Landmark 365 MSRP
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readytohitheroad
Well-known member
Re: Landmark MSRP - Updated 11-23-2013
Wow, 14% increase in base vehicle cost!
Wow, 14% increase in base vehicle cost!
kakampers
Past Heartland Ambassador
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
Wow! The price increase is really up there...hate to say it but I think this is actually gonna push a lot of people toward the high end units like DRV, Excel, etc....Landmark always gave a good value for the full timer somewhere between the mid level units and the high end units....hope they're not pricing themselves right out of the market...
Wow! The price increase is really up there...hate to say it but I think this is actually gonna push a lot of people toward the high end units like DRV, Excel, etc....Landmark always gave a good value for the full timer somewhere between the mid level units and the high end units....hope they're not pricing themselves right out of the market...
codycarver
Founding Wyoming Chapter Leader-retired
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
Add $319.00 for king bed IPO queen..... really???? $10,000 (give or take) in "forced options" then an $8,000 discount. Why not just give a real base price???? Kinda has a used car lot feel to me.
Add $319.00 for king bed IPO queen..... really???? $10,000 (give or take) in "forced options" then an $8,000 discount. Why not just give a real base price???? Kinda has a used car lot feel to me.
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
The term "forced option" is OEM-to-Dealer nomenclature. The MSRP sheets I put on the forum are the same ones we give to dealers - hence the nomenclature.
It would be nice if the MSRP we make publicly available had the forced options pricing baked into the base price of each floor plan and then remove the "forced option" nomenclature. This however is not up to me. I will bring it up to the sales team however.
The term "forced option" is OEM-to-Dealer nomenclature. The MSRP sheets I put on the forum are the same ones we give to dealers - hence the nomenclature.
It would be nice if the MSRP we make publicly available had the forced options pricing baked into the base price of each floor plan and then remove the "forced option" nomenclature. This however is not up to me. I will bring it up to the sales team however.
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TomMontague
Guest
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is what the final cost of the unit is. You can't look at a price sheet and say " WOW the price sure has gone up ". There are so many things different about the new LM365, there are so many things now standard that of course the base price is a bit higher but your " value " for the money has gone through the roof. At the end of the day i think you will find LM365 is a feature rich coach with a great exterior look that matches almost every pick-up and the final negotiated price from most dealers won't be much higher than previous Landmarks.
Please also note that we started with the biggest and heaviest coach in our line-up. The Newport has a bath and 1/2 and is 43' long. This is considerably larger than most past Landmarks. The 1st 4 LM365's are the bigger ones - each has gone down a significant amount in base cost. These are the full-time, permenant site or extended stay coaches for folks maybe done traveling for extended periods of time. The next group after the first 4 are going to be shorter and even less expensive. These will be the 36-39' models for the " on-the-go " folks who want to travel and see what North America has to offer.
We are working very hard to provide a coach that current owners will approve of and potential owners will want - all at a price that makes it affordable for most buyers. I think we are off to a great start and it will only get better from here...
Standard 8k Dexter axles and 17.5" H range tires.
Standard gen prep
Standard Energy Management System
Standard upgraded solid surface. ( countertop, buffet, sofa tables and back splashes )
Standard privacy window trim
Standard double sided island
Standard solid maple drawer boxes throughout.
Standard residential refer
Standard convection microwave
standard induction cook top
Standard farm sink with cutting board sink covers
Standard Waveland furniture collection
standard Waveland sleep system ( box spring and mattress )
Standard CPAP compatible night stands
Standard mirror / hidden bedroom TV
Standard with all exterior LED lighting
Standard peg / plate drawer
Standard divided silverware drawer
Standard Dish washer prep
These are the things I can think of off the top of my head that are standard items not previously offered on the Landmarks of yesterday.
I hope this helps to shed some light on a subject that needs to be talked about. It's important people know the truth and what they are getting ( or not getting ) in the coaches they are looking at.
Thanks for listening.
Tom
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is what the final cost of the unit is. You can't look at a price sheet and say " WOW the price sure has gone up ". There are so many things different about the new LM365, there are so many things now standard that of course the base price is a bit higher but your " value " for the money has gone through the roof. At the end of the day i think you will find LM365 is a feature rich coach with a great exterior look that matches almost every pick-up and the final negotiated price from most dealers won't be much higher than previous Landmarks.
Please also note that we started with the biggest and heaviest coach in our line-up. The Newport has a bath and 1/2 and is 43' long. This is considerably larger than most past Landmarks. The 1st 4 LM365's are the bigger ones - each has gone down a significant amount in base cost. These are the full-time, permenant site or extended stay coaches for folks maybe done traveling for extended periods of time. The next group after the first 4 are going to be shorter and even less expensive. These will be the 36-39' models for the " on-the-go " folks who want to travel and see what North America has to offer.
We are working very hard to provide a coach that current owners will approve of and potential owners will want - all at a price that makes it affordable for most buyers. I think we are off to a great start and it will only get better from here...
