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    Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    I Purchased the Cyclone 3110 with a GVWR rating of 16,000 lb but The axle rating is for 7,000 lbs. ea. There are 2 axles, that would be 14,000 lbs total, no ?
    Does'nt that mean that my max. GVWR would 14,000 lbs ?
    Kinda confused. Does anyone have an answer ?
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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    I think part of the weight is considered to be on the pinbox.

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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    Hi extreme,

    Congratulations on your new Cyclone and welcome to the Heartland Owners Forum.

    Part of the weight of the trailer rests on the wheels and axles, and part rests on the hitch. On Fifth Wheels, the hitch is usually carrying around 18-20% of the Gross Vehicle Weight. So with a 16,000 lb GVWR, when fully loaded, you probably have around 3,000 lbs on the hitch and 13,000 on the wheels/axles.

    On toy haulers, if you put enough weight in the garage, you may end up with a bit less on the hitch. So maybe when fully loaded you might have 2,500 on the hitch and 13,500 on the wheels/axles.

    One thing to know is that the weight may not be evenly distributed on the wheels. So one axle could be carrying 6,500 and the other 6,000. On an axle carrying 6,500 lbs, one wheel could be carrying 3,350 and the other on that axle 3,150.

    If you have an opportunity to get the rig weighed with individual wheel weights, you should take advantage of it so you know what you're dealing with and can make sure you're not overloaded on any of the wheels or on the rear axle of the truck.


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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    Subtract the pin weight which is the part of the trailer weight actually carried by truck.
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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    OK, Great. That makes me feel better now. lol. I did not want to start a new adventure overloaded from the start. I got a lot to learn. This is our first time to Fifth wheel toy hauling. Even though nervous about the whole thing we are excited about going from a 36' Bounder to a Toy hauler. I think my wife will be happy to no have to look at all my toys ( or junk ) and I am happy to have a place to do repairs & fiddle around.

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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    Thank you everyone. Got a lot to learn. We are excited but nervous since it is our first time with fifth wheel & Toy haulers. We are going from a 2001,36 ' Bounder Motorhome and my wife will be happy to not have to look at all my junk and i am looking forward to have a garage to fiddle around and do my repairs. The Party deck with awning and clear plexiglass rear wall is also a great feature. I should be delivered from Ohio on Monday or so to the Crater Lake area of Oregon.
    Thanks again, Frenchie

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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    my 3010 has about 2200 lbs on the hitch. it weighs 12000 + 3400 cargo,h2o,etc= 15400-2200=13400on axels and that is if none of the 3400 is added to hitch. hope this helps.

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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    Depending on how you're rig is optioned, what gets loaded into the garage, and if you travel wet.....you could very well end up over on the axles. Best to check it on the scale before heading out. You model has a rather low CCC when compared to the other two axle Cyclones.

    Mine has been 3,150 on the pin and 14,550 on the axles WITHOUT either of the fuel tanks filled, less than 1/2 water, with Can Am Maverick and KTM 525 in the garage. It adds up fast! I'm adding a third axle as soon as all the parts come together.

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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCooter View Post
    Depending on how you're rig is optioned, what gets loaded into the garage, and if you travel wet.....you could very well end up over on the axles. Best to check it on the scale before heading out. You model has a rather low CCC when compared to the other two axle Cyclones.

    Mine has been 3,150 on the pin and 14,550 on the axles WITHOUT either of the fuel tanks filled, less than 1/2 water, with Can Am Maverick and KTM 525 in the garage. It adds up fast! I'm adding a third axle as soon as all the parts come together.
    Where are you adding a 3rd axle? I been wanting to do this myself but I have found that the 3rd axle should be set on the rear, yet the rear door is obstructing this. So are you moving the axles forward to make the room to do this??

    But the 300C should have been a Trip Axle in my opinion as well.

    How the heck are you fitting a Maverick and 525 in a 10ft garage? I have just a few inches to spare with my 900xp in there.


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    Re: Cyclone 3110. How does 2 axles rated 7000lb ea. make 16,000 lb GVWR

    Quote Originally Posted by extreme View Post
    I Purchased the Cyclone 3110 with a GVWR rating of 16,000 lb but The axle rating is for 7,000 lbs. ea. There are 2 axles, that would be 14,000 lbs total, no ?
    Does'nt that mean that my max. GVWR would 14,000 lbs ?
    Kinda confused. Does anyone have an answer ?
    Thanks,Frenchie
    Yes,20 percent of the weight is on the truck 3200lbs .... If fully loaded 12800lbs on the trailer axles.

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