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Invizatu
05-10-2012, 05:13 PM
I'm ready to pull the trigger and buy a Tailgater and 211k receiver. Suggestions on where to buy for best price and service?

Thanks... Bret

TravelTiger
05-10-2012, 05:44 PM
Maybe there will be a deal at Gillette?? Jim B, any word on the vendor list or rally deals? :angel:

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jmgratz
05-10-2012, 07:23 PM
I'm ready to pull the trigger and buy a Tailgater and 211k receiver. Suggestions on where to buy for best price and service?

Thanks... Bret

Check with www.Tweetys.com I got one there the other day for $588 for the Tailgater.

kakampers
05-10-2012, 07:32 PM
There may be a satellite supplier at the rally...not sure if they confirmed yet...

NWTFHunter
05-10-2012, 08:07 PM
I bought my Tailgater from local Dish satellite store last fall for $350. Already had the 211 receiver to use. Mine has worked fine and we are very pleased with it.

MTPockets
05-10-2012, 09:14 PM
Got our Tailgater and receiver from Tweetys in February. We've used most every day and Works great.

jmgratz
05-10-2012, 09:20 PM
Guess I mispoke in my eariler post. I was talking about the Wineguard Carryout for $588 not the Dish tailgater. The Wineguard Carryout will work with either Direct TV or Dish. The Dish tailgater only works with Dish.

Hastey
05-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Check with www.Tweetys.com (http://www.Tweetys.com) I got one there the other day for $588 for the Tailgater.

I purchased ours from PPL (http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/tv-antennas/tailgater-satellite-dish.htm) for $349. But they were the best price I found.

GOTTOYS
05-10-2012, 10:48 PM
I bought mine from dishdepot.com They're based in Fla. I just looked at their website and the Tailgater and a 211K receiver are on special for $429.00 for both. I believe that includes shipping also. It took less than a week to get mine. I just love this thing...Don

Silverado23
05-11-2012, 10:05 AM
Try solid signal.
$499 +$10 shipping with receiver.
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=TAILGATER211K&d=Dish-Network-tailgater-Automatic-Portable-Satellite-Receiver-with-ViP-211k-HD-Receiver-(TAILGATER-ViP-211k)

$399. +$9 without receiver. requires a 211k receiver.

azone14
05-11-2012, 10:09 AM
I purchased a complete Tailgater system from Dish Depot in Florida. They have free shipping and were cheaper than anyone else I could find. I visited their store while wintering in Florida and they have just about anything you could ask for when it comes to Sat TV and RV'ing. Hope this helps. I love my Tailgater system. It works great. Make sure you tell them to update the 211 reciever before shipping. There is no charge for this service. I dealt with Mark
http://dishdepot.com/

jimtoo
05-11-2012, 01:43 PM
Hi azone14,

Welcome to the Heartland Owners Forum and hopefully to the family. We have a great bunch of people here with lots of information and all willing to share their knowledge if needed.

Enjoy the forum.

Jim M

Invizatu
05-15-2012, 03:45 PM
Thanks to all who responded. I ended up dealing with Mark at dishdepot.com in Florida and getting it (tailgater + 211k receiver + remote) delivered to the house for $422 (no shipping and no tax)!
Wife says WooHoo!

azone14
05-16-2012, 08:09 AM
Mark is a great guy. I met him while I wintered in Florida as well as placing several orders with him. I am sure you will be happy with Dish Depot and I am glad I could help.
Let us know how it goes.
One thing I have discovered is I can move my tailgater a few feet and get the third satellite that is hard to get. I am now using an application on my phone to view the satellites before setup. I have also placed the unit on top of my RV from time to time to get over tree's so keep that in mind when setting up. If you have a smartphone I strongly recommend the satellite finder application if you RV allot. The 3rd satellite is needed for Hi Def on some channels but you can get 110 and 199 and still get all the channels but some will not be in HD

pegmikef
05-19-2012, 01:51 PM
I keep learning more about my tailgater. I am finding that it will work well with a really narrow view of the southern sky. Initially, I always looked for wide open areas, but have found that if you can see south between two trees, it works. I have never had trouble getting all the satellites.

Rodbuster
05-20-2012, 06:18 AM
I have only used my Tailgater a few times and like it very much but my experience is just the opposite of the previoys post. I find that I need a large (really large) open area of sky to have mine work.
Does anybody know what the angle is that is needed to clear the tops of the trees....30 degrees, 45 degrees, 60 degrees, etc.???

