Carlisle Radial Trail RH Tires

[avvidclif]

I had a set of the Radial Trail RH ST235/80R16 tires on my last trailer. In 10k miles and over 3 years I had zero problems. I am well aware of the problems with the older Carlisle trailer tires, it's well documented, but although the new RH series has been discussed on several groups no one has had any problems with them.

Has anyone on here had a problem with the Carlisle Radial Trail RH series tires, only them please? I am thinking of replacing the TowMax with them.

There is much discussion about speed ratings for ST tires so I asked Carlisle and here is the reply;

Mr. Holland,

In the past, most trailer tires were rated at 62 or 65 mph. Today, some of our tires are "rated" (speed symbols) at 87 mph (N), some at 75 mph (L), some at 65 mph (J: ST tires) and some at 62 mph (J: non-metric tires). Our Radial Trail RH tires have speed ratings of N (87 mph) and L (75 mph). See the table below.

Please remember that speed ratings are test speeds and not recommended driving speeds. The speed rating does not mean that the vehicle can be safely operated at the tire's rated speed. We suggest that you always drive at a safe speed and abide by the posted speed limit.

Carlisle # Type Size Load Range Speed Symbol
5151311 Radial Trail RH ST145/12 LRD N (87 mph)
5151321 Radial Trail RH ST145/12 LRE N (87 mph)
5151331 Radial Trail RH ST175/80R13 LRC N (87 mph)
5151341 Radial Trail RH ST185/80R13 LRC N (87 mph)
5151351 Radial Trail RH ST205/75R14 LRC N (87 mph)
5151361 Radial Trail RH ST215/75R14 LRC N (87 mph)
5151371 Radial Trail RH ST205/75R15 LRC N (87 mph)
5151381 Radial Trail RH ST205/75R15 LRD N (87 mph)
5151391 Radial Trail RH ST225/75R15 LRC N (87 mph)
5151401 Radial Trail RH ST225/75R15 LRD N (87 mph)
5151411 Radial Trail RH ST225/75R15 LRE N (87 mph)
5151431 Radial Trail RH ST235/85R16 LRE L (75 mph)
5151441 Radial Trail RH ST235/85R16 LRF L (75 mph)
5151501 Radial Trail RH ST235/80R16 LRE L (75 mph)
5991351 Radial Trail RH ST205/75R14 LRC N (87 mph)
6H01521 Radial Trail RH ST185/80R13 D N (87 mph)

Regards,

Tony Coffield

 

[Grey Ghost]

Had a set of Carlisle tires in the early 2000, but nothing since. I had lots of trouble with them then and just never tried them again. I've hence changed and started putting Michelin LT tires on my rigs. Now have a 5ver and just put new Michelin's on it about 1000 miles ago. Glad you are having good luck with your Carlisle tires, my friend just put a set on his rig. I also had some very experiences with Tow Max tires (better known as BlowMax) they were really bad and did a lot of damage to my rig. I think I will stick with the Michelins for now since I've had very good luck with them.

 

[MagnoliaTom]

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[Miltp920]

I put a set of Carlisle 12 ply tires Radial Trail RH on my 2014 Cyclone. They were half the price of the GY G614. I think getting into a tire better than 10 ply is the key to solving the tire problems on these heavier 5ers. I do not worry now like I did with the Towmax 10 plys.

 

[avvidclif]

I put a set of Carlisle 12 ply tires Radial Trail RH on my 2014 Cyclone. They were half the price of the GY G614. I think getting into a tire better than 10 ply is the key to solving the tire problems on these heavier 5ers. I do not worry now like I did with the Towmax 10 plys.

The 12 ply Load Range F is what I was thinking of going with, strangely enough they are cheaper than the 10 ply on some sites.

I don't have a problem with Michelin Tires, that's what is on my TV. But try and find a 3500+ lb rated tire in 16". That's what I need to match the 7k lb axles.

 

[Jim.Allison]

You don't need a 3540 + tire you need a LT that is rated for continuous duty. 15 to 20 percent of your load is on your pin. so 15500 X .85 = 3293 lbs per wheel considering all wheels evenly loaded. If 20% on pin would work out to 3100 per tire. LT tires are rated for continuous duty at the load on the sidewall.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=675R6THT&tab=Specs

The 12 ply Load Range F is what I was thinking of going with, strangely enough they are cheaper than the 10 ply on some sites.

I don't have a problem with Michelin Tires, that's what is on my TV. But try and find a 3500+ lb rated tire in 16". That's what I need to match the 7k lb axles.

 

[HornedToad]

I put a set of the new Carlisle 10 ply Radial Trail RH tires on a Torque TH w/ two 7k axles. Not by choice, but by the chance that I was near a Discount Tire store when my TowMax bulged and the Carlisle is what they had in stock. I ran those tires for six months and my neighbor at the storage yard has had the Torque now for the past year. With his RZR he runs fully loaded and hasn't had any problems with the Carlisle tires.

 

[avvidclif]

If DOT ever looks at you they look at the axle rating and the tire rating. If you have 7k axles you better have 7k worth of tires on that axle. Probably never happen but I'm not making the tire the weak link. The load range F are 3900+ tires which give even more margin.

I'll know more after I get it weighed. Hopefully I'll see a scale this weekend.

 

[Jim.Allison]

I think what you are referring to is that the tire must meet the axle load not the axle rating.

According to your analogy I could not run G114 tires on 10,000 tandem axle 5th wheel, in order to run those 4805 lb capacity tires, I would have to drop down to an 8000 lbs axle. Otherwise my G114 would be illegal on a 10,000 lb axle.

Additionally would the axle have to match tire capacity? Am I illegal now since I'm running 4805 on a 7000 lb axles?

If DOT ever looks at you they look at the axle rating and the tire rating. If you have 7k axles you better have 7k worth of tires on that axle. Probably never happen but I'm not making the tire the weak link. The load range F are 3900+ tires which give even more margin.

I'll know more after I get it weighed. Hopefully I'll see a scale this weekend.