Shortly after we got out Elk Ridge, I'd have about 2 1/2 gal come out when I'd remove the cap to drain the tanks. After a few trips back to the dealer they finally got it fixed. Then 2 summers ago the black tank wouldn't drain. We were work camping at the time, & couldn't really tear into it. After trying a lot of different things, & finally got it draining. When we got home, I found out that when they cut the hole in the tank to install the drain, the plug from the hole that was left the in the tank was stuck in the valve, and wouldn't allow the valve to close 100%. Had to buy a new valve & cable as apparently they just don't sell the valve. Installed it & life was good...for a while. It started leaking at the valve, & it seemed like no matter what I did it would be good for a while but start leaking again. Finally figured out that when I would re-install the valve, due to not having much room there, etc. I was messing up the rubber seal. Finally, this last summer with some help from Kevin Wolbeck, got it fixed. Pretty simple fix, cut a short section out of the drain pipe, & put a thick rubber sleeve on the outside. This allowed me to get the valve installed without problems, then put the drain pipe in both ends of the sleeve. Haven't had a leak since.