb beaking strength each and a 3300 lb working load limit each. That ought to keep a trailer in place.
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Netem
01-08-2009, 11:57 PM
What a bummer, nothing worse than having to cut out some nice welds and start over. With all the changes in the RV's I hope your new idea will cover you for awhile as I know you are working very hard to get this truck done.

pmmjarrett
01-09-2009, 07:48 PM
What a bummer, nothing worse than having to cut out some nice welds and start over. With all the changes in the RV's I hope your new idea will cover you for awhile as I know you are working very hard to get this truck done.


It was welded good and solid, and on all sides too in most places, what a beach to cut. Got my momentum in the right direction now....

Moving forward again. Scratching the idea of a deck portion I can reposition. When I started this build I wanted something that was easy to operate with my disabilities and flexible enough to haul almost any travel trailer including those usually done with single tow behind 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. Those guys ain't gonna be happy when they see me dragging a couple of 31' travel trailers out of the yard on a nice long gravey run. Another bonus now is they will unload a bit easier with a 4* down to the 8* beavertail.

I'm simply moving the front of the deck up 6". Still can haul up to 11' tall travel trailers which covers most of them and won't rip anything off the ultralites when loading. Will be able to get ultralites onto the upper deck easily so suspension movement in transit doesn't crush anything.


Repositioned deck section, need plenty of clamps and straps to hold it in place.
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Had to remove a couple sections of the rub rail to get in to cut where I needed.
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Only 6" from the top of the fenders to the deck now
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Better side shot
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All tacked back up and ready to get the deck plate back on.
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There's going to be a lot of grinding to clean a few areas up so it doesn't look like a hack job. I hate stuff that looks cobbled up. The other side will be easier to modify now I know exactly where I'm making my cuts and I won't have to remove all of the deck plate on that side either.

CrazyScotsman
01-11-2009, 08:32 AM
Dang I don't get on here in a few day's because I had long hours at work this week. ( Not much longer though :( ) When I do get on here to check your work out, you've dismantled your rig and rebuilt it. Bottle that energy up and sell me some. You can be a millionaire if you sell that energy that you have.
It's looking good though, keep up the good work, as the other poster says, " It's like watching your favourite tv show ".
It's looking good.............Ken

Bob&Patty
01-11-2009, 11:44 AM
Mike, watching your build is better that watching CSI or Law and Order. But its tied with the NFL play-offs. Man its a work of art. Bob:D

cdbMidland
01-11-2009, 11:57 AM
Mike, watching your build is better that watching CSI or Law and Order. But its tied with the NFL play-offs. Man its a work of art. Bob:D

No tie in my opinion. Mike wins, hands down.

dewwood
01-11-2009, 12:32 PM
Mike,

Ditto what others are saying, this has been great watching you work through your build dealing with things as they come up. Evidently a lot of people think so based on the number of viewings of this thread.

Are you going to stop by here on your way through sometime and let me see your handywork up close? I-80 runs right through my place with an exit at the OH-IN line about four miles away.

Best of luck on your project, it is looking goood.

Dewey

pmmjarrett
01-11-2009, 05:13 PM
Y'all gonna make me blush. Thanks for the roses. Dewey, could do that sometime.


Spent most of the day cutting parts and grinding. Both sides have modifications finished and tacked into place.
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Gussets are cut and ready to weld onto the deck crossmembers.
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6' of 3-1/2" square tube cut to length for stinger hitch.
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Parts cut for 12' ramps. Building them like equipment ramps and because of their length I will be adding a flat bar or round bar truss to the bottom to keep them from bending while loading.
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Tomorrow will be a busy day of just burning rod, a lot of it.

Netem
01-11-2009, 06:30 PM
Glad to see your going forward again. Everything looking good.

pmmjarrett
01-13-2009, 09:35 PM
That's an understatement. Long 13 hr day today and gotta be up at 4:30 AM tomorrow.

BED FABRICATION IS DONE WOOHOO.... for the second time that is... DOH!!!


Drilled 1/2" holes every 5" for the front 14' of the center channel for the ball stands.
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Made the mount for the winch cable sheave
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Welded the center channel to the mounts I made a couple weeks ago that are bolted to the frame crossmembers. Rear beavertail section is welded to the stinger receiver.
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Ready for paint tomorrow.
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Only a few things on tomorrows "to do" list


Move original sections of brake line to axle
Pick up tube and fittings for brake lines
Fabricate new brake line tie in sections
Finish brake lines
Bleed brakes
Paint bed & frame
Put fuse at battery
Install license plate bracket
Install license plate light
Wire sleeper interior light
Wire winch
Finish taping up wire looms
Install trailer plug
Install lights
bolt wiring looms to frame

dewwood
01-13-2009, 10:14 PM
So what are you going to do in the afternoon?None

HOSS
01-13-2009, 10:20 PM
Can't wait to see it loaded and ready to roll!

cliffbuilt
01-14-2009, 12:46 AM
Mighty nice build !! Wish you had a weld eraser for those mods. Looks like its not your first time to fab one of these. Keep up the good work & your welcome for a stop over if you ever get out west.

Cliff

pmmjarrett
01-17-2009, 05:05 PM
Brake lines didn't go as planned, nor did anything else for that matter, spent most of an entire day just finding a place that had the correct fittings and could double flare the 5/8" steel brake tubing used on the parking brakes.

With my arthritis and back problems my body didn't handle the 10 - 13 hr days I was doing to finish on time. Also my funds are getting too low to finish it the way I want and get it on the road so I'm taking a break on the project right now and going to get back on the road next week with the dually for 3 - 4 weeks then come home and finish it the way I want it.


Sorry guys and gals but yer gonna have to watch reruns for a few weeks while I give the old body a break and raise some more investment capitol.

No worries though, I'll keep ya posted on progress to finish it.

