I have a 2011 3800 and it weighs in at 18620 fully loaded with toys, water, fuel, food, etc., which is the worst case as I would not pull it very far filled like that. The pin weight is 3540 with the axle weights at 14980. I pull it with a 08 Ford F-450 which weigths in at 10520 with a 100 gals...