Mountain travel

Rmcgrath53

Well-known member
Well here we are in the Smokiees of Nc and what a ride in here. We came in 441 up a mountain and down. The trip up was scarry! , It just started snowing up the mountain and we went through a couple of tunnels when I felt the rear of my truck starting to slde sideways. Then on the way down I put it in low gear and she still wanted to go fast. I kept bringing in the reigns every so often. By the time I got down the mountain it felt as tho my rotors are warped now. I t scared the !@#$ out of me. I got to the campground in Cherokee and took my whell off and checked the brakes. Ther is still alot of pad left. I am going around that mountain on the way home. It will cost me 1 and a half hours, but man did that snow up there put some fear in me.On the way down ,we past road blocks, for they closed the road off that is how bad it was.
 

dewwood

Well-known member
I see you are from Michigan so at least you had some experience with driving in the snow. That still does nothing to ease that feeling of "I'm not quite sure who is in control here but I don't think it is me". Hope you have a great stay and no more snow.
 

SmokeyBare

Well-known member
... The Smokey Mountains are around 5,000 foot Elevation.... Just imagine more than twice that height... as you travel through the Rocky Mountains with 54 peaks reaching altitudes of over 14,000 feet...

Towing an RV up hills or mountains doesn't seem to be a problem these days with the power offered by GM... Ford... or Dodge. !! BUT !! Stopping or slowing down a truck towing 14,000 to 16,000 pounds of weight... with gravity working hard against the brakes... Sure does make RV travel interesting... :)
 

Zonian

Member
I've travel both the "Smokies" )perhaps named after all of the brake smoke?:)) and the Rocky Mtns. I'll take the Rocks any day. that 441 can be real scary esp. with a long rig/wet weather and......tourist!!None
Les
 

RVCamper

Well-known member
Yes, when we did the Smoky's trip last summer, I had memories of when I was much younger and bolder when I took these aggressively (in a car). This last summer with a 33'5" trailer, and pulling it with a SUV, things were quite different.

When we came in it was at night rainy and very foggy. We were heading to Smokemont from Gatlinburg, right up and over 441, though the park. Was cautious, used gearing, and engine to keep down hill speed under control. Trailer brakes adjusted for the slippery roads (turned down the boost). I used the turn outs several times to let others pass. All in all did not use the brakes too much at all, mostly engine braking. This will be different this year as we too have a F350 Diesel with tow haul, and will be more dependent on brakes, since the engine braking is reduced on a diesel, with out a exhaust brake.

The most challenging part of the trip was actually doing a alternate route due to a total shut down of 40 going east. We ended up South west of the park, doing a bunch a tight switch backs. But, if you really want some fun try the Cherohala skyway is part of the Tail of the Dragon, and switchbacks it way up to 5300', similar to the park road.

At least it wasn't snow for us! :eek:
 

jmgratz

Original Owners Club Member
Pulling an RV in mountains without an exhaust brake is foolhardy in my mind. If you are going to drive mountainous road then you either need to invest in a prepaid funeral or an exhaust brake. The exhaust brake is cheaper. BD, Banks and Pacbrake all make good ones. Personally I have a Banks exhaust brake and it sure saves you.
 

klindgren

Retired Virginia Chapter Leaders
Been up and over the Smokies on 411 several times. Also been on the Cherohala Skyway couple of times. It was bunches of fun. Of course I was on two wheels, trying to scrap my footpegs and cussing those dang rv'ers who were going slow and spoiling my fun.:)

Knowing that road as I do, I sure wouldn't want to try it without an engine brake. I'd be afraid of not having enough brake pads left to get all the way off the mountain. I think I'd rather stay on 76 around the mountain than try to go over it. Then again, I'm a big chicken when it come to pulling 16,000+ pounds behind me.
 

MurrayN.

Well-known member
I too put in a big thumbs up for an exhaust brake. As you can see from my signature I have a PacBrake and absolutely love it as we frequently go through the Rocky Mountains here in Canada. Yes you do have some engine breaking with the Allison trans, tow/haul mode and the diesel motor, but it is nothing compared to a good exhaust brake. With mine I actually slow down going down an 8% grade pulling 10000 lbs of trailer. No stress. Now if you are on a slippery road then you have a whole new battle on your hands. Your back tires can actually break loose as they try to slow down the unit. But all in all I think the exhaust brake is one thing that I would not be without now that I have had one.
 

Rmcgrath53

Well-known member
Well we are back home safe and sound. I learned that an exhaust brake is in my future for sure.I am going to have to put new rotors and pads on the truck soon. I came home around the mountain .
Ron
 

Nabo

Southeast Region Director-Retired
"The most challenging part of the trip was actually doing a alternate route due to a total shut down of 40 going east."

Ron -Living in East Tennessee, I just wont to let everyone know that I-40 has been routed around Knoxville as I-640, a nice 3 lane bypass which is actually better than going thru downtown Knoxville on I-40. Traveling hasn't changed by the so called shutdown of I-40.
 

RVCamper

Well-known member
Nabo,

I'm aware of the bypass, but in our case, there was a large chemical spill (that's what the vistor center said it was anyway) that shut down the highway in both directions for 50 plus miles. We happened to be heading east from Kentucky Lakes to the Smoky's during the temporary shut down. :(
 
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lance114

Guest
The Smokey Mountains are around 5,000 foot Elevation. Just imagine more than twice that height as you travel through the Rocky Mountains with 54 peaks reaching altitudes of over 14,000 feet. Towing an RV up hills or mountains doesn't seem to be a problem these days with the power offered by GM Ford or Dodge!! But stopping or slowing down a truck towing 14,000 to 16,000 pounds of weight with gravity working hard against the brakes. Sure does make RV travel interesting..
 

Nabo

Southeast Region Director-Retired
FYI - interstate 40 is now open through downtown Knoxville, TN. No more bypass - unless you like going that way. It finished ahead of schedule. Thanks TDOT.
 

glow4004

Member
We accidently went up the mountain in Tennessee and came out just west of Pigeon Forge. What a ride that is! It seems like the mountain never stops. I know it had to be 15 to 20 miles. Heading down the mountain with a 39 foot 5th wheel is scary! Best part is I only had 500 miles on a rebuilt engine of a 2003 chevy 3500. They have a park patrol that drives back and forth just to check out vehicle conditions. Try it.. see for yourself. WILD!
 

porthole

Retired
Your back tires can actually break loose as they try to slow down the unit.

Put the truck into 4wd drive, that will lock the front and rear axles and help prevent your rear wheels from locking up


around the mountain than try to go over it.

Problem with going "around the mountain" is if you go to the west end you can have a bigger problem going through 28 and 129 :eek:

If you take 129 north because it looks good on the map :D oh my .......
 
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