Cheers, Mike

jimtoo
01-17-2009, 05:59 PM
Hey Mike,

Your body is a lot more improtant than trying to meet a deadline.

You have done an amazing job extending the frame and mods to the cab and I have watched with interest. And I will still be here waiting for the next episode of the serries when you return.

Take care of that old worn out body, give it a rest. We will be here.

Jim M

irvin56
01-17-2009, 08:31 PM
Take care of yourself FIRST and rest your mind and body.None
You've done an amazing job on it, but it will all be for nothing if you can not operate it because of your broken body parts :eek:

pmmjarrett
01-17-2009, 09:24 PM
Thanks.

And it was a self imposed deadline too so no biggie. I really ain't supposed to be working but sitting on my butt for 3 years after going full speed for 20 some years to being medically retired drove me nuts.

One thing I have to keep in mind as I build is my disabilities. My doctors told me about 3 or 4 years ago that I'd be in a wheel chair in 5 - 10 years so I'm prolly on borrowed time pretty soon and can feel it. Stuff like getting stuck bent over and can't stand back up straight without pulling myself up by my arms is an eye opener.

That's one reason I'm building as I am.

By not having a full bed to the cab it makes it easy to pin the ball stands to the center channel. Most never use the front half of their bed other than the center channel. Just limits the tpe of freight I can haul. Really don't want to mess with hauling cars anyways.
Side mounted winch on the curb side. Again easy access. Winch also has wireless remote. Bonus.
Tool box will also be mounted curbside trying to keep everything I need on that side and easy to get too.
Back of cab fully cut out and bucket seats to be able to "sit in" the sleeper vs havng to crawl through a window over the back of the bench seat.
Will be installing cruise control.
Eventually will get air ride suspension with a dump valve and automatic load leveling.

Mabey I should go ahead now and convert the 1st 2 feet of the bed into an electric scooter carrier.:D Good thing my bed is 2' - 3' longer than most tow hauls;)

cdbMidland
01-17-2009, 10:22 PM
Sorry guys and gals but yer gonna have to watch reruns for a few weeks while I give the old body a break and raise some more investment capitol.

Cheers, Mike

Mike, you should have done this on UTube - you probably would have raised plenty of capital that way.

leftyf
01-18-2009, 12:35 AM
Thanks.

And it was a self imposed deadline too so no biggie. I really ain't supposed to be working but sitting on my butt for 3 years after going full speed for 20 some years to being medically retired drove me nuts.


Say it ain't so...SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!

What am I gonna do for comedy relief?

CrazyScotsman
01-18-2009, 09:16 AM
Thanks.

And it was a self imposed deadline too so no biggie. I really ain't supposed to be working but sitting on my butt for 3 years after going full speed for 20 some years to being medically retired drove me nuts.

One thing I have to keep in mind as I build is my disabilities. My doctors told me about 3 or 4 years ago that I'd be in a wheel chair in 5 - 10 years so I'm prolly on borrowed time pretty soon and can feel it. Stuff like getting stuck bent over and can't stand back up straight without pulling myself up by my arms is an eye opener.


That's one reason I'm building as I am.
By not having a full bed to the cab it makes it easy to pin the ball stands to the center channel. Most never use the front half of their bed other than the center channel. Just limits the tpe of freight I can haul. Really don't want to mess with hauling cars anyways.
Side mounted winch on the curb side. Again easy access. Winch also has wireless remote. Bonus.
Tool box will also be mounted curbside trying to keep everything I need on that side and easy to get too.
Back of cab fully cut out and bucket seats to be able to "sit in" the sleeper vs havng to crawl through a window over the back of the bench seat.
Will be installing cruise control.
Eventually will get air ride suspension with a dump valve and automatic load leveling.
Mabey I should go ahead now and convert the 1st 2 feet of the bed into an electric scooter carrier.:D Good thing my bed is 2' - 3' longer than most tow hauls;)


Mike. I would take what some doctors say with a pinch of salt. 22 years ago I had cancer, I was in bad shape. Dr's told my ex to start thinking about making funeral arrangements, because there was no way in **** that I would make it. HE HE FOOLED them. As my mum told me in her strong Scottish accent, " keep yer pecker up son ". She was not being rude, just meant to keep your chin up.
I'll look for you out on the road, if your driving through MO on I 44 or OK on Will Rogers turnpike or hwy 69. I go from Springfield MO. to Checotah OK. Tuesday through Saturdays. I started just running Tuesday through Friday as of this week. I have to use up my vacation and sick days before I get Laid off :( Just look for a Yellow freight truck, I go by Scotsman on the CB.
Worst part about getting laid off is having to put the purchase of our new BH on hold. That bummed me out more than anything.
Be safe out there and keep the rubber side down.None
Cheers Ken.

pmmjarrett
01-18-2009, 09:20 AM
Say it ain't so...SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!

What am I gonna do for comedy relief?

Polish yer hamburger press;)None

pmmjarrett
01-18-2009, 09:35 AM
Mike. I would take what some doctors say with a pinch of salt. 22 years ago I had cancer, I was in bad shape. Dr's told my ex to start thinking about making funeral arrangements, because there was no way in **** that I would make it. HE HE FOOLED them. As my mum told me in her strong Scottish accent, " keep yer pecker up son ". She was not being rude, just meant to keep your chin up.
I'll look for you out on the road, if your driving through MO on I 44 or OK on Will Rogers turnpike or hwy 69. I go from Springfield MO. to Checotah OK. Tuesday through Saturdays. I started just running Tuesday through Friday as of this week. I have to use up my vacation and sick days before I get Laid off :( Just look for a Yellow freight truck, I go by Scotsman on the CB.
Worst part about getting laid off is having to put the purchase of our new BH on hold. That bummed me out more than anything.
Be safe out there and keep the rubber side down.None
Cheers Ken.