Standard 8k Dexter axles and 17.5" H range tires.
Standard gen prep
Standard Energy Management System
Standard upgraded solid surface. ( countertop, buffet, sofa tables and back splashes )
Standard privacy window trim
Standard double sided island
Standard solid maple drawer boxes throughout.
Standard residential refer
Standard convection microwave
standard induction cook top
Standard farm sink with cutting board sink covers
Standard Waveland furniture collection
standard Waveland sleep system ( box spring and mattress )
Standard CPAP compatible night stands
Standard mirror / hidden bedroom TV
Standard with all exterior LED lighting
Standard peg / plate drawer
Standard divided silverware drawer
Standard Dish washer prep
These are the things I can think of off the top of my head that are standard items not previously offered on the Landmarks of yesterday.
I hope this helps to shed some light on a subject that needs to be talked about. It's important people know the truth and what they are getting ( or not getting ) in the coaches they are looking at.
Thanks for listening.
Tom
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TomMontague
Guest
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
All brands at Heartland ( in fact industry wide ) do the same thing with the up/down packages. This isn't something unique to Landmark.
Thanks,
Tom
All brands at Heartland ( in fact industry wide ) do the same thing with the up/down packages. This isn't something unique to Landmark.
Thanks,
Tom
codycarver
Founding Wyoming Chapter Leader-retired
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
Don't be usin' them dictionary words with me. I've got a hard enough time keepin up with you guy's as it is. Amy just spent 10 minutes trying to explain "contemplative" to me.
If you mean
Then just say that.😃😃😃
Don't be usin' them dictionary words with me. I've got a hard enough time keepin up with you guy's as it is. Amy just spent 10 minutes trying to explain "contemplative" to me.
If you mean
Then just say that.😃😃😃
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
Tom:
I just made my first Landmark purchase and ordered the new Newport 365 and have a quick question. after looking at both the 2014 and 2015 Landmark models and going with the newport, i noticed that the 2015'ss don't seem to have the combined TV/stereo in the outside entertainment center but rather just the bare TV..is this accurate and if so, can you tell me why the stereo and outside speakers were dropped form the new 2015s? just curious
Owen Wheaton
Tom:
I just made my first Landmark purchase and ordered the new Newport 365 and have a quick question. after looking at both the 2014 and 2015 Landmark models and going with the newport, i noticed that the 2015'ss don't seem to have the combined TV/stereo in the outside entertainment center but rather just the bare TV..is this accurate and if so, can you tell me why the stereo and outside speakers were dropped form the new 2015s? just curious
Owen Wheaton
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TomMontague
Guest
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
The outside stereo and exterior speakers have been deleted at this time. It's something on my short list to work on but unfortunately we don't have anything to share at this time. I'm exploring all kinds of possibilities but nothing is jumping out as a clear leader at this point.
Thanks,
Tom
The outside stereo and exterior speakers have been deleted at this time. It's something on my short list to work on but unfortunately we don't have anything to share at this time. I'm exploring all kinds of possibilities but nothing is jumping out as a clear leader at this point.
Thanks,
Tom
codycarver
Founding Wyoming Chapter Leader-retired
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
I repeat....
How about a base price, list of options, done. Instead of this goofy car lot nonsense. This totaly turns me off.
I repeat....
How about a base price, list of options, done. Instead of this goofy car lot nonsense. This totaly turns me off.
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
I respectively disagree. I get that the forced option packages make it much more easier to add or remove individual products as opportunities develop during production. A great example is the standard #40 propane vs the #30 pound tanks. The option is no longer available as an upgrade. Its now part of the “Home” package. Yes- it affect the MSRP - but understanding the options and effect on MSRP make’s it easier to configure the perfect RV.
Just as the auto industry experienced - it got too laborious to order and manufacture a specific single unit on a production line. A great alternative is the “package option” model that most produced products have adopted.
I respectively disagree. I get that the forced option packages make it much more easier to add or remove individual products as opportunities develop during production. A great example is the standard #40 propane vs the #30 pound tanks. The option is no longer available as an upgrade. Its now part of the “Home” package. Yes- it affect the MSRP - but understanding the options and effect on MSRP make’s it easier to configure the perfect RV.
Just as the auto industry experienced - it got too laborious to order and manufacture a specific single unit on a production line. A great alternative is the “package option” model that most produced products have adopted.
TravelTiger
Founding Texas-West Chapter Leaders-Retired
granttg777
Member
Re: Landmark 365 MSRP - Updated 4-Sep-2014
We are very disappointed to see that theater seating is not an option in the Syracuse. Is it possible this will be changed?
Also, the decor options dont match the brochure or website. When will pictures be available for the different decors?
We are very disappointed to see that theater seating is not an option in the Syracuse. Is it possible this will be changed?
Also, the decor options dont match the brochure or website. When will pictures be available for the different decors?
