Dually or SRW??

[Hockster]

I concur with everyone in the dually camp.
I've been through that "Been there done that" scenario.
Save yourself the time and aggravation by getting the dually now.
I guarantee you will be more relaxed, and enjoy towing your new 5ver more with a dually.
Huge difference in towing stability.
Learn from our experience, because most of us didn't want a dually either, and we learned the expensive way, the dually is the way to go on a big 5er.
Couple trips around the block and you will be used to driving the Big Truck.
Mine is my daily driver, even the wife drives it with no problems.

Hockster

 

[BigGuy82]

And maneuvering a GMC 3500HD crew cab, extended bed dually around is no big deal, especially if you've driven much bigger trucks (like a P-2 crash truck).

Except when putting the fiver into a tight back-in .... a shorter wheelbase would sure be nice. I live on a narrow street and parking this rig is a challenge. However, the convenience of no slider hitch and extra room in the bed is nice. Our 12 pound dog also loves the luxurious full back seat ...

 

[rocrider50]

Normally these responses would be true, except.... The 2017 Ford Superduty F350 Diesel greatly upgraded the base and 5th wheel towing capability. I bought a 2017 SRW for that reason. The F350 now has a 21,000 lb 5th wheel tow capability.

See this Superduty link. http://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du...13147&ef_id=VmbmFwAABPT83Rqi:20160907161925:s

The new F350 SRW has a huge rear axle that greatly upgraded the payload. I'm towing a Cyclone 3800 that has a 15,950 dry weight and a 20,000 max. I max it out and the SRW is stable in high winds (driving a few weeks ago in HW) and pulls no problem. Glad I didn't need a DRW and if I could find some of the older trucks DRW payload and towing specs I suspect the new truck exceeds them. Plus SAE has a new towing stability spec that new trucks need to meet, giving confidence that 21,000 is not a stretch. It's quiet too.

 

[JohnDar]

Except when putting the fiver into a tight back-in .... a shorter wheelbase would sure be nice. I live on a narrow street and parking this rig is a challenge. However, the convenience of no slider hitch and extra room in the bed is nice. Our 12 pound dog also loves the luxurious full back seat ...

Some complain about just driving the truck without the rig on. Our seasonal site is tight, but the CG owner guides everyone in. No problems.

 

[jleavitt11]

I could not agree more. I bought a SRW 2017 F350 about 3 months ago. I pull a Cyclone 4250 with a max weight of 20K and we max it. I have about 6000 miles on the trailer and it pulls like a dream. Wind, hills (and in Utah we have many) or sharp curves have not been a problem at all. I am soooo glad I can do it with out a DRW.

 

[szewczyk_john]

I just went through this a few months ago. I have no regrets about buying a dually. I use it as a daily driver and had concerns about the size and all that. I do not even notice it anymore and I could not be happier regardless if I am pulling the camper or just driving to the local bar for wings. Do not let the parking thing scare you off.

 

[rocrider50]

I could not agree more. I bought a SRW 2017 F350 about 3 months ago. I pull a Cyclone 4250 with a max weight of 20K and we max it. I have about 6000 miles on the trailer and it pulls like a dream. Wind, hills (and in Utah we have many) or sharp curves have not been a problem at all. I am soooo glad I can do it with out a DRW.

Mine to, love my SRW and glad to get rid of the DRW. Heading to your neck of the woods in four weeks (for 3 weeks camping in the mountains) and glad to hear that the 2017 F350 will be just fine. I actually won a drag race, loaded, with some idiot in a Malabu that was trying to cut me off. He couldn't believe I out ran him. I agree that you still need a sliding 5th wheel hitch though, that's another story for later.

 

[TravelTiger]

I could not agree more. I bought a SRW 2017 F350 about 3 months ago. I pull a Cyclone 4250 with a max weight of 20K and we max it. I have about 6000 miles on the trailer and it pulls like a dream. Wind, hills (and in Utah we have many) or sharp curves have not been a problem at all. I am soooo glad I can do it with out a DRW.

Hmmm, what exact model/spec do you have? I can't find a SRW with a tow rating over 18k, payload of 3500 or less.

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[fastcarsspeed]

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/17RV&TT_Ford_SuperDtyPU_Sep9.pdf

Hope this helps.

 

[TravelTiger]

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/17RV&TT_Ford_SuperDtyPU_Sep9.pdf

Hope this helps.

Yes, it says from Ford, limited to 18k for 5th wheel hitch.



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[LBR]

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/17RV&TT_Ford_SuperDtyPU_Sep9.pdf

Hope this helps.