Ken "keep yer pecker up":D There's something better waiting for your qualifications.;) Don't get down that way often and don't fight over the southern freight in the winter. My tail is usually up in western Canada where it pays better and nobody else wants to go.

Me listen to doctors, heck I don't listen to nobodyNone

leftyf
01-18-2009, 09:57 AM
Polish yer hamburger press;)None

Oooooooo...rough trade!

Brasso or Blitz??

pmmjarrett
01-18-2009, 10:00 AM
Oooooooo...rough trade!

Brasso or Blitz??

Neverdull;)

pmmjarrett
01-22-2009, 11:53 PM
Gonna be busy for a few days......... errr weeks.

Just took 2 repo'ed 40' toyhaulers to the auction and am leaving out for a 2700 mile one way run to Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada tomorrow morning.

Mabey if it's sunny I'll go sit on the beach at Great Slave Lake and have a few Pina Colodas ;)

nhunter
01-23-2009, 09:36 AM
Gonna be busy for a few days......... errr weeks.

Just took 2 repo'ed 40' toyhaulers to the auction and am leaving out for a 2700 mile one way run to Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada tomorrow morning.

Mabey if it's sunny I'll go sit on the beach at Great Slave Lake and have a few Pina Colodas ;)
At least your ice won't melt before your finished them. It's a tropical -17F this morning with a 10mph wind.

truknutt
01-23-2009, 10:02 AM
Just took 2 repo'ed 40' toyhaulers to the auction and am leaving out for a 2700 mile one way run to Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada tomorrow morning.



Yellowknife...Oh yeah that's "Ice Road Truckers - Season 1" turf. If you run into Alex, see how he's doing, DW was concerned!:cool:

pmmjarrett
01-23-2009, 10:47 AM
At least your ice won't melt before your finished them. It's a tropical -17F this morning with a 10mph wind.

That's a heat wave. Blame it on global warming LOL

pmmjarrett
01-23-2009, 10:48 AM
Yellowknife...Oh yeah that's "Ice Road Truckers - Season 1" turf. If you run into Alex, see how he's doing, DW was concerned!:cool:

Will do. The young kid Jay lives up the too. Be neat to run into them.

beardedone
01-23-2009, 11:54 AM
Good morning. Red Deer was -26 C this am and will not be getting any better for next five days. Wear your woolies and bring a winter front for your truck! Hwy 2 in Alberta is in good shape - no ice, just lots of traffic.

pmmjarrett
02-01-2009, 06:18 PM
Good morning. Red Deer was -26 C this am and will not be getting any better for next five days. Wear your woolies and bring a winter front for your truck! Hwy 2 in Alberta is in good shape - no ice, just lots of traffic.

-26C (-15F) was childs play..... er Bikini weather. It got down to -38F ( -39C) between Regina and Saskatoon when we went through..... and that doen't include wind chill w/ 20 mph winds.


This trip sugged and it still ain't over for a few more days but I'm spent for today and stopping for the night.

Trip started OK friday then going through the Chicagoland area on 294, the throwout bearing on the clutch really started howling. We stopped in Beloit WI for a bite to eat and when I pushed my clutch in to start the truck it wouldn't move so I pushed harder and managed to make the slave cylinder explode and blew it completely off the transmission. DOH!!!

Managed to secure parts friday night and found a Dodge dealer that could fix it saturday morning and was back on the road saturday afternoon. Can't ***** too much as I had 177,000 miles on it. Clutch plate still looked great and could have gone another 100k.

Cought up to my running partner in Jamestown ND and headed for the border, no problems there, just a 20 mph head wind killing fuel economy.

Temps were dipping to -20F shortly after crossing the border and I was slam full of winterized #2 diesel (wasn't planning to run #1 until we stopped in edmonton but temps dropped faster than expected... OOPS) so we double dosed it with Power Service and gave the Aux tank a shot of FPPF meltdown to unfreeze the line between my aux tank and main tank. My buddy was already having to change a fuel filter and his aux tank wasn't pumping.

I discovered later my aux tank wasn't freezing in the line but my mounts broke from the rough ride:mad: and pinched my fuel line. We used blocks of wood and straps to move it back into place and all is fine for now. His tank still wouldn't pump, his fuel looked like Corn syrup.

In Chaimberlain SK we both lost power and had to swap fuel filters in -38F temps, my fuel wasn't gelled but the filter was full of algea. Evidently all of the additives were really cleaning my fuel system out. We stopped in Saskatoon and bought more spare filters, fortunatly we never had more fuel problems the rest of the trip.

Unfortunatly in Lashburn, SK his chevy blew up the transfer case and had to be towed into Lloydminster AB to the GM dealer, I went to Lloydminster, dropped my trailer and went back to recover his. Towed in Monday afternoon, they pulled it tuesday and it was destroyed. $3500 for parts or $2800 for a reman were his options...... This is where he got extreeeeeemely lucky...... He had just picked his truck up Jan 1st after having his transfercase rebuilt by a GM dealer, it was his first rip with the truck since then and it was under warranty, didn't cost anything but a couple days down time, tons of phone calls and hotel expense.

The found a reman for him in Edmonton, had it shipped and we were on our way about noon local time.

Rest of the trip went OK, 1000 miles of driving on nothing but ice from High Level AB to Yellowknife NWT and back to High Level. Made delivery 3 days late but all was OK and no damage.

I will say the McKenzie river ice crossing into Fort Providence was "crunchy" and had a lot of wet spots on the ice. Last ice bridge I crossed didn't make that much noise and was dry.

Coming home was going OK so until today for me. Border crossing was no biggie. 45 miles later the road was blocked by a malfunctioning RR crossing and traffic lined up for a mile each side so I decided...... Hey, I don't have a trailer and looking at google maps on the Blackberry I see a way around it by going around the country block on a few back roads. That was a huge mistake and the beginning of the end of the day for me.