Hastey
05-20-2012, 07:17 AM
I just make sure that the cube is level and it does the rest. The angle and azmuth depend on your location. If you have a smart phone there is a app called dish FOR RV that uses the camera and location service and GPS to show you where the sataltes are.

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Rodbuster
05-20-2012, 07:26 AM
Thank you Rex, but no, we don't have a "smart phone".
The last campsite that we were in was wide open. There were trees across the campsite road from us (about 120 feet from the Tailgater) but we kept getting "no signal". This is why I was looking for information on the "angle" or line of site that the Tailgater needed to operate properly.

Thank you for your reply
Dick

jmgratz
05-20-2012, 08:56 AM
Thank you Rex, but no, we don't have a "smart phone".
The last campsite that we were in was wide open. There were trees across the campsite road from us (about 120 feet from the Tailgater) but we kept getting "no signal". This is why I was looking for information on the "angle" or line of site that the Tailgater needed to operate properly.

Thank you for your reply
Dick

Guess you have a "dumb phone". :) Sorry I couldn't resist that. LOL

Gizzy
05-20-2012, 09:01 AM
We don't have a smart phone either. When in a tight area (trees, etc) I get the ZIP code for the location , go into the manual mode on the set up and put the ZIP in, that gives us the settings, then I will use the compass and try to locate a "hole" in the trees (just like with the old dish) then let the Tailgater do the rest. After all, it still has to be able to "see" those little metal things in the sky. Works for us "most" of the time, depending on our location.



Thank you Rex, but no, we don't have a "smart phone".
The last campsite that we were in was wide open. There were trees across the campsite road from us (about 120 feet from the Tailgater) but we kept getting "no signal". This is why I was looking for information on the "angle" or line of site that the Tailgater needed to operate properly.

Thank you for your reply
Dick

pegmikef
05-20-2012, 01:17 PM
I have only used my Tailgater a few times and like it very much but my experience is just the opposite of the previoys post. I find that I need a large (really large) open area of sky to have mine work. al
Does anybody know what the angle is that is needed to clear the tops of the trees....30 degrees, 45 degrees, 60 degrees, etc.???

I don't know the angle, but it appears to be almost straight up. I just put my compass on it and make sure it has a clear shot in a southernly direction. Initially, I thought it needed to see the horizon, but I have since found it works with a narrow opening to the sky. I just spent a few days at Ft Tuthill in Flagstaff, AZ, a heavily treed area and it worked fine. Another camper was surprised that mine was working . . . he went back and tried his and it worked fine.

Rodbuster
05-20-2012, 04:55 PM
Thank you Gizzy and pegmikef.
I guess it's all part of the learning process. This campsite that I was telling you about had trees all around us but we were in an opening at least 200 feet in diameter. We had plenty of open sky over the truck, the picnic table, the RV and certainly over the tailgater. I relocated the tailgater a few times but still could not receive a signal. At the Pine Mountain, Georgia rally there were hardly any trees at all.... the tailgater worked fine. I hope it's just something that I'm doing wrong and that I find the answer but as far as right now, I'm disappointed with the product in that it seems to need "so much" open sky to find a signal.

Haven't given up, I'll keep trying.
Dick

pegmikef
05-20-2012, 06:07 PM
One other thing Rodbuster. For awhile I had trouble off an on in acquiring the satellites. One time it would work perfectly, then another time it would say complete signal loss, check your connections, etc. and still other times it would give me a message that it could not find one or more satellites. This happened in a park where I had used it before and it worked fine. I was in the same campsite at Brushy Creek COE park in Texas. I spent the day checking all the connectors and I ended up finding two that were a little loose . . . apparently loose enough to move and lose partial or complete connectivety. I tightened them all up and it has worked perfectly ever since.

ncc1701e
07-04-2012, 04:19 PM
I wanted a way to put the dish above the ladder when parked. Without a question, if I figured my time I could have bought the ladder mount from Camping World @$250.00 cheaper, but this was more fun to figure out. The real goal was to see if I could figure out a way to be able to put the dish up without climbing a ladder. Success looks like this: 20170

cookie
07-05-2012, 08:59 AM
That's a great idea, and it looks good.
How heavy is that thing when lifting up into place?
Oh, sorry, I had to delete your other post in a different forum about this great idea, as it was a duplicate.

Peace
Dave

pegmikef
07-05-2012, 09:15 AM
Mine is less than ten pounds I would guess, but I was wondering how you orient it since the tailgater always has to be pointed to the southern sky. With mine, I just put my compass on the top of the tailgater and align to the south . . . but of course, mine is on the ground.

