ok , well I feel pretty stupid right now. I went out first thing today and was not going to give up till I found the problem. i was starting at the battery again 12v but that was all just 12v not a bit more .I thought it should read a little higher seeing how It was still hooked up to shore power and the converter should be charging the battery. so I went and got my battery charger and hooked It up, then unplugged the shore power, then looked inside the camper and everything was still running off of 12v ( with the 12v charger still hooked up). so I guess I just have a low or bad battery, I will let it charge all day while at work then check it tonight. I cant believe I didn't think about doing this first, old age can be really dumb sometimes . I guess because the slide out worked I just took for granted I had a good battery . but there still might be a problem, because the converter should have charged it over the last 4 days