When I got to the RR crossing on the back road there was a foot deep snow drift that caught my right front tire, ripped off my air dam and spun me out 90* and buried me in deep snow straddling me across the RR tracks :eek::eek::eek: RF tire got caught between a tie and the rail...... If you've ever driven a 2wd dually you know they get stuck if you even think about getting stuck. It just ain't gonna move.

I'm was so ****** and frustrated with this trip at this point I just wanted to watch a train roll over my truck, hey, it's insured and I have gap insurance too right...... A moment later I decided I didn't want to make the evening headlines and called 911 so they could notify the RR, was told no movement on that line was expected for a few days, then they got me a tow truck..... 30 minutes and $90 later I'm free.

About an hour later the adreniline rush wore off and I'm beat so I holed up in a hotel for the night. Will resume the push to Indiana in the AM.

I don't mind a bad day so much as hey, Sheet happens.... But dayum.... A bad couple weeks hurts. Nothing like working for 2 weeks for free EH!!!


So ya say ya wanna be an RV transporter.None.... It's one of the best ways to ruin a perfectly good pickup;) I can't wait to get the pickup off the road and get the medium duty out there.

HarleyRyder
02-01-2009, 06:34 PM
I have no problem with "stuff" happening, it is just the frequency with which it seems to happen.

Glad your back. Missed your updates.

pmmjarrett
02-01-2009, 07:27 PM
I have no problem with "stuff" happening, it is just the frequency with which it seems to happen.

Glad your back. Missed your updates.

LOL, Very well said.

Unfortunatly I ain't back to work on the truck yet, now I gotta work 2 more weeks to make up the money I was hoping to make on this one run so I can finish my truck. All I've done for 2 weeks was mabey break even at best.

jimtoo
02-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Hey Mike,

As you know, and have you suffered a few, there will always be bumps in the road. Regardless of the road we take. But the main thing is you are safe, irregardless of cost or time.None

Jim M

pmmjarrett
02-01-2009, 08:18 PM
Hey Mike,

As you know, and have you suffered a few, there will always be bumps in the road. Regardless of the road we take. But the main thing is you are safe, irregardless of cost or time.None

Jim M

Yep I'm O Tay....... Did you say BUMPS...... Oh yea, forgot about them too. I blew an air line on my air bags in North Dakota on the way up so I have to get that fixed too LOL.

Yea, the 911 operator I called kinda shocked me, she just told me if I hear a train or feel the earth shake get out of my truck and she'd call me back and let me know what the train schedule was looking like after she notified them.

Heck I was already out of it with what mattered to me at the moment.

my woolies
my empty wallet
My Blackberry Curve (Google maps on it saved my butt by being able to use the GPS function with it to get my exact location and street name after I got myself in trouble using it)
my trip settlement paperwork (so I could get paid)
my laptop (so I can find loads)
my file folder full of receipts (so I could write that stuff off my taxes)
my birth certificate (havn't bought a passport yet to run Canada when the rules change this summer)
I wasn't waiting in the truck to see what happened next with the truck straddeling tracks in the middle of nowhere in an area that trains run heavily through when headed to the border or back. I do some dumb stuff at times but I ain't stupid.

leftyf
02-01-2009, 11:27 PM
I wasn't waiting in the truck to see what happened next with the truck straddeling tracks in the middle of nowhere in an area that trains run heavily through when headed to the border or back. I do some dumb stuff at times but I ain't stupid.

In a word, DAYUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nhunter
02-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Never thought of them making a 2wd truck;)

pmmjarrett
02-02-2009, 04:05 AM
Never thought of them making a 2wd truck;)

:p!!!!!!!None

pmmjarrett
02-03-2009, 06:32 PM
Well it's off again to the great white north, just not so far north this time. Heading to Red Deer Alberta to drop a new Heatland 40' Cedar Ridge park model.

When I dispatched on it, it was supposed to be a 40' fifth wheel which sould have been a Cyclone........ Had a hard time figuring out how to get this park model hooked to the fifth wheel, took me a few hours but it's hooked to the truck now LOL;).

Uggggggg I hate hauling park models and it doen't matter who makes them.

BTW...... Hey Jim do I win a prize for the first Cedar Ridge sighting:D.......






OK, I know I cheated.None

beardedone
02-03-2009, 11:11 PM
Have a good trip. Fantastic weather forecast for the rest of the week. Don't forget your sunglassesNone

pmmjarrett
02-04-2009, 05:45 PM
Have a good trip. Fantastic weather forecast for the rest of the week. Don't forget your sunglassesNone

I have transition lenses in my glasses:D. I was just looking at the forcasts for Saskatoon, Calgary and Edmonton.

Warm, sunny and a light breeze for the next few days. SCHAWEEEEEEEEEET!!!

Sure beats, Windy, snowing and colder than a witch. Will finally be above freezing so I can wash my truck that is caked with salt and sand from the last 2 weeks and 6000+ miles


P.S........ All goes well I should be delivering in Red Deer friday afternoon. OH and Jim said you were buying me a coffee at Timmy'sNone

beardedone
02-04-2009, 10:01 PM
Hi, Sorry didn't reply sooner because I am in Edmonton on a short course for work ( I am supposed to be retired - long story, but work can be fun). I will be back Thursday night so I will look around to see if I can find you. What dealer are you going to? Jim is right too!

