Intermittent Lippert Level-Up operation

Dan54

Active Member
I’ve been having issues with my Level-Up operation in my 2011 Landmark for a couple years. About 18 months ago my batteries voltage dropped to around 11 volts when I tried to raise the front to hook up. That was after the trailer had been sitting at a campground for 3 months tied into 30 amp service that was powered up the entire time. So I replaced the batteries since I figured they had to be the issue. Now I’m not so sure. With the end of the season last fall as I was attempting to pull the trailer the same thing happened.
When I dropped it off for storage I asked the mechanic to troubleshoot. He said the batteries tested good but he did find a couple loose connections he tightened up. He then tested repeatedly & it worked fine. Yesterday I arrived to pull the trailer out of storage. The mechanic had used the Level-Up when he pulled the trailer outside earlier in the day. When I powered it on it did exactly what it did in the fall. Jacks didn’t move & in a couple seconds the Level-Up powered itself down. Looked at the voltage screen & the voltage was below 12 volts.
Mechanic said there must be a unknown drain on the batteries even though the battery switch had been in the off position. We hooked it up to his golf cart which had jumpers & the voltage went up to about 17 volts on the Level-Up screen but it still would not move. He said it could be the motor or controller is aging & requires more amps as a result. That & the fact that it was in the high twenties yesterday during the time it was sitting out for 5-6 hours he thought the hydraulic fluid might have thickened making it hard to function.
It seems to me there may be a short somewhere. When we were working on it yesterday for quite a while the jacks wouldn’t move at all. He even got his towmotor out & lifted the front up to take the pressure off the front jacks. Then he tried the rear jacks & it boom started working both front & rear. So I’m at a loss. If it is a short I’m not sure how to figure out where it’s at. Mechanic said he would contact Lippert but he has other things to worry about I’m not sure when he’ll get around to it. Any suggestions? Thanks


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Dahillbilly

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a short would have blown a fuse somewhere, I'm wondering if you have a defective control button, since all started working after the rear was activated. The 20's for air temperature shouldn't have that much effect on the ATF in the system. You can call Lippert Customer Service & they will help you out. Also the Lippert Communities App is the best place for all RV'ing concerns, products etc. They have a tab just for documents on different systems Lippert makes & training on different systems including Level up. Added bonus it's all free. Keep us posted
 

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Staff member
You absolutely have a parasitic drain on your battery. For storage it's best to disconnect the neutral battery cable.
You level up system is protected by an auto-reset 12 volt 50 amp breaker. Follow the heavy red cable from the solenoid (Trombeta) on the level pump to the bank of 12 volt breakers. They should be covered with red boots. If you are not the original owner those boots might be missing. When you locate the breaker that the heavy red cable is attached to, replace the breaker. They are about ten bucks. Be sure to disconnect the neutral battery cable before commencing with the work.
Also be sure to check all level system plugs.
Those breakers are notorious for failing. I carry spares.

Peace
Dave
 

Dan54

Active Member
Thanks for the input. Normally disconnect battery cable at the end of the season. Might have missed that last fall. On the breaker I could hear It resetting after the power to the Level-Up went off so I think it’s ok or should I replace it anyway?
Still doesn’t make sense to me that it would immediately fail after unplugged from shore power for only a couple minutes.


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For the ten or so bucks I would replace it. It's about a five minute job.
I've replaced mine and several others for the reasons you have described.

Peace
Dave
 

Dan54

Active Member
Mechanic talked to Lippert. Their diagnosis was to replace the touchpad & the main control board. Touchpad is still available, control board is no longer manufactured. Lippert recommended a company that repairs the control boards. Will be contacting them. In the meantime for this trip will use in manual mode which is less problematic (hopefully) than auto mode. Ordered replacement breakers that should be here before we leave Sunday.


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scayne62

Member
There was a relay/overload breaker (I cannot recall which) in my system that I had to beg them to take a look at, it was a known issue with weak relays/overload breaker I read about. since replaced I have had no issues with this.
 

wdk450

Well-known member
You might look into getting a small portable solar panel trickle charger to keep connected while the trailer is in storage.
 
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