Hastey
07-05-2012, 09:19 AM
Sweet idea, I may have to buy another Flag Pole Buddy.

Can you but on a pic of the top of the mast how you attached it?

ncc1701e
07-05-2012, 10:55 PM
Sweet idea, I may have to buy another Flag Pole Buddy.

Can you but on a pic of the top of the mast how you attached it?

The top is made using two 14"d plates of aluminum clad trailer skirting, a 3" water drain, 3" to 1-1/2" drain reducer, all sitting on a piece of 1-1/2" of electrical pvc gray conduit cut to length.

20190 20191 20192 20193 20194 20195 20196 20197

I painted the with pvc gray, but you really don't have to do that if you don't mind some of it white and some gray (the support leg). Of course, if you use 1-1/2" white pvc you won't have to paint. However, there is a neat little trick about using the section of electrical gray pvc. One end is already set up as a coupling and a little sanding gives a real nice tight fit in the 2.0 Flag Pole Buddy mount where the 1-1/2" white pvc is loose. The spacer between the two plates is 3/4" square aluminum tubing.

The whole thing weighs about 5lbs without the dish. Takes just a little practice without the dish on top to get the hang of leaning against the edge of the trailer and then into the top of the flag pole buddy. We always carry a small two step fold away so the wife can reach the top shelfs in the trailer. I have to admit that it is a little more comfortable standing on that step when putting up the dish. To get the hole patterns I used the base plate for the tripod mount for the dish. Someone asked about always facing south. This model is the auto model that rotates and finds the satelites.

Tom

Hastey
07-06-2012, 08:11 AM
Tom, my hat's off to you. That's one heck of a piece of Southern Engineering! Necessity is truly the father of invention. I will definatly be copying you design.

pegmikef
07-06-2012, 09:17 AM
That is really slick Tom. A very nice installation and design. I thought it was the Winegard carryout antenna that was fully automatic. I have to orient my Tailgater to the south and as far as I know there is not a newer model. Mine is automatic, but still has to be oriented towards the southern sky.

Hastey
07-06-2012, 11:35 AM
That is really slick Tom. A very nice installation and design. I thought it was the Winegard carryout antenna that was fully automatic. I have to orient my Tailgater to the south and as far as I know there is not a newer model. Mine is automatic, but still has to be oriented towards the southern sky.

Mine is the same as yours, I think I can just rotate the pole.

pegmikef
07-06-2012, 11:54 AM
Mine is the same as yours, I think I can just rotate the pole.


Hehehe, yeah my thought too, but . . . so I just went out and set mine up on my hardstand and ran it up with it "facing" 0, 90, 180, and 270 degrees respectively with 0 degrees being compass south. It worked just fine in each position. For some reason, like many others apparently, I interpreted "view of the southern sky" to mean it somehow had to be pointed in that direction. I even remember some discussion in other threads about what the front was and we all decided that it was the narrow side directly opposite the cable hookup connector and handle.

As it turns out, what it really meant is that the antenna itself has to have a clear view of the southern sky, but the directiviety of the sides is of no consequence.

So Rex, your orientation problem is solved and my setup is a couple of minutes faster if I can figure out whether or not it will have access to the southern sky.

ncc1701e
07-06-2012, 05:32 PM
Tom, my hat's off to you. That's one heck of a piece of Southern Engineering! Necessity is truly the father of invention. I will definatly be copying you design.

Rex.
There are a couple little things to keep in mind. When you sand the one end to fit in the Flag Pole Buddy holder, you have to use a piece of the cut-off end to sleeve the inside. You will understand when you see how much material you take off. Also, I thought the top was fitting too loose in the bracket so I used a thin mouse pad and some water proof glue to make some adjustments. I did clamp the top and bottom plates together when drilling and cutting out all those wierd holes. Other than that have fun, what you see in the pics is pretty much all it takes.

Hastey
07-07-2012, 08:57 AM
Tom, thanks again. I'm running out of time before we hit the road Thursday for the summer. This is gonna be one of my winter projects. I have the carry-out tripod but need to keep it in case we get to an area where I have to maneuver around trees. I am gonna trace it and get it digitized. I have a friend that owns a metal fab shop in Muskogee and he's got one of them high speed computerized plasma torches. I have a plasma torch myself but its hand held and I'm not steady enough to cut the odd shaped holes and make them look good.

ncc1701e
07-07-2012, 01:57 PM
Tom, thanks again. I'm running out of time before we hit the road Thursday for the summer. This is gonna be one of my winter projects. I have the carry-out tripod but need to keep it in case we get to an area where I have to maneuver around trees. I am gonna trace it and get it digitized. I have a friend that owns a metal fab shop in Muskogee and he's got one of them high speed computerized plasma torches. I have a plasma torch myself but its hand held and I'm not steady enough to cut the odd shaped holes and make them look good.