Niles
02-05-2009, 07:10 AM
Here's a little prayer that might help those days;
Dear Lord'
So far today, I've done all right.
I haven't gossiped, haven't lost my temper.
Haven't been greedy, grumpy, nasty, selfish, or overindulgent.
I haven't whined, complained, cursed, or eaten any chocolate, and I haven't used my credit card.
I'm thankful for all that.
But in a few minutes, GOD, I'm going to get out of bed.
I'm probably going to need a lot more help from then on.
Amen

pmmjarrett
02-07-2009, 11:28 PM
Hi, Sorry didn't reply sooner because I am in Edmonton on a short course for work ( I am supposed to be retired - long story, but work can be fun). I will be back Thursday night so I will look around to see if I can find you. What dealer are you going to? Jim is right too!

Dropped at Paradise this morning and am a few hrs from crossing the border crossing at Portal ND now.

pmmjarrett
02-13-2009, 09:03 PM
Mabey good news.....Are Y'all ready to resume..... ummmm..... new episodes of "Watch this ice road trucker trick his RV truck" LOL

Not too awful bad the last few days.

Picked up a 38' park model yesterday morning headed to New Jersey and of course I was promtly pulled over by the Ohio DOT right at the In/OH state line on the turnpike.... Geez, can a guy get a break sometime this month... Of course the first thing he wanted to see was my log book, which I proudly opened for him and showed him I just left Wakarua IN less than 2 hrs ago. He said is was the best logbook he seen all day and didn't even look past my last entry.... Anyways, I passed the Level 1 inspection and got a new "get out of jail free" CVSA decal on my windshield, WooHoo...... unfortunatly this truck gets retired next week and the F-800 ain't got that sticker.

Managed to snag a reload (another 36' park model) in West Boylton MA going right back to the manufacturer for warranty work and have another trailer going to Byron GA already dispatched on me. Going home after I drop that one. Should have enough $$$$ now to finish this truck and get it on the road.

Should be home hopefully wednesday and be able to resume work next weekend, mabey before, but I have a few things I need to do first like chase mama round the house, play with the dogs, chase mama round the house, spank the kid, chase mama round the house, file my taxes, chase mama round the house, fill out some VA paperwork, chase mama round the house, some other misc items and chase mama round the house......hmmmm mabey I should rest for a week before I start the build again.

I have already purchased 2 new front tires and a nice 32" x 80" 8 inch thick innerspring mattress for the sleeper as well as have a few other misc items I have riding in the cab with me. I should have almost every part I need for the truck other than a few misc nuts and bolts and extending the exhaust to clear the sleeper. About all that is left beyond that is Tags $413, insurance $238, annual federal inspection $50 and fill the fuel tanks $225

nhunter
02-13-2009, 09:17 PM
About time some of us are going through withdrawl. Only 238 a year for insurance? I'm in the wrong place.

pmmjarrett
02-13-2009, 10:09 PM
About time some of us are going through withdrawl. Only 238 a year for insurance? I'm in the wrong place.

$238 a year........ I wish. Try $161 a month

Commercial Physical Damage coverage with $1000 deductable for $10,000 truck = $88 a month

$6000 worth of additional equipment coverage = $31 a month

$500,000 or 750,000 (sorry can't remember which it is right now) Non trucking liability (bobtail) insurance = $42 a month

I already carry non trucking liability on the dually through Brown & Brown so I need only the 1st month and a deposit for the pysical damage and additional equipment insurance.


As required by federal law.....Primary liability coverage is carried by the company that you are leased too.

Bob&Patty
02-13-2009, 10:24 PM
Mike, by the time you get all done chasing momma, if she lets you catch her that is. You will be finished for a month. You will need medical insurance not truck insurance. ;)

pmmjarrett
02-13-2009, 10:42 PM
Mike, by the time you get all done chasing momma, if she lets you catch her that is. You will be finished for a month. You will need medical insurance not truck insurance. ;)

I have Tri-Care, I'll just need a cigarette and a good napNone

pmmjarrett
02-23-2009, 08:44 PM
Showtime.

Finished catching up and catching my breath...... and now it's time to get started working on the truck first thing tomorrow morning.

Picked up some 1/4" brake line and unions today and shortend a 5/8" hydraulic hose for the parking brake hydraulic lines. Will finish installing the brake lines, bleed the brakes, bleed the parking brake system and get this truck movable again tomorrow.

Looks like a decent week weather wise so I'm hoping to finish this truck up by the middle to end of next week at the latest.

Bob&Patty
02-23-2009, 11:12 PM
Well Mike it's about time. Boy I have missed the story's and pix. BTW, have you given any thought to putting air ride on the rear? That would be sweet. Bob

pmmjarrett
02-24-2009, 06:00 PM
Well Mike it's about time. Boy I have missed the story's and pix. BTW, have you given any thought to putting air ride on the rear? That would be sweet. Bob


Well here ya go....... As for air ride, giving it plenty of thought but it ain't happening yet...... Costs more than I paid for the truck:eek:


Finished the brake lines and bleeding the brakes. Biggest pain was just finding a place that could work on 5/8" steel brake line on the parking brake portion of the brakes, just to flare one end and install a fitting for me.

Here's the new flexible portion of the 5/8" line that I had to shorten about 1-1/2".
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01151.jpg


YES!!!

Fired right up for the first time in months and moved it out of the shop under it's own power. Brakes and parking brakes working like a champ.

Never measured it but evidently there's only about 45' from the shop door to the dog pen at the back of the house....... the truck is 39'11" long LOL
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01156.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01160.jpg

jmgratz
02-24-2009, 06:22 PM
Looks great...now quit drooling and get to work transporting to make some money.:D

pmmjarrett
02-24-2009, 06:43 PM
Looks great...now quit drooling and get to work transporting to make some money.:D

Right after I make the ramps, make the stinger, build the ball stand, put on the new front tires, get a DOT inspection, extend the exhaust to clear the sleeper, paint the frame and body, install the interior in the sleeper, put a seat in the cab, insurance, tags and fuel it up

About a week or so worth of work and $1000 to spend to button it up nicely.

nhunter
02-24-2009, 09:05 PM
It's a Ford, of course it fired right up!!

pmmjarrett
02-24-2009, 10:10 PM
It's a Ford, of course it fired right up!!

