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    Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    I believe others on the forum have done this and now it was my turn.

    What:
    Convert existing Winegard SK-3005 satellite system to Single Wire Multiplex.

    Why:
    My home has a home dish on the roof that has SWM built into it. I have an RV garage as part of my home. At time, I like to have the TVs usable in the RV while it's in the garage. For my own use and for use by guest that may be using the RV while they visit (this we've already done).

    I determined the parts needed (4) plus some shop supplies, ordered 3 of the parts off eBay and today was install day. I asked my friend, neighbor and Heartlander, HowardBJr to come over to assist. This install took about 2 hours from start to end, including testing and cleanup.

    Parts Needed:

    • 1 SWM8 Multiplex Switch
    • 1 Power Supply/Inserter
    • 1 Satellite Splitter (Needed a 2-way but an 8-way came with the bundle I bought)
    • A/B Switch (I had one that so far seems to work - though not tested to 2150 mHz)
    • Shop Supplies (RG-6 coax, RG-6 connectors, F-81 splices, marker ties, tie wraps, screws)

    Tools Used:

    • Coax Stripper
    • Coax Connector Compression Tool
    • Small Side Cutters
    • Screw Gun with Phillips Bit
    • Screw Driver with Square Bit

    Steps:

    1. My install was designed to be easily removed for when I move out of this demo coach as I want to take the SWM stuff with me to the next coach. I first determined where to mount the 4 items
    2. We removed the screws from all the TV wall plates in the UDC and pulled the plates out to expose all the cables/connectors. I had already previously toned all the lines and tagged them behind the plates. So one at a time, we removed the 4 satellite dish lines, extended them to the SWM8 and connected them up
    3. We removed the Living Room 1 and Bedroom 1 satellite lines, extended them to the satellite splitter and connected them up
    4. We added the A/B switch, ran a line from the B side to the jack in the UDC next to the Cable TV jack
    5. We ran a line from the A side of the A/B switch to the IRD port of the power supply
    6. We ran a line from the common port of the A/B switch to the input of the satellite splitter
    7. We ran a line from the SWM port of the power supply to the power input port of the SWM8
    8. We connected to home satellite signal to the jack in the UDC that connects to the B side of the A/B switch, set the switch to B, plugged the power supply into AC power and went inside the RV
    9. Turned on the TV and HD DVR and viola! It worked!!

    Note:
    I had already previously reconfigured the satellite receiver for my dish and switch type

    Here are some pictures from the project:
    Install - zoomed out.jpg Install - zoomed in.jpg SWM-8 Multiswitch, Power Supply and 8-Way Splitter.jpg AB Switch for RV vs Home Satellite Systems.jpg Winegard SK-3005 SWM Conversion.jpg

    I've attached a PDF of the wiring diagram for easier printing. It's from the Winegard website. I added the A/B switch to it.
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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    Very nice setup. You have a great schematic for a roof top setup. Could you modify the drawing for a temporary ground dish setup and post. I am streaming video from a computer at my home and it works great (no satellite or cable service needed). I am going to try to set that up in my Bighorn with a hot spot when we decide to go full time. If it does not work well I will need a setup for a dish which can be moved around.
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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    We would love to do that as well, however, many of the RV parks we stay in have LIMITS on the amount of data you can download over your internet connection. Doesn't this put a big crimp on streaming video??

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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    I am streaming video from a computer at my home and it works great (no satellite or cable service needed). I am going to try to set that up in my Bighorn with a hot spot when we decide to go full time.
    If you have a hot spot tethered to a cell data plan, it better be unlimited data or it will be hugely expensive. If you're planning on using campground wifi, forget it. They either have limits, or they don't have enough bandwidth to support video streaming except maybe at 3AM.

    For a standalone satellite dish, unless it's SWM, you don't need any of the stuff that Jim installed. Just connect the dish to the UDC satellite connector for your living room and connect the receiver to the satellite connector in the entertainment center.

    There are COAX wiring layouts in the tools/manuals section of the forum.


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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    Hi Steve,

    My project, converting my RV satellite system to SWM was done only to make it easy for me to connect the RV satellite receivers to my home satellite system. Most people won't need to do this sort of thing. But for those that do - hopefully my documentation will inspire them to do theirs.

    If you were to buy a ground mounted dish now, it will be SWM - so you won't need my conversion.

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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    Thanks for the info

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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    We converted our directv dish for the big country to the swm system mainly to have only one line from the portable dish to the coach. It wasn't hard to do since we don't have the roof mount. More power to you Jim for tackling a roof mount.
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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    Go info Jim!

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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nabo View Post
    ...More power to you Jim for tackling a roof mount.
    I can't take credit for it. I had Heartland mount the dish for me

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    Re: Converted Satellite System to SWM (single wire multiplex)

    JB,

    Since I am in the SAT world now all of this makes sense - didn't before.

    So, have you looked into the Genie upgrade?

    That is what we have. In the house it is one DVR and 3 "clients" for 4 TV's.
    #4, the spare bedroom relinquished it's client to the Cyclone's bedroom TV where it will stay for the season.

    When we leave the main receiver is moved to the trailer and sits on angle brackets behind the TV, not visible.
    The newest stuff comes with RF remotes, usable as either RF or IR. RF means no line of site and hidden is possible.

    What is a pretty neat feature is programming your TV to the remote. Besides giving you remote access, is that the remote, when using the main power button supplies a RF signal to the receiver followed by an IR signal for the TV.
    And it is smart enough to only turn on the TV if the receiver happens to be on. There is a separate button that only powers "off".

    Unlike several universal remotes I have tried over the years.
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