Sounds like you're well ahead of my skill saw and hand working everything. Have a great trip this summer, you headed any place in paticular? Never know who you might run across. LOL

Tom

Hastey
07-07-2012, 03:56 PM
Sounds like you're well ahead of my skill saw and hand working everything. Have a great trip this summer, you headed any place in paticular? Never know who you might run across. LOL

Tom

Columbus, wife has a consultation at Ohio State, then to Elkhart for some warranty work on the new BH, then to Michigan to the in-laws to stay. We will stay there until the Michigan Rally, go to it and then start rambling our way home I think we may be coming toward Kentucky.

ncc1701e
07-07-2012, 09:54 PM
Columbus, wife has a consultation at Ohio State, then to Elkhart for some warranty work on the new BH, then to Michigan to the in-laws to stay. We will stay there until the Michigan Rally, go to it and then start rambling our way home I think we may be coming toward Kentucky.

We've had to change our plans to head west with all the wildfires. I'm waiting to see what the wife's brother (lives in ND) wants to do now. But, I'm leaning towards making the Wisconsin Ralley and then heading over to the Michigan Rally. After that I'm not sure. Who knows, you may get a chance to look at the mount up close and personal. LOL...

Tom

Gizzy
08-23-2012, 05:25 PM
Tom,
Sure like this set up. I plan to use your info to make one myself. My only question is how is the Tailgater actually attached to the round platform with the holes in it. Does it just sit in the holes or is it secure in some manner? I assume it is secured someway. Any advice on a template for the holes since I do not have any tripod set up to use?

Thanx,

Gizzy



The top is made using two 14"d plates of aluminum clad trailer skirting, a 3" water drain, 3" to 1-1/2" drain reducer, all sitting on a piece of 1-1/2" of electrical pvc gray conduit cut to length.

20190 20191 20192 20193 20194 20195 20196 20197

I painted the with pvc gray, but you really don't have to do that if you don't mind some of it white and some gray (the support leg). Of course, if you use 1-1/2" white pvc you won't have to paint. However, there is a neat little trick about using the section of electrical gray pvc. One end is already set up as a coupling and a little sanding gives a real nice tight fit in the 2.0 Flag Pole Buddy mount where the 1-1/2" white pvc is loose. The spacer between the two plates is 3/4" square aluminum tubing.

The whole thing weighs about 5lbs without the dish. Takes just a little practice without the dish on top to get the hang of leaning against the edge of the trailer and then into the top of the flag pole buddy. We always carry a small two step fold away so the wife can reach the top shelfs in the trailer. I have to admit that it is a little more comfortable standing on that step when putting up the dish. To get the hole patterns I used the base plate for the tripod mount for the dish. Someone asked about always facing south. This model is the auto model that rotates and finds the satelites.

Tom

ncc1701e
08-24-2012, 07:31 AM
Tom,
Sure like this set up. I plan to use your info to make one myself. My only question is how is the Tailgater actually attached to the round platform with the holes in it. Does it just sit in the holes or is it secure in some manner? I assume it is secured someway. Any advice on a template for the holes since I do not have any tripod set up to use?

Thanx,


Gizzy

The feet for the unit drop into the odd shaped holes and turns maybe 5deg t lock in place. In the picture, one of the other multiple sets of holes aligns with a 1/4-20 mounting hole in the bottom of the dish. If you were using the tripod this is exactly the way you would mount on the tripod, drop in holes, twist, put in small bolt to lock.

Now, I had a tripod to make the base from. From your post, I see you don't have a base plate to trace. A couple possible options I think. There is a bunch of holes to get in the right place, maybe I can make a sketch that had enough demensions someone could repeat it or if you want to send me a mailing address I make a cardboard cut-out using the plate from from tripod and send it to you.

Tom

Hastey
10-24-2012, 08:22 PM
Hey guys and gals. Just to let you know my tailgater stopped working. I called DISH and in turn they got me over to King Controls. Me and the King Control guy worked it over, he even had me take it apart while I was on the phone with him. The thing quit moving inside, one of the motors went out or something like a board burnt up. They sent me a prepaid FEDEX label and as soon as the tracking number went active they put the new one in route to me. I'm having it sent to my parents house in North Louisiana and we will catch up to it there. Bottom line is that it broke and they fixed it and it only cost me $3.00 to buy the shipping box big enough for it.