Yea...... but it's a Ford with Goat guts. None

Cummins Power Baby!!!! ;):D

Only concerns I really had was the batteries being low from any possible small drain over several months or if there may have been any small air leak into the fuel system on this 11 year old truck that would require me to prime it first after sitting this long. Needless to say, I'm pretty satisfied that I don't have either issue.

bsummit
02-24-2009, 10:47 PM
I like the Ford with Goat Guts.
Go Cummins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DennisZ
02-24-2009, 11:24 PM
Mike
Love the new Avatar!!!

Dennis

pmmjarrett
02-25-2009, 12:39 AM
Mike
Love the new Avatar!!!

Dennis

Fantastic, then you'll really like my next project....... How to build an AR15;)

Roggio Arsenal AR15 lower receiver
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/AR15/IMG01128.jpg

Bushmaster 30 round .223 magazine
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/AR15/IMG01145.jpg

pmmjarrett
02-25-2009, 07:54 PM
Back to working on my own economic stimulus package today.

Decided to tackle the extendable stinger hitch. Had to grind 2' of factory weld seam out of the 4" square receiver tubing.......took 3 hrs with a die grinder taped to a piece of pipe with the handle taped wide open using the air hose to turn it on and off.... (Don't try this at home, I am a proffessional LOL)..... NOTE TO SELF, Remember to order seamless tubing next time DOH!!!

The extendable stinger is needed when I have a trailer or trailers with an actual length of over 28' on the bed. I can load up to 32' of trailer on the bed using my maximum allowed 4' of overhang.

Fit is tight, had to clean up the 3-1/2" tubing of all rust scale and lube it with silicone. Slides free now.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01172.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01175.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01178.jpg



Cut the safety chains to length and installed, Clevis on one end and hook on the other. makes it easy to wrap the chain around the stinger for any length setting I move it out too.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01183.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01186.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01190.jpg

CrazyScotsman
02-25-2009, 10:08 PM
Well it's about time you started working on your wee project, I miss reading about it when your not on the road.
PS. I am not getting layedoff, I took a transfer to Dallas TX :( wife is staying back here in MO so I will be commuting a lot.
Keep up the good work.

pmmjarrett
02-26-2009, 09:35 AM
Well it's about time you started working on your wee project, I miss reading about it when your not on the road.
PS. I am not getting layedoff, I took a transfer to Dallas TX :( wife is staying back here in MO so I will be commuting a lot.
Keep up the good work.


Boy I'm glad to hear that. Congrats. It may be a bit tough to do right now, but hopefully in the long run it will have been the wise choice to take the transfer. All the best to you and yours. Mike

pmmjarrett
02-26-2009, 09:53 PM
Didn't get chit accomplished today.

Was too busy exercising my second ammendment rights this morning buying 30 round magazines, more .223 Remington FMJ ammo and drooling over toys for my AR15 and then after I got home I found out my parents house in McKinney Texas burnt up while they were away at a wood carving class for senior citizens.

Fortunatly they are OK as is my sister and her daughter that stay with them, unfortunatly their 4 dogs were killed in the fire. RIP little friends.

Needless to say, my guts are a bit twisted right now and I have no idea what I'm gonna do but i prolly ain't gonna accomplish squat on the truck the next few days or so while I figure it out.

SmokeyBare
02-26-2009, 10:04 PM
Very sorry to hear about the House Fire and the loss of the 4 family pets. Prayers to your family...

Just when their golden years are at hand... when they have time to enjoy a more leisure lifestyle... they must face the next troubled twist in their lives.

Thank Goodness they are safe... they may have lost so very much that was important to them both... but for one thing... each other. I pray they find the strength in each other to get through the the rebuilding of their Home.

Marv

HarleyRyder
02-26-2009, 10:19 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

bsummit
02-26-2009, 10:22 PM
Mike, I'm so sorry for your parent's loss, just thank God they are safe. My prayers are with you and your parents. Be safe and take care of your family.

Bill

jbeletti
02-26-2009, 11:47 PM
Mike,

So sorry to hear about your parent's loss. Especially the fur babies.

Jim

truknutt
02-27-2009, 01:36 PM
PM,

What does one say to news such as this other than "I am truly sorry to hear of this horrific event in your family's life." Stuff is stuff but unfortunately their puppies were family!

My parents have had 2 house fires (pyro father) and I have seen the look of despair in their eyes. Comfort is all you can give to help them through it all.


On a lighter note... """PLEASE PUT DOWN THE WEAPON!!""" :D:D

jmgratz
02-27-2009, 03:02 PM
Sorry about your parents loss. But, the Lord works in mysterious ways. I bet they land on their feet in better circumstances. God Bless....

PS My AR-15 is a 9mm

leftyf
02-27-2009, 04:03 PM
Didn't get chit accomplished today.

Fortunatly they are OK as is my sister and her daughter that stay with them, unfortunatly their 4 dogs were killed in the fire. RIP little friends.


Sorry for their loss...especially the animals.

Ray LeTourneau
02-27-2009, 04:09 PM
Mike, sorry to hear of your family's loss, especially the pets. Our thoughts and best wishes are with you and your family.

pmmjarrett
03-03-2009, 10:35 PM
Thanks everybody. Parents are doing fine.

Fire was mostly in the kitchen, still waiting on investigation to determine the cause so they can't work in that area of the house yet. It was a low temperature sooty, smokey fire that put itself out. The kitchen is destroyed but most everything else in that half of the house is smoke and soot damage, they will have to also rebuild the master bathroom that backs up to the kitchen because of heat damage to the shower and tub.

