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jwalker1
06-20-2011, 10:37 AM
Good Morning All,

I have a 2011 Cyclone 3950 HD and can't figure out how the roof vent over the garage got opened. I can't find a button to push inside and don't remember opening it in the first place. Is there some magic button inside to open and close the vent. I have the side vents opened but can't figure out how in the hect that vent was opened. TIA for any assistance.

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Bob&Patty
06-20-2011, 11:01 AM
Joe, dumb question. Is it a "fantastic fan?? If it is, then its on a thermostat on the wall. If not..then I give up.

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 11:05 AM
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Joe

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brianharrison
06-20-2011, 11:36 AM
If it is a manual crank vent then I have had instances where this type of vent has "worked its way open" just from travelling down the highway if it was not tightly closed before hand. Don't ask me how it did this, but I suspect it was from eddy currents and vibration that sucked it open. Cranking it closed with a firm hand helped it from happening again.

Your side vents open when travelling may also have created an air imbalance (between inside and outside) and pushed it open as well? I know, this might be stretching a bit but who really knows? I travel with two vents open (covered with max airs). Years ago, travelling on gravel roads my dad used to give me heck for having the rear window open in the back because it "sucked in" gravel dust (slider rear window on a 1/2 ton truck) without a front vent window open.

If it is a real problem, you can put a Max Air vent cover on it and just leave it open.

Hope this helps.

Take care,
Brian

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 11:48 AM
Brian,

Don't know where there would be a crank? This vent can't even be seen from the inside of the garage......

Joe

Bob&Patty
06-20-2011, 11:56 AM
Joe, then this might sound really dumb. How do you know its open if you cant see it?? You got me really confused. Is it something you can hear or see only from the outside??

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 12:00 PM
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We were sitting on the back deck at our house and saw it. It's on the door side of the Cyclone. But when I go inside I can't see it.

Joe
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brianharrison
06-20-2011, 12:43 PM
Brian,

Don't know where there would be a crank? This vent can't even be seen from the inside of the garage......

Joe

Peculiar you cannot see the vent from inside - unfortunately I have not been in a 2011 3950 so cannot picture where the vent is on the roof relative to inside access. Maybe another owner of a 2011 3950 can chime in....

Sorry I cannot help you any more.....

Take care,
Brian

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Thanks again Brian....It's weird that I can't find a switch/crank to close it. Maybe when it was being washed it popped open.

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brianharrison
06-20-2011, 12:57 PM
Thanks again Brian....It's weird that I can't find a switch/crank to close it. Maybe when it was being washed it popped open.

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Do you have a fridge in the garage at the front (door side) - I went on to the Heartland web and looked at the pictures of your unit and one is shown there. Maybe it a vent for that fridge?

Can you post a picture of your roof showing the vent (taken from your deck?)

Take care,
Brian

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 01:07 PM
I do have a fridge in the garage and yes it is right by the side door to the garage. I will look there to see if there is a crank/button to push.
Thanks so much for the assistance Brian.

Joe
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brianharrison
06-20-2011, 01:10 PM
Maybe the mystery is partly solved. I am not sure how Heartland vents this fridge if it is a standard RV fridge (ie ammonia cooling coils). If it is a standard 110V fridge then I'm stumped.

Take care,
Brian

Lou_and_Bette
06-20-2011, 01:36 PM
I don't have a Cyclone, but in my 405RW, there is a vent over the loft (bed) area that is above the garage and not seen from in the garage. Not sure if this is same on yours

Lou

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 02:05 PM
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No I have a Fantastic Fan above the bunk/couches that are at the rear of the garage. This is almost straight up from the second refrigerator in the garage. I think Brian is right on when he said it's probably for venting the refrigerator. I will check tonight when I get home from work. Thanks for the info though.

Joe
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Lou_and_Bette
06-20-2011, 02:11 PM
Joe, I also have the beds that come down from the ceiling in my garage that have a Fantastic vent above them but I am talkig about a bed space that is above the garage, not in it. It is accessed by climbing a ladder in the main living area of the TH and above that bed there is a regular vent that opens and closes with a hand crank.

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 02:50 PM
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Looks like my last post didn't make it.....I would have never thought of this but you are exactly right. I will check this evening when I get home from work. Is your 405RW the same floor plan as the 3950? Sure are nice TH's.

