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Great thread. Amazing upgrades!

Nice job Louie. Great idea with the extra metal straps. Did you add a drain valve, or just a line out to the pump only? Rod

Re: Last year of 3010? 2009 was the last model year for the 3210. At least one 2010 model 3210 was made in the summer of '09 and was posted here by Gzopete.

Re: My 2010 3010 trailer wieghts w F250.... It's pretty tough to stay within the sticker weight on a 3010. I added 4 GC batteries which each weigh about 60 lbs each. So there's another 240 lbs to my dry weight. Once I fill the gas tank, add a bit of water, load the BBQ, and some food and...

Re: My 2010 3010 trailer wieghts w F250.... I weighed mine as soon as I bought it. Mine weighed in at 12200 dry. About the same as yours if you dumped the fluids. That leaves 1800 lbs cargo capacity according to sticker. But technically you could load another 4000 lbs on those axles and...

Doug, There was really no room to tilt the tanks, because there is a bar runnng horizontally directly above the tanks. Maybe a half inch of play on my unit. Rod

Doug, I'm sure its the best to have a plastic welder install permanent fittings, but as you said, this was much simpler. We'll see how they hold up long-term. I do think it's probably best to have the pump draw from both tanks so that there is no issue with equalization or concern about the...

OK. I finally did my tank fix. First of all, a big thank you to Doug W. for his posts and photos. They really helped me a lot, even though I did it a bit different than he did. Here's how the project went. It took me about five hours, but I had a couple beers on the way. :-) First I...

I agree. I love my Cyclone, but there should absolutely be factory solution for owners of prior units with this problem. 30+ gallons of standing, unaccessable water is no small issue. I'm glad Heartland has solved the problem on new units, but am frankly a bit amazed that owners of prior...

X4 for me. I'd buy that option in a heartbeat.

Great job Yianni. Thanks for posting. Love the pics. And I assume you added a 30A breaker to your main panel to go to the inverter??? Rod

That's correct Manke. The Cyclone 3850 has three 6K axles. That's how Cyclone arrives at their 18K GVWR. They don't add or consider the weight carried by the king pin in the GVWR. Other manufacturers add the weight that the king pin carries to the combined weight rating of the axles to...

When comparing GVWR's, be sure to look into how they rate their units. The Cyclone rates the GVWR based on axle's only. 18,000 lbs on three 6000 lb axles. They don't count pin weight. The Open Range has three 5,200 lb axles giving 15,600 lb axle rating, but then they add the pin weight load...

I'd personally go with a 450 dually. Considering your altitude in CO and the loads you've described, you want to go with a big gun. And remember, it's not always about how much you can pull, but how much you can stop - especially in the mountains. Another thing: I also highly recommend...

Unlike the 2.8, the 5.7 is a variable speed pump, with a pressure sensor that regulates the amount of water to pump based on the demand. A 90 degree bend on the inlet and outlet sides of the pump are not likely a problem for the 2.8, but they are for the 5.7. The sensor does add a level of...

Yianni, You have the same pump I do. A Shurflo 5.7. My Shurflo 5.7 stopped working on the first day of my very first trip - after about 2 hours of use. After an internet search, it seems others have had some problems with the 5.7. It seems to center around the pressure sensor going bad...

HT, I can't explain the current draw if the pump is switched "off", but I would expect a draw if it is switched "on" (from either location) even if it is not actually running - if only to power the red light. It sounds as if your three-way switching is working correctly. If the pump is "on"...

HT, If you're talking about the pump switch on the control panel (inside the coach), and the pump switch on the docking station (outside the coach) - then either of them will turn the pump on and off independently. They do not both have to be on at the same time. I've never really noticed...

Laurent: Not according to my unit's instructions. It's OK to mount underneath a horizontal surface, but not under the hood of a vehicle or in a zero-clearance area. My unit does have a built in fan though, so that may be the difference. Here is my user manual...