The other half where my sister was staying (house is like a duplex) is fine as the french doors separating the 2 halves of the house kept out the smoke. They are going to try to redistribute power in the house so that my parents and sister can move back into that side of the house and the contractors will have power to work.




Back to the build after a few days off due to chit happens and bad weather on the east coast.

Finished making all the parts for the ball stand, assembly has removable stands for different ball sizes. I have built a 2" and a 2-5/16", skipped the 1-7/8" because it isn't really needed with RVs but it's easy enough to make one later if for some odd chance I ever need one, never used one on my pickup and don't even own a ball that small...... There are 47 parts total in this assembly.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01200.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01201.jpg


All welded together, assembled and pinned to the center channel. Still need to tweek it a bit as the heat from welding caused some shrinkage in the metal (yea I really poured the heat to this part with some deep penetrating 6011 1/8" rod) and I can't get the removable tubes to go all the way to the bottom which is where I need them when I am loading a trailer. Ball stands are used both to winch the trailer onto the trucks using the trailers coupler as well as secure the tounge to the truck for transport.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01206.jpg

jmgratz
03-03-2009, 10:38 PM
Almost there...looking good

pmmjarrett
03-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Moving forward.

Broke out the grinders and got the ball stands working like they should now, can check this off the list as finished.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01212.jpg


Fabricated tool box mounts and bolted them to the frame.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01216.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01217.jpg


The only bling. bling on the truck besides the grill, mirrors and front bumper LOL. This box will eventually be replaced with an 18" deep box with side mounted doors when I eventually extend the bed forward.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01220.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01224.jpg


Tomorrow will wrap up the fabrication and get paint on the frame and bed. Only need to move a light bracket, weld the ramps together (parts are already cut) and drill a few adjustment holes in the stinger. Then it's time to clean things up a bit and shoot paint.

Supposed to be nice the next several days with temps in the 60s and 70s so I hope to finish it up early next week so I can get it packed out and ready to make some $$$$$..... we'll see how that goes.

CrazyScotsman
03-04-2009, 07:46 PM
It's looking good Mike

HOSS
03-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Mike, can't wait to see it painted, loaded and ready to roll! Any other projects in the works we can look forward to?

HOSS

pmmjarrett
03-05-2009, 07:23 AM
Mike, can't wait to see it painted, loaded and ready to roll! Any other projects in the works we can look forward to?

HOSS

Alot of my projects will depend on how business goes this year as well as how this truck performs.

Hmmmmmmm My project list

1). Finish home remodel..... nope, this will take years.
2). Finish building my AR15 sporting rifle from a bare stripped lower receiver..... nope, not "family freindly" for this forum, it'll send the far left screaming.
3). Finish building my Racing Lwnmower.... there's a possibility
4). Rebuild/restore my Dad's Honda FL250 Odessey for him... could be done
5). Custom paint and refit of my Dodge Dually for it's retirement present..... Hopefully start this summer.


I've been itching to do some wild custom paint so you'll eventually get this show when I refit my dually the way I really want it..... Dechromed, shaved & slammed & wrapped in House of Kolor's Kandies & pearls.

CrazyScotsman
03-05-2009, 08:12 AM
The home remodel the only project on the " Honey Do " list gets a nope.sounds like the bathroom project I started over 3 years ago, I got the tile around Jacuzzi, shower and floor done. There it sits unpainted, door frames and baseboards still off.
The amount of time i've had on my hands this week down in TX I could have got my honey do's done. I have sat here since Sunday, waiting by the phone for them to call me into work, no luck yet. If nothing breaks soon, I will hook up and head home, I can make the same money sitting at home and not have to pay for site rent.
Oh well, such is life.
I can,t wait to see the custom dually. and the new rig painted. cluck, cluck chicken truck.
Cheers Ken. Bored in TX and missing the wife, and the dogs.

pmmjarrett
03-06-2009, 07:01 PM
Hate to hear they got ya sitting around twiddling your thumbs Ken, not a good sign.

FABRICATION IS DONE!!!!!!!! Whew, about time. Didn't get into paint yesterday as I lost time on the ramps running out of welding rod and welding was taking a lot longer than planned. It's a 1-1/2 to 2 hr round trip into town to get stuff.


Finished up the ramps today. Made them like equipment ramps and they are heavy... About 130 lbs each calculating the amount of steel in them at 10 lbs per square ft for 1/4" mild steel.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01237.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01239.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01232.jpg


Ramps stowed on the simple brackets I made today, perfect fit between the frame flanges and the center channel. Will cut off the excess on the straps and they will be dedicated for just the ramps.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01229.jpg


Got the primer on, will spray the black first thing tomorrow morning.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01249.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01243.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01251.jpg

jmgratz
03-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Now you gotcha something

pmmjarrett
03-07-2009, 04:48 PM
Well it's black....... as well as my jeans, shoes, shirt, face and hands. Tastes great, less filling...... Old raggedy sneakers were so sticky and covered with grass, paint and dirt I took them off outside and tossed them in the trash before even walking in the house.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01254.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01255.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01258.jpg



Now it's the beginning of the thrash called final assembly. Lots of little details to take care of like this license plate bracket and light. Gotta go shopping now and pick up a bunch of misc items for the truck.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01260.jpg

irvin56
03-07-2009, 04:55 PM
None

At least you have nice weather to work on the painting
and NO SNOW

pmmjarrett
03-07-2009, 08:27 PM
None

At least you have nice weather to work on the painting
and NO SNOW


76*F and sunny today:D..... supposed to be 83F and sunny the next 2 days:pNone

medic9016
03-07-2009, 09:46 PM
Nice job and great story to go with them. I have looked at the pictures, I see the winch to get the trailer on. It's probably simple, but how will you get the trailer back down? Will you change the winch direction with a pulley or something like that?

jimtoo
03-07-2009, 10:10 PM
Nawww... he just unhooks and takes the chains off the trailer and then takes off really fast, trailer just rolls down the ramps.

