Wall framing question

[ROdell67]

I was able to get structural drawings from Heartland for our Torque 327, You can also see where the studs are on a cool morning

Do the studs on the sidewalls run vertical as they would in a house or are they horizonal? I can see that there are vertical studs around the doors, but what about in between?

I replaced the rotted rim joists under the wall and need to replace the first 16"wide bay of subfloor. The wall has dropped down by the thickness of the subfloor which was completely gone. I'm trying to see if I can attach something to the wall to lift it up 3/4" to get the new plywood back under the wall where it should be

 

[ROdell67]

Do the wall framing studs run vertical as in a house, or horizontal? I'm looking for points of attachment. I can see that there are aluminum studs around the door openings, a 3" wide horizontal stud which is secured to the floor rim joist, but not sure of what else.

I've replaced the wood rim joists on the kitchen wall which rotted due to an undetected leak from the fridge (no defrost drain hose). I also cut it the first 16" wide bay of subfloor and would like to lift the wall up 3/4" to get the subfloor back under where it belongs.

I removed all heavy items from the wall such as fridge, microwave cabinet doors ECT and built a temporary wall inside to gently jack up to take the weight of the trusses off the wall and also need to simultaneously jack the wall up.

Does anyone have a wall framing diagram from a Sundance ? Or any good ideas?

 

[cookie]

On a dewy morning you should be able to see where the wall studs are located by looking at the outside wall.
Did you state in another post that you have a 2008 fifth wheel? I'm not sure but I think your walls may be laminated to alluminum wall studs.

Peace
Dave

 

[ROdell67]

I live in Florida and have never noticed a stud pattern on the exterior. I also contacted Heartland and they said that they didn't have any info on the structure or framing, which was hard to believe. But my fifth wheel is an older model (2008) and they only have 2010 and up in their system. I inquired about getting the drawings for the 2010 model but they said they didn't have anything like that.

Do they generally run horizontal between the door openings? There must be something to attach the upper and lower cabinets to. There doesn't appear to be studs coming down onto the bottom wall plate near the floor inside the kitchen cabinet. So far, I'm only seeing foam board on top of the bottom wall plate.

It seems like a long span for the top plate to carry the roof load between the entrance door and the service door to the furnace and fridge where there are vertical studs. It's probably a 9' span.

Thanks for the reply, though. Yes, I have a 2008 Sundance 3300BH fifth wheel.

 

[Bogie]

It would be helpful to know what model Sundance you have. Travel trailer? 5th Wheel? Someone with that model may be able to help.

Framing diagrams may be hard to come by. You could try to contact Heartland customer service. Have your VIN number ready.

In the past, I was able to get a base frame diagram from Heartland for my 5th wheel.

 

[ROdell67]

I have a 2008 Sundance 3300BH fifth wheel. I'll try calling them again. I've called on two separate occasions and was told that they don't have info on models prior to 2010 when they switched to digital and that they don't have any sort of diagrams or info available concerning framing.

Thanks for the reply though. I'll try calling again. Maybe I'll get a different person.

 

[david-steph2018]

Do the wall framing studs run vertical as in a house, or horizontal? I'm looking for points of attachment. I can see that there are aluminum studs around the door openings, a 3" wide horizontal stud which is secured to the floor rim joist, but not sure of what else.

I've replaced the wood rim joists on the kitchen wall which rotted due to an undetected leak from the fridge (no defrost drain hose). I also cut it the first 16" wide bay of subfloor and would like to lift the wall up 3/4" to get the subfloor back under where it belongs.

I removed all heavy items from the wall such as fridge, microwave cabinet doors ECT and built a temporary wall inside to gently jack up to take the weight of the trusses off the wall and also need to simultaneously jack the wall up.

Does anyone have a wall framing diagram from a Sundance ? Or any good ideas?

To find the frames, one method is to go outside in the morning when there is a dew on the side of the rig. The framing will show.
The framing runs both vertical and horizontal in the walls. Horizontal around doors and windows.

 

[jerryjay11]

I don't have a Sundance, but on our Pioneer, I just used my hand to press against the interior wall panels and because they are thin, I was able to find the wall studs to mount two TV's.

 

[taskswap]

Depending on how your model actually got framed, there may not be as many studs there as you think (for things like cabinets). I'm not saying there aren't ANY, but the Azdel and similar panels (fiberglass or aluminum) a lot of RVs are made with today are semi-structural. They're a sandwich of (usually) fiberglass and foam panels and they have enough screw-holding power that things like cabinets may not require a stud backing, and they're definitely not placed like they would be in a house (at 16" OC for example).

I have a thermal camera and tried to take a picture of mine for you but had trouble getting the app to sync, sorry. But I only have 5 "studs" (they're really 1" square tubing) in my entire outer wall, 2 of which are around the door frame and the others seem to be where interior walls intersect the exterior, plus one long horizontal member. If I can get my thermal camera working tomorrow I'll post a pic of this, but it's snowing right now so I'm not going out there for a bit

 

[ROdell67]

I'm really interested in the results of your thermal imaging. I never thought about it's potential use in remodeling but that's a genius idea.

I'm also going to go out early and look for the few pattern on the camper. I'm parked under a large tree and the wall faces ready and gets them first thinks in the morning so maybe that's why I haven't noticed it before.

 

[sengli]

Just google rv wall frames, you will see several examples of them, without the wall panels. Like taskswap, says in most cases there not a lot of them.