Joe
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Lou_and_Bette
06-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Joe, I'm not sure if the floor plan is the same, we looked at a Cyclone HD but went with the Road Warrior. I think some things are similar but not exact. Yes, they are great TH's and the only thing that surprised me was the first time I unloaded my 09 Ultra was the steepness of the ramp, front brake locked but the weight of the bike plus my 225+ slid the front tire almost all the way down the ramp...that was an eye opening experience

jwalker1
06-20-2011, 03:26 PM
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Lou_and_Bette
06-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Joe, I have no problem loading my Ultra with the dove tail on the rear of the garage deck have never bottomed out, just keep the power on until you're on level decking. Unloading is another issue but your suggestion was excactly what I was going to try the next time I unloaded. Not sure the ramp is "that slippery" more just the laws of gravity and since we are about the same weight but my Ultra adds another 250# to total being dragged down. Hope you find that vent control above the loft when you get home. I'm headed home my self

Riverman
06-20-2011, 04:02 PM
Our 2011 3950 has 2 roof vents near the rear. The very rear one is above the electric beds in the garage. The next one is between the 2 loft beds. There is no roof vent required for the garage refrigerator as they are not powered by propane - electric only.

brianharrison
06-20-2011, 04:09 PM
Our 2011 3950 has 2 roof vents near the rear. The very rear one is above the electric beds in the garage. The next one is between the 2 loft beds. There is no roof vent required for the garage refrigerator as they are not powered by propane - electric only.

I bet this solves the mystery for Joe (orignal poster).

Take care,
Brian

trvlrerik
06-20-2011, 08:49 PM
On my Cyclone the thermostat control is up high in the recessed area that the bunk beds fill up when fully raised up. when the beds are only partially raised it does hide the thermostat that controls the fan. It works great when the bunk beds are down in place and the person on the top bunk can control it.

jwalker1
06-21-2011, 06:34 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. Ya'll are great. Found the crank and it was above the loft beds in the living room. Lou, someone here on the site told me about not starting the bike but to use the clutch to back it down the ramp. Makes sense since the front brakes will cause the bike to slide on the ramp when it's so steep. Has anyone ever tried winching the bike up backwards so that it's facing the back of the Toy Hauler. Then you could just ride it down......

Joe

Lou_and_Bette
06-21-2011, 06:43 AM
Joe, I thought of the wench but didn't know if I could operate and guide the bike. I also thought about using my bike jack to turn it around once I had the bike in the TH but wasn't sure about the dipples in the floor. Glad you got the vent closed. Hope to see you on the road some time. We just put the house on the market and hoping it will sell so I can retire/retire (2nd time for me) and hit the road full time after the first of the new year. Stay safe
Lou

jwalker1
06-21-2011, 07:13 AM
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Don't know what's happening when I try to reply but this is the second time I hit Post Reply that it didn't happen. Anyways we put our house up for sale back in April and I will be retiring for the second time also (ret AF E-7). I am currently working for the US Federal Courts as a Computer Systems Engineer at their main Help Desk in San Antonio. We will be heading to Wyoming (Grand Teton's) in May of next year and from there to Calif to see the Redwoods and then on up to Washington state to visit the DW's brother. I hope to be in Sturgis, SD for the rally next August. Be safe my friend and Ride to Live Live to Ride. Hope to see you on the road sometime.
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porthole
06-24-2011, 07:15 PM
Joe, I'm not sure if the floor plan is the same, we looked at a Cyclone HD but went with the Road Warrior. I think some things are similar but not exact. Yes, they are great TH's and the only thing that surprised me was the first time I unloaded my 09 Ultra was the steepness of the ramp, front brake locked but the weight of the bike plus my 225+ slid the front tire almost all the way down the ramp...that was an eye opening experience

I never use the front brake. Using the front brake unloads the front tire and locks it up, once locked and going backwards it is almost impossible to gain control.
You need your balance so that just about negates using the rear brake.

Put it 1st gear, engine off and just "clutch" down the ramp. Works great. As you let the clutch out you are "loading" the rear tire and actually increasing the braking effectiveness.

As for going in the trailer - if you haven't done it yet it can be unnerving. I "aim - go - commit" Once I head up the ramp I don't stop till the front wheel is in the trailer/off the ramp.
I also have a 12 volt winch mounted in the forward left corner to use in case the ramp and or bike is wet.