Ohhh... wait,, he can't take off fast,,,,, it's FORD!!!

So he has to wait untill someone comes by with a GMC or Chev with a Duramax to pull it off....:D:D

pmmjarrett
03-07-2009, 10:43 PM
Gravity unloads the trailer, you control it with the winch.


Nawww... he just unhooks and takes the chains off the trailer and then takes off really fast, trailer just rolls down the ramps.

Ohhh... wait,, he can't take off fast,,,,, it's FORD!!!

So he has to wait untill someone comes by with a GMC or Chev with a Duramax to pull it off....:D:D


Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhahaa

:p Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Ya gotta think tactically;)

Besides, it's got goat guts and a GM tranny....... GM Tranny is the only part I'm worried about breaking.

Last thing I'd ever do is get another V8 diesel, I'm quite happy with my little 6 bangers.

leftyf
03-08-2009, 12:51 AM
I'm gonna have to drive down some weekend and check this out...the pictures got me so confused, I'm not sure if I'm seeing one or five trucks.

CrazyScotsman
03-08-2009, 04:23 PM
Mike, your wife don't mind the grass being red ?

Well, I just got back in from a quick trip to San Bernadino CA. Left Friday at 5.30am, got back in at 1pm, and even had to wait 2 1/2 hours getting a trailer tyre replaced, in BFE Arizona.
Hope I get more than 1 run this coming week.

I can't wait to see the finished product Mike. Look's good apart from the red grass.

Cheers ....Ken

pmmjarrett
03-08-2009, 07:56 PM
C'mon now, the grass is black now:D............... and red and green and brown.

Went out last night and splurged and bought LED lights for the truck. Tail lights are now the 27 LEd oval lights and marker lights have 9 LEDs each and boy are they bright. If you can't see me hit the brakes you are blind.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01273.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01271.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01274.jpg


Let me light up my tail lights for you. In case somebody might have trouble seeing just 2, I installed 6
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01266.jpg


Now if you are having trouble seeing those 6, let me tap the brake pedal for you. If you can't see me now, you need to turn in your drivers license and sell your vehicle.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01270.jpg


Yes these are DOT approved and legal lights.

CrazyScotsman
03-08-2009, 08:48 PM
now all you need now is the clear lens amber leds along the side Chicken truck
Oh yea, big chrome TX bumper and chrome air breather's

pmmjarrett
03-08-2009, 10:21 PM
now all you need now is the clear lens amber leds along the side Chicken truck
Oh yea, big chrome TX bumper and chrome air breather's

Oh man yer slipping. How could you forget the 10" stove pipes and the train horns.

I'd end up spending more than I paid for the truck lighting up a 40' straight truck like that.

Bob&Patty
03-09-2009, 10:33 AM
Mike, you need at least 1 6" straight pipe on the beast. Let that cum-a-long bark. What you mean "willis" no air horns? Bob:D

pmmjarrett
03-09-2009, 07:08 PM
Stock 4" and muffled will be just fine:D

Spent about 1/2 the day on the phone with both the NC Motor Carrier enforcement working out the location of my ICC lights to stay out of trouble and Milemarker winch trying to figure out the wireless remote which turned out to be fried by the PO.... as well as the fried thermal reset on the winch motor itself.

Finally got the ICC lights mounted and legal and got the winch working now but one change I made on my center rail has my cable alignment goofed up so all the cable wants to load on one end, OOPS. Need to get a snatch block up where I originally intended to route the cable to correct this.

No pics today, used up my camera time throwing wrenches.

pmmjarrett
03-09-2009, 08:10 PM
OK, I'll play nice, here's the pics.


Regs call for 3 identification marker lights on trucks and trailers over 80" wide. The center light needs to be as close to the center of the vehicle as possible and the ones on each side must be not less than 6" or more than 12" from the center to center of each light AND must be evenly spaced.

My problem is I forgot to make room for the ICC lights, the 7 way plug being close to the stinger was killing the distance I needed to keep between lights, I really didn't want an asymetrical look, I had to remove the bracket I originally made for the light for the stingers 2" receiver and I need to place them where they won't be torn off using the ramps as well as be visible when not towing a trailer.

I was considering putting them on the sleeper like on a pole truck but I would need to get a ruling from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration or risk a ticket on this unique specialty carrier.

Solution, skinney lights LOL. by mounting the lights vertically vs horizontally the distance from the edge to the center of the light is 1/4" vs 2" drasticly reducing the amount of space I need to mount them.


BTW, did get the 7 pin connector wired and installed too.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01278.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01281.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01283.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01287.jpg

pmmjarrett
03-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Much accomplished today. Sleeper and cab interior are done.


http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01293.jpg


Nice 8" thick 32" x 80" inner spring mattress
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01295.jpg


It is a sit in bunk. No climbing through the back window or steps to an outside door like is common on pickup cabs like this.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01299.jpg


Mocking up the perfect seat height with some 1x3 lumber, 3" is just right for me. This cab is too short for the standard air ride that came on these Peterbilt seats. This particular seat is a Bostrom Talledega LSO, it's comfy. I do have the matching passenger seat but I'm not putting in a second seat, I want the extra space.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01300.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01306.jpg


New seat base is made from 2 pieces of 1-1/2" angle iron.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01310.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01311.jpg


It's all painted up and installed now, burned up all the daylight today from dawn to dusk to Git-R-Dun and my Blackberry doesn't take good pics at night.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/carolinapowerstroke/tow%20haul/IMG01316.jpg

leftyf
03-10-2009, 08:53 PM
Is there anything you CAN'T do? If so, I wanna see it ya talented b******.