SOLVED: Landmark - no power to outlets

hlamere

Member
lost power to all outlets of both sides of back of fifth wheel, checked fuses, breakers, and traced for loose wires in outlets, nothing is pointing us to the problem we have. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 

cookie

Administrator
Staff member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

Hlamere, welcome to finally posting on this great forum.
It might help a lot if we know what year and floorplan your Landmark is.
Someone with the same may be able to pinpoint the problem.
Which receptacle exactly are not working? The one in the slides, on the wall, kitchen, livingroom??
If you have not yet done so I suggest that you turn each breaker off then on again. Sometimes they are tripped but a visual does not tell the story.
One common cause is that the GFI in the bathroom can be tripped. Have you reset that?

Peace
Dave
 

Hunter11

Well-known member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

I am with Dave, I have seen a GFI plug cause a lot of issues with power to different plugs in an RV.
 

jbeletti

Well-known member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

Hlamere,

Welcome to the Heartland Owners Forum! Hope you check back here for these responses :)

If by "back of fifth wheel", you mean the two outlets in the rear cap, I have an idea for you.

Generally, the way the outlets in the LM are wired for the slides and rear cap are as follows...

A Romex-type wire comes out of AC power center (breaker) and goes into underbelly. Wire comes out of underbelly through the frame and into a metal junction box on the frame under the door side slide.

In that junction box, another piece of Romex-type wire is spliced to the feed and returns to the underbelly area. It then makes its way to the rear cap area to the outlet in the cap, closest to the door side of the coach. That wire then jumps over to the other outlet in the cap.

The wire then goes back into the underbelly area, out through the frame and into a junction box on the frame under the off door side slide.

This all said, I suspect a loose connection at one or more wire nuts in the junction box on the frame under the door side slide. Here's what I would do:

  1. Turn the AC power off to the RV to ensure the line is not hot
  2. Remove the cover plate from the junction box
  3. Inspect the splices. You may find one loose and maybe even some burned insulation
  4. Tighten all wire nuts and remake any that were bad/burned etc.
Only take the above steps if you are comfortable in doing so. If not, seek qualified assistance.
 

hlamere

Member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

We have reset gfi, checked fuses, reset all, the rig is a keylargo, no power to outlets completly surrounding kitchen livingroom on both sides, and refrigerator has switched to gas, we do have one outlet in center island that is working, micro and fireplace are dedicated outlets and are functioning. Still perplexed.
 

donr827

Well-known member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

Have you checked the campground pedestal itself to make sure you have good power to that point? Not sure how your trailer is wired. Don
 

kakampers

Past Heartland Ambassador
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

We had a similar problem with our Key Largo...turned out that the plug on the entertainment center with the USB plug went bad...went to Lowes and bought a replacement...all is well again...
 

danemayer

Well-known member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

The 50 amp service at the pedestal has 2 110V circuits that come into the coach and go to the circuit breaker panel. Each of the 2 circuits feeds power to 1/2 of the circuit breakers. Anytime you lose power to a bunch of stuff, but not everything, it may mean that one of the 2 power legs isn't working. Often this is a problem with the campground pedestal. If you have a volt-meter, you can check the voltage at the receptacle. The left and right pins should each have 110V to ground or neutral.

If you have a twist-lock power cord, it might not be seated properly. If you have generator prep, there's a transfer switch that could also be the culprit.

If you have an on-board Onan generator, see if the problem goes away with the generator running. That would confirm that the problem is either with the pedestal, or power cord, or transfer switch.
 

jbeletti

Well-known member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

hlamere,

Have you checked the wire nuts in that junction box yet? That and missing one leg of AC power per Dan Mayer are the likely culprits.
 

hoefler

Well-known member
Re: ATF: Landmark - no power to outlets

The 50 amp service at the pedestal has 2 110V circuits that come into the coach and go to the circuit breaker panel. Each of the 2 circuits feeds power to 1/2 of the circuit breakers. Anytime you lose power to a bunch of stuff, but not everything, it may mean that one of the 2 power legs isn't working. Often this is a problem with the campground pedestal. If you have a volt-meter, you can check the voltage at the receptacle. The left and right pins should each have 110V to ground or neutral.

If you have a twist-lock power cord, it might not be seated properly. If you have generator prep, there's a transfer switch that could also be the culprit.

If you have an on-board Onan generator, see if the problem goes away with the generator running. That would confirm that the problem is either with the pedestal, or power cord, or transfer switch.

Another way to check for a dropped leg on the 50 amp, is to use a dog bone adaptor, 50 amp - 30 amp, and plug into the 30 amp receptacle, if everything works then, you know the pedestal is the culprit.
 

hlamere

Member
Re: Landmark - no power to outlets

Thank you all so much for your help, it turned out to be a loose wire in the back junction box under the slide. All is back in working order.
 
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