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    Buying new tow vehicle - advice

    We are new owners of a Cyclone 4200 Toy Hauler currently on order. What are your recommendations for a truck to pull 20000 lbs. We don't want to listen to a truck dealership's spiel but would rather start with advice from Heartland owners. Please respond with make/model, engine, transmission, rear end, reliability, gas mileage towing, etc.. Thanks so much! So excited to get started and become part of the Heartland family.

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    Re: Buying new tow vehicle - advice

    Although I'm very happy with my Ford, any of the big three 1 ton Dual Rear Wheel models should work for you. It really boils down to your personal preferences on looks, ride, etc.

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    Agree with Gus on personal preferences but for my 18000 pounder, my F450 doesn't work up a sweat, makes me feel secure on hills and in traffic, and rides sweeeeeet. Not the best on fuel mileage but better than m old 2008 F450. Lou
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    Re: Buying new tow vehicle - advice

    Quote Originally Posted by boatto5er View Post
    Although I'm very happy with my Ford, any of the big three 1 ton Dual Rear Wheel models should work for you. It really boils down to your personal preferences on looks, ride, etc.
    This nail it ........... I personally appreciate the Ford dually fender which is smaller and allows me to better access the fifth wheel hitch handle. The Ford seems to sit lower at the tailgate when not loaded as well; but again, personal preference should prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dognighttx View Post
    We are new owners of a Cyclone 4200 Toy Hauler currently on order. What are your recommendations for a truck to pull 20000 lbs. We don't want to listen to a truck dealership's spiel but would rather start with advice from Heartland owners. Please respond with make/model, engine, transmission, rear end, reliability, gas mileage towing, etc.. Thanks so much! So excited to get started and become part of the Heartland family.

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    WOW Ralph! Welcome from another Austinite. Did the RV show put you over the top or had you already made your choice? I believe you may be the 1st 4200 on this site. As mentioned, I think you will do fine with any of the Big 3's duallys. The 4.30 gears would be nice for towing, but towing is only about 20% of my miles and that too much for every day driving. The 3.73's pull the 18K rigs no problem, even if they are a couple thou over and in the mountains.
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    For me it's big trailer, big truck. IMG_20140126_100143391_HDR.jpg Have 2000 F-350 Power Stroke, DWR and this tows so much better. Stable in the wind, and stops on a dime. If I did anything different I would go to a HDT, I would never go backward. Just my 2 cents worth.
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    Your TV will depend on its use. Will it be a daily driver or just a TV. A daily driver...then a MDT is out. If it will be strickly a TV...then MDT is the way to go. You can find them cheaper than new 350-3500 and will handle the 4200 CY great. At 20K any 350-3500 will be at its max.
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    Re: Buying new tow vehicle - advice

    HL's site does not give the GVWR of the 4200, nor it's dry weight. It does show that it still comes standard with 3 x 6K axles. Just curious what it really weighs and how they derived at the 20K GVWR with 6K axles.

    I logged 38K on my F350 in a year. No way would I do that in a MDT.
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    Re: Buying new tow vehicle - advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dognighttx View Post
    We are new owners of a Cyclone 4200 Toy Hauler currently on order. What are your recommendations for a truck to pull 20000 lbs. We don't want to listen to a truck dealership's spiel but would rather start with advice from Heartland owners. Please respond with make/model, engine, transmission, rear end, reliability, gas mileage towing, etc.. Thanks so much! So excited to get started and become part of the Heartland family.

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    Congrats on the 4200. I'll just say get a Ford or Ram 350-3500 with the Diesel, best tranny option, and at least a 3.73 but preferably a 4.10 rear end. Ram has a super detailed towing guide, hidden on the website. A well equipped Ram 3500, crew cab, 4x4 with a 4.10 will tow a 28k trailer. (Yes, 28k for the trailer, with a 37K gross combined.)

    The ford 350 or 450 will handle the 4200 just as well, if equipped with the diesel, DRW and the right axle. I think GM is trying to catch up for 2015, but I don't know their specs.

    Welcome the the site, and please please please post pictures of your 4200. Most of us have only seen the photos Heartland has up on their website. When do you take delivery?
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    Re: Buying new tow vehicle - advice

    Standing in a 4200 at a show I heard a salesperson say a 3/4 ton would tow it, but if you are going into any hills or mountains a 1 ton was a better choice. Luckily, the woman he was talking to said, "I don't want to skimp on the truck. I'd rather be safe than sorry."

    Don't believe a salesperson!!! 1 ton or more! And make sure it can carry the loaded pin weight!


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