2 gauge wire at five feet. I've also got a separate battery off switch for the inverter, as well as a 150A marine circuit breaker - both on the positive line to the inverter. Those are on the back wall of the battery compartment and are visible in the first photograph. The large 2 gauge wires...

I thought about adding the extra GC batteries in the basement storage, but I didn't want to give up the room. I finally found a 4 GC battery container at marinenutz.com called a Dyno battery box that fits inside the front battery compartment, which I vented to the existing outside vent...

Great looking rig! Enjoy it! Sweet truck too.

Great mod Yianni! I'm definitely going to do that. Rod

Doug, A huge THANK YOU for sharing this !!!!! This will help me with my project immensely, and hopefully many others. Rod

A pick-up would certainly get more water out of the tanks than the current factory set-up, but it does not solve the entire problem. The pick-up will only drain the aft tank that the pump currently draws from. We still have the problem of the forward tank not fully draining into the aft tank...

Doug, So that fitting in fig 271, dropping down through the new cut-out support board - Will it also be dropping down below your bottom fabric cover? In other words, will it and the connecting hose be exposed and visible underneath your carriage? I'm assuming your fabric cover will be...

Doug, THANKS a TON! for posting these great pics and explaining the problem and what your solution is. These pictures and explanations are GOLD - and are very much appreciated. It's pretty clear looking at these why we are all having this problem and it makes me wonder about the answer I was...

Doug, I second Manke on that. I'm very appreciative of your time to post and show what you're doing. I'll begin my fix as soon as we thaw here - I expect in March - and I'll post it too. I'm still somewhat amazed that a specific, common, engineered solution hasn't been offered up by HL...

Thanks for the update Luke. I'm looking forward to hearing from you on exactly what they did after it's all complete. I've held off on mine for now, as we're well into our Northwest winter up here, but once things thaw out this is a top priority that must get resolved before the next RV...

Excellent. I'm going to get a T connector also, so the BBQ and coach hoses can always stay connected. Thanks for the link. I also have the Coleman Road trip. Great little BBQ.

Yianni, I can't imagine you'd have much left in your water tanks so it doesn't sound like you've got any problem with yours. It also sounds like your pump is drawing very well from your tanks. That's excellent. Especially if you consider that your pump removes water that even the drain tube...

Yianni, When you say you drained it, are you talking about the drain tube underneath the coach, or about drawing water through the pump and then measuring it? Also, are you bypassing your hot water tank in your measurement process, or has water accumulated in it? What happens to my 3010 is...

Hi Luke, Until someone smarter chimes in on this . . . I'll offer what I do. It's real simple. I use the tank on the off-door side for the main coach, and connect a BBQ line to the door-side tank - in place of the main coach line. It of course has it's own BBQ regulator, a ten foot hose that...

Luke, The Northwest rep I spoke with is Gary Randolf. I'm not sure if he covers So-Cal. Call the number Jim gave us and they'll connect you with the right rep. He said they were all discussing this issue in their service meeting this morning. Rod

I spoke on the phone this morning with my regional Heartland service manager. He has seen this issue before and has found it was caused by the draw tank being higher than the fill tank. If the fill tank is raised a bit, and/or the draw tank lowered it should solve the problem, however he has...

I called today, but got sent to voicemail. I'll post what I find out from customer service as soon as I talk to them. Rod

Thanks Jim. Rod

Jim, Are we to take this non-response as an indication that this issue is closed, and Heartland has no factory solution to this problem for it's owners? Rod

Jim, Is this the "final statement" from Heartland regarding this issue? Or can we expect any further response as to a specific factory solution to remove the water from our tanks? Thanks in advance. Rod

Yianni, Glad to hear you finally got it! We are very pleased with our 3010 too. It is a very well built unit - much better than our previous 5th wheel from another manufacturer. Ours has functioned great too. The only issue we had with ours was the Shurflo water pump went out, but Shurflo...