Gizzy
10-25-2012, 08:04 AM
Have to agree with you on the service from King Controls. I had the EXACT same thing happen and they provided the EXACT same service. Great customer service!! I'm glad it was still under warranty. I would not hesitate to purchase something from them in the future.

Gizzy


Hey guys and gals. Just to let you know my tailgater stopped working. I called DISH and in turn they got me over to King Controls. Me and the King Control guy worked it over, he even had me take it apart while I was on the phone with him. The thing quit moving inside, one of the motors went out or something like a board burnt up. They sent me a prepaid FEDEX label and as soon as the tracking number went active they put the new one in route to me. I'm having it sent to my parents house in North Louisiana and we will catch up to it there. Bottom line is that it broke and they fixed it and it only cost me $3.00 to buy the shipping box big enough for it.

Hastey
10-25-2012, 08:06 AM
Good to hear that.


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lduguay
10-28-2012, 01:47 PM
We bought the Tailgater and 211 receiver October 2011. The system was awesome and to easy to use, once we got the receiver firmware updated with the help of DishNetwork. Our story changes when DirecTV made me an offer I couldn't refuse......saving us $50 per month for similar packages. Soooo, we switched to DirecTV. Unfortunately the Tailgater cannot be reprogrammed to DirecTV and I put the system "for sale" on the forum.....sold it to an HOC member (Dennis W) in Michigan in September......everyone was happy! UNTIL, Dennis tried the unit and it DIDN'T work!!! Dennis called King Controls, they instructed him to open the unit and they determined the motor had "burned out"! Unfortunately, since Dennis was not the original owner the unit was not under warranty and was charged $112 for repair which I reimbursed to Dennis.

Now, the point of this looooong story.....I fired an email to King Controls explaining the situation. If I had still "owned" the system, it would have been under warranty. Troy Johnson of King Controls responded and they are refunding the repair cost when they really didn't have to!!

THAT IS GREAT CUSTOMER SERVCE!! When I "graduate" back to an automated system, NO ONE but King Controls will get my business!

Thanks Troy and King Controls......you have a "Raving Fan"!!

Lance

Hastey
10-29-2012, 09:30 AM
We already have a replacement waiting on us at our next stop. King Controls r great folks to work with.

Hastey
11-02-2012, 08:37 PM
We left New Orleans yesterday and got to my parents house in Simsboro LA. The new tailgater was here waiting on us. I hooked it up this morning and it kicked of without a hitch. Everything is a back to normal.

Big thanks to King communications.

Rodbuster
11-03-2012, 05:06 AM
Would somebody have a contact number and address for King Communication?

Thank you
Dick

lduguay
11-03-2012, 07:44 PM
Hey Dick,

Here's their contact page link:

http://www.kingcontrols.com/contact.asp

Lance:cool:

Rodbuster
11-04-2012, 07:23 AM
Lance, Thank you very much

d_fergie
07-21-2013, 10:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEgfzMrEA-E

d_fergie
07-21-2013, 10:40 AM
The Above is video I took at CES of the model they had at the Dish booth with clear cover so you could see what it looks like, you can click on the youtube icon to switch to 2D, Mods if inappropriate please move or delete. :)

ICamel
08-17-2013, 12:06 AM
I bought our Tailgater directly from Dish. It arrived two business days after order placement. We use one of the ViP211k receivers from home so the total price was $350 delivered. I had already run the RG6 coax cable from outside to inside the Elkridge and hooked it up to the cable outlet which already had a "satellite" female receptacle but no cable running to it as purchased. We were able to acquire two satellites doing a test run where the 5r is parked at home. The maiden voyage was this past Sunday-Thursday at 6,415 feet elevation at a mountain lake here in Oregon. I hooked up the Tailgater and fired up my EU2000i generator and on first try it found all 3 satellites and I was watching HD television! Now don't think I spent all my time watching TV in this great outdoor location. I watched the last 5 minutes of an NFL game on Sunday evening, the noon and evening news on the next 3 days, and that was it. I am blown away by the technology! College football will be another story while camping/fishing in September, October, and November. No more planning my excursions around being able to watch my beloved Oregon Ducks.

For those that want to know what elevation degree the satellites are at go to http://www.mydish.com/support/manuals?WT.svl=gsearch_results and scroll down to the "Installation" section and click on the link to whichever system you have. Then just find the information for azimuth (AZ), elevation (EL), and skew (SK) angles in the same row as your ZIP code rangeunder the column for your dish system.