Ford Cold Running in the morning...

[TXBobcat]

When I started my 2006 F250 in the morning, I drove out to the highway (2 lane) and started to accelerate it ran like a dog and almost would not shift. I had to let off the accelerator to let it shift and thought I was going to get run over.

I took it to my Ford Dealer and their answer is they can not get it to throw a code.
While stopped at Braums I talked to a fellow that had the same truck and he said his was a dog until it warmed up. I don't remember mine running like this since I bought it, but I may have let it warm up and never noticed...

Have you that have diesels, have you had a similar problem... Or is it a problem...

Funny how you don't catch something until you change your way of doing things.

I would like your input please.

BC

 

[jnbhobe]

Bob; Both of mine will do that on the first start of the day and it is cold out. The one I drive all the time will even smoke a little if its sitting outside.

 

[DougS]

I have a 2005 F205 and this summer I had a similar problem. I had a real hard time starting and it ran sour for about 10 minutes, barely shifting. After about 10 minutes it ran great all day. Then one morning it would not start. Mine was the fuel injector modular. A very expensive fix, but it ran great after the fix. I was told this is a weakness in the 6.0 engine.

 

[timbuktu]

TX Bob, I have a 06 F-350 PS. I have the same issue when it's cold outside and the truck has been sitting for a few hours. I always let the engine warm up to around 80 degrees before putting it in drive. Or you can plug your block heater in when it gets cold down there then in the morning you'll be good to go.

TX Tim

 

[TXBobcat]

Well it looks like this is the way of the Beast.

Thanks for the replys..

BTW... DougS I already had the FICM changed out. Thanks for the heads up..

BC

 

[BHEWITTJR]

go back to the dealer and tell them you want your ecm reflashed to help with cold weather start up. it reprograms the ecm so there is a small current ( mili amps ) to the injectors. it keeps a small plunger in the top of the injector warm and moving free. when it's cold is when they tend to get sticky and the rough idle,smoke, and slugishness happen. it's a common problem with the 6.0

 

[hoefler]

Another thing to check, especially if you have a very hard to start condition, is the glow plugs and relays. Ford is noted for losing a glow plug or two.

 

[lwmcguir]

We never had any issues with our 6.0 engines at all in the cold. Our 7.3's with turbos need to warm up a bit more. Has to be something that needs attention.

 

[porthole]

Bob - how cold is "cold"?
Fuel gelling could be the cause. Additives could help.

 

[caissiel]

The Ford 6.0L is programed to keep the Turbo vanes closed to allow faster warmup and recycle the EGR gases in the intake manifold. The transmission on my friends automatic is also slow to shift when started cold.

I have the stick and I take off as soon as the engine turns but I did that with my friends and it took about 2 miles before the truck was ok. It was a fall cold start at around 30F.

 

[TXBobcat]

Bob - how cold is "cold"?
Fuel gelling could be the cause. Additives could help.

Duane - I don't think it is cold enough for the Diesel to gell. It could be say 45* and still run rough.

Thanks
BC

 

[HarleyRyder]

I'm not a Ford owner but I had a similar problem with my 2006 Dodge 5.9. A trip to the dealer and a reflash of the computer cured the problem.

Here is some interesting reading for you 6.0 guys. http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f23/cold-weather-coughing-stalling-272036/

 

[TXBobcat]

I read HarleyRyders link. Mine has no trouble starting. Talked to the dealership and they have 3 injectors having a problem.

Going to get it done under extended warranty. Should pick it up tomorrow. Not sure if that will fix the problem but it should help.

BC

 

[TXBobcat]

Ford has asked for all of my maintenance records. I change my oil and filter rather than take it to Ford or a service business. If I had taken my truck to Ford dealers they do not have a common database so not much different.

I don't keep all of my reciepts for oil, filters or other maintenance work I do. I do have all of my repair at Ford dealers because of the warranty on parts and labor for something like my air conditioner replacement. It will have a year warranty.

I did give them a print out of the purchase of all parts and repairs from my Quicken software. This seemed to make them happy, maybe. Waiting to hear what they are going to get done.

I have an extended warranty up to 200k miles.

What do some of you that have a warranty. Do you have reciepts for all the work you have done and how would you get all the reciepts to the mfgr?

BC

 

[jnbhobe]

Bob; I keep reciepts for all work done on the trucks, especially the oil changes and filter changes. Thats one of Fords main checks on warranty repair. But there is no better extended warranty than the Ford ESP. You just have to watch your P's and Q's.

 

[TXBobcat]

It would be a real task to give all the reciepts for things like oil & filter changes. I have the reciepts on all the work done by Ford, but each Ford dealer keeps only their repair information.

My dealer called and said that Ford accepted the document I sent them from the Quicken printout.

Will pick the truck up on Monday.

BC

 

[Moose]

It would be a real task to give all the reciepts for things like oil & filter changes. I have the reciepts on all the work done by Ford, but each Ford dealer keeps only their repair information.

My dealer called and said that Ford accepted the document I sent them from the Quicken printout.

Will pick the truck up on Monday.

BC

Whewwwww . . . . a sigh of relief. LoL.

Good for you. And good job with the Quicken. I store all my receipts in used shopping bags. What a mess. Hope I never need to retrieve anything.

 

[HarleyRyder]

That's great news. I subscibe to the shopping bag filing system. Or is it in the center console. Hmmm... maybe under the seat.

 

[rustyshakelford]

we have this issue with every 6.0 we have at work. when cold, they are terrible. as soon as they warm up a bit they act normal. They are by far the most weather affected truck i have ever drove. Decent power when warm but scary slow when cold. they also like to blow blue smoke when cold also. We have had nothing but problems out of them. Granted when we get in them, its to the floor until we get where were going...literally!

brett

 

[porthole]

My dealer called and said that Ford accepted the document I sent them from the Quicken printout.

Just curious Bob, did Ford say which federal law they were deciding to fight by requiring you to provide receipts?

The manufacturer can not require you to prove maintenance, it is incumbent on the manufacturer to prove you did not - and that is just about impossible.

Obviously it can make your life easier to just provide what they asked for, but it is not required.

I have used Quicken since the very first issue, and it would take me no more then a half hour to give them any report they were looking for.

I did 18+ years in new car dealers - can't force the customer to prove.
I had a warranty issue with my Harley that Harley refused repairs.

Couple of notes sent with the right info to the right people and they were more then happy to take care of my warranty issue.

Everyone should at least read the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act synopsis. the

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act