Jim Gratz, do ya know what ya did today dude ? Ya just showed everyone how rude you can be for no reason. Now go eat a little humble pie and go back and read the first post by Zephyr on this thread. All this stuff is new to Zephyr, he even is a new forum member. He very humbly stated he is new, never pulled a fifth wheel and he asked for help. He also stated he will listen to others with more experience. He asked for your help Jim... and ya lambasted him for it. That's not a nice thing to do is it ? Don't be cute by putting IMHO because it wasn't a humble opinion it was a knee jerk reaction without all the facts. The guy with the trailer being pulled by the 1500 you saw today, did you make any attempt to share your knowledge with him ? Why not ? Did you call the HWP ? Why not, what if he killed his family doing this unsafe pull. Isn't a ticket worth a childs life ? Not everyone who buys a trailer is informed as you Jim, but they learn by asking questions and by listening. Zephyr was told by a dealer who wants to sell a trailer that his truck will pull it, Zephyr never did it before - what's that sound like to you ? Guess what, a dealer tried that BS with me too. The dealer was right, my truck pulled the unit fine. But, by asking questions, reading, learning and picking the brains of more experienced RV folks like yourself I came to the conclusion "I should get a bigger truck". Now I'm legal and most of all you and I are safer when I'm towing. When you jump on someone for asking a question, they refrian from asking another question. The next question may be even more important for our and their safety. So be the good man we all know you can be and be nicer. MTTDO (My thru the door opinion)