That does help....have you inquired with Ford what their footnote #2 is....listed for all the specifics of the extra capacity towing?

 

[justafordguy]

The 18k 5th wheel limit is the limit of Fords factory hitch. You would need a larger capacity aftermarket hitch to tow a higher weight.

 

[Dawnnira]

Welcome to the best owners club! Go big or go home, why put it off...buy the DRW first then go shopping. It's all about safety, confidence and doing it right. You will never regret the 8 bed, crew cab DRW diesel for peace of mind - our family and loved ones are monument. Ford, Chevy or Dodge- of course you need to be hooking up to a Heartland

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[rocrider50]

Hmmm, what exact model/spec do you have? I can't find a SRW with a tow rating over 18k, payload of 3500 or less.

Don't know where you are looking, I would go right to the Ford website. 21,000 SRW all day long on that site.

[h=3]5th Wheel Gooseneck Towing - Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight Ratings (lbs.)*[/h]

				Regular Cab	Super Cab	Crew Cab
Engine with Automatic Transmission	Rear Axle	Axle Ratio	MAX GCWR (lbs.)	F-250 4x2	F-250 4x4	F-350 4x2	F-350 4x4	F-250 4x2	F-250 4x4	F-350 4x2	F-350 4x4	F-250 4x2	F-250 4x4	F-350 4x2	F-350 4x4	F-450 4x4
6.2 L Gas V8	SRW	3.73	19,500	13,200	12,800	13,000	12,600	13,000	12,600	12,800	12,400	12,900	12,500	12,700	12,200	-
	SRW	4.30	28,700	15,700	15,300	16,500	16,100	15,500	15,100	16,300	15,900	15,400	15,000	16,200	15,700	-
	DRW	3.73	20,000	-	-	13,100	12,700	-	-	12,700	12,300	-	-	12,500	12,100	-
	DRW	4.30	23,500	-	-	16,700	16,200	-	-	16,200	15,800	-	-	16,000	15,600	-
6.7L Power Stroke Turbo Diesel V8	SRW	3.31	28,700	18,600	16,500	21,500	21,100	17,400	15,400	21,300	20,900	16,800	14,700	21,000	20,600	-
	SRW	3.55	28,700	18,600	16,500	21,500	21,100	17,400	15,400	21,300	20,900	16,800	14,700	21,000	20,600	-
	DRW	3.55	36,000	-	-	28,400	27,900	-	-	28,000	27,600	-	-	27,700	27,300	-
	DRW	4.10	40,000	-	-	32,000	31,900	-	-	32,000	31,600

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I would suggest going to the Ford site

 

[Dawnnira]

DRW...say it with us

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[TravelTiger]

The only way you have that towing capacity is the very end of the chart I copied from the Ford site. If you have a GCWR on your truck of 28,700, then yes you can tow 20,000 + depending on cab and box style -- with a proper hitch. Otherwise Ford lists " - " or a much smaller number. Check your GCWR.


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[crors7]

I towed our 17k toy hauler with a 16' F250 4x4 ccsb 6.7 , pulled great, stopped great, but was over weight, so I got a 17' F350 drw 4x4 6.7. Is it more stable? In high winds yes. Does it go up grades better? A little but only because it has 4.10 gears instead of 3.55 gears. Does it go down grades better? No, with the engine brake they both maintain the speed you want without ever touching the brakes. Does it make me feel more" manly" driving a dually? Absolutely. Either one will get the job done with minimal effort and in total comfort.

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[jleavitt11]

Hmmm, what exact model/spec do you have? I can't find a SRW with a tow rating over 18k, payload of 3500 or less.

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Here is the chart from Ford's site. I would agree that DRW is the BEST option but certainly not the only option. There are many factors to consider including what the truck is used for outside of towing. You can tow a big 5'er with a SRW. As I said in my original post I have been doing it safely for 6000 miles with the new RV and it pulls like a dream.

 

[Dawnnira]

Why risk going that far to the limit? Spend the extra money for a DRW and piece of mind

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[EWG]

You have the information. I too am not a DRW fan. But the numbers don't lie. I too am a future Big Horn Owner. The trick is to get the real numbers. Go to the Ford Dealer and get the numbers for a Truck the way you want it equipped. You will find that a SRW will not be able to put in the bed as a DRW. Just a fact. Get the numbers from the yellow sticker in the door. At 20% of gross (18,000 lb) for a 5th wheel pin hitch is 3600 lbs. Try that in a SRW. You can get away with 15% (2700 lbs) but that will not give you much to put in the truck except for a bottle of water.