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    Class A, NON commercial Driver Licence

    How many non CDL drivers have class A drivers licences? In PA, if the combine GVWR (TV plus trailer) is greater then 26,000 lbs, then a class A DL, or class A CDL is required. Example, TV - 12,200 GVWR and trailer - 14,000 GVWR = 26,200. Note, the mfg ratings (titled ratings) are used by the state, not the actual weight (weight going down the road) of each vehicle. So by the most part, anyone with a dually and a high profile 5th wheel will fit into this requirement.
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    Are you sure it is not the GCWR? seems like a lot of "overlap" if using both vehicles GVWR. I Know in TN they use the scale weight, so my 9,500# TV and 16,500# LM is really close to the 26,000# limit of my class D.
    Alan, Sandy, and 2 Corgis, Molly and Baxter


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    In PA, it is not the scale weights, it is the number printed on the sticker on the side of the camper and on the sticker on the door of the TV. The owner's card (provide by the state after a small mountain of money is turned over to them) also has the same number printed on it. Add to the two together, and the highway patrol will be looking for a class A if over 26,000 lbs
    Cheryl & Jim

    3500 Dodge 4x4
    CTD, 6 speed, Lockout hubs, 19.5 Ricksons. 5 inch exhaust, air horns! Pac Brake, maxbrake
    LED lights DIGITAL HID lights, high ram, front hitch, plus lots of gauges and go fast accessories.


    DRV, member of the suites

    Riding on 17.5 rims, "J" rated tires





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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselengineer View Post
    it is the number printed on the sticker on the side of the camper
    That works for me, Heartland forgot to put the weight stickers on my trailer. Could I convince a Penn HP the the Trailer GVWR was 0000#s???

    I am trying to get the correct stickers for the unit, but don't know how long this will take. Good luck with your Class A, My Wife is from Penn and she has tried to explain all the "oddball" inspections and vehicle registrations and other BS that is required. I don't think we'll be moving there.
    Alan, Sandy, and 2 Corgis, Molly and Baxter


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    My understanding, most states including the great state of Texas has the same licence requirements. Most do not follow the requirements, and are actual towing illegally without the required drivers licence endorsements
    Cheryl & Jim

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    LED lights DIGITAL HID lights, high ram, front hitch, plus lots of gauges and go fast accessories.


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    Riding on 17.5 rims, "J" rated tires





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    Since we are moving to Washington State I was researching the DL requirement and their web-sites states."By law, the following types of drivers are exempt and donít need a commercial driver license (CDL): Recreational vehicle (RV) operators are exempt when driving an RV for non-commercial purposes. This exemption includes 2-axle rental trucks and horse trailers." Most states have a similar clause.
    Alan, Sandy, and 2 Corgis, Molly and Baxter


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    I think all states are reciprical, that is if your home stste does not require a CDL for your RV the other states honor that.
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    I am not talking about requiring a CDL. As the title to this thread says, A NON commercial class A driver license. Please check your state requirements, your driver license is mostly limited to vehicles or combinations of vehicles up to 25,999 lbs GVWR. (Rating not scaled weights)
    Cheryl & Jim

    3500 Dodge 4x4
    CTD, 6 speed, Lockout hubs, 19.5 Ricksons. 5 inch exhaust, air horns! Pac Brake, maxbrake
    LED lights DIGITAL HID lights, high ram, front hitch, plus lots of gauges and go fast accessories.


    DRV, member of the suites

    Riding on 17.5 rims, "J" rated tires





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    Alan just out of curiosty where do you consider your home state?
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    Commerical Lic.

    Just remember the Class A (CDL) Lic is required by the Federal Goverment when your pulling trailers for pay that weigh over 26,000 lbs. I have had a commerical Lic since I was 21 years old. Back then you just told them what type Truck you were driving in Tennessee. Then when the Federal Government went to a nationwide Lic for commerical drivers I went and got my Commerical Class A (CDL). The test is very long and then for each indorsement there is a test and then a road test. Now some States require a none commerical type Lic. (think Money). I haven't seen this in person but have read were most of the test are very easy. I recomend you call your local State Lic place that issues your State Lic and find out what the requirement are. I have never seen a RVer pulled over by the State Commerical inforement police to be weight. Never ever met anyone who has been ticketed for being over weight in a RV in the lower 48 States. Our friends from the North have different requirements. I agree there are many people towing over weight for the type Truck they have. Ad lot of the D.O.T. people want have a clue what your talking about when you ask what type Lic you need for you RV. Many States do exempt RVer from Lic requirement to drive a RV. GBY....

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