Power for second ac unit

Shoe1963

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I am seeking advice on how to run power for a second ac unit on a 2023 Heartland Trail Runner 27RKS. The trailer has 50amp hookup, it doesn't seem to have been pre wired for another ac. I also do not know what the labeling means in the breaker panel. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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If you have 50 Amp service then there is a good chance that you are wired for a second AC. Your breaker panel appears to have a breaker for a second AC.
If you have a 14x14 vent in the ceiling of the bedroom you will need to remove the inside shroud and look for a piece of romex cable, probably terminated in a plastic box.
If you find that you should be good to go on installing a forward AC.

Peace
Dave
 

hoefler

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AC-2 is for a second A/C. Pull down the trim ring for the bedroom ceiling vent, you will find a supply wire for it.
By the way, turn that breaker off, it is a open hot wire in your attic!
 

wdk450

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I noted that the breaker labelled "AC1" is a 20 amp breaker, where the breaker labelled "AC2" is a 15 amp breaker. Both AC units are usually identical, so would need the same size breakers. Also, air conditioning breakers are a special HACR type, with a longer delay before tripping.

HACR (Heating/Air Conditioning/Refrigeration) rating — It can handle a brief surge in amperage that's required for a compressor or other devices to start.

Both air conditioners should NOT be both connected to the same feed phase to balance the electrical loading. On my breaker box, the 2 phases feed every other breaker. That is, looking at the breakers left to right you have phase A, B, A, B, A, B and so forth .
 

Shoe1963

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Yes, that is why I was confused, and the breaker that turns off the current ac is one that is not even labeled.
 

jerryjay11

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I noted that the breaker labelled "AC1" is a 20 amp breaker, where the breaker labelled "AC2" is a 15 amp breaker. Both AC units are usually identical, so would need the same size breakers. Also, air conditioning breakers are a special HACR type, with a longer delay before tripping.

HACR (Heating/Air Conditioning/Refrigeration) rating — It can handle a brief surge in amperage that's required for a compressor or other devices to start.

Both air conditioners should NOT be both connected to the same feed phase to balance the electrical loading. On my breaker box, the 2 phases feed every other breaker. That is, looking at the breakers left to right you have phase A, B, A, B, A, B and so forth .
If so, then the 20-amp breaker appears to have the microwave on it. Got the feeling that at least the first 4 breakers are mislabeled. And aren't RV AC units typically 115 volts? I do realize some may be 240 volts, but most are 115V from my experience.
 

Shoe1963

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The breaker box is definitely labeled wrong, but thanks to the help here I found the wiring for the bedroom ac. Thanks everyone.
 
Good info here. I am also planning to add a second AC unit, to my garage. I haven't pulled the vent fan yet to verify the power wire is there, but like the OP showed, I have a 50 amp setup, and a "2nd AC" breaker, so I expect it is there.

Question is, when adding the 2nd unit, what is typically done for a thermostat for on/off and temp setting? Could control it on the unit itself, but since the ceiling is pretty high, a wall mount would be better. I can, of course, run a wire, just wondering if that pre-wire that as well.

The main unit in the living area has one of those Dometic t-stats that I'm not in love with. Tried to replace it with a Honeywell, but it appears they designed it so you're stuck with theirs.
 

jerryjay11

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What makes you stuck with the Dometic?
If not mistaken, a T-Stat is a T-Stat. As long as you replace with a same number wire T-Stat and follow the instructions to install it. Just count the number of wires, noting the color codes for wiring the new one.
 

Dennyha

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If you have a Dometic AC, you’ll want either a Dometic T-stat or the appropriate Micro-Air T stat. Other T-stats will not work correctly. The T-stat has to “talk” to the control box in the AC.
 

jerryjay11

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If you have a Dometic AC, you’ll want either a Dometic T-stat or the appropriate Micro-Air T stat. Other T-stats will not work correctly. The T-stat has to “talk” to the control box in the AC.
I was under the impression t-stat had to be 12-volt DC or battery powered. That's according to an article I read. I'll have to dig deeper. Never had to replace one so I may need some studying just in case.
 
If you have a Dometic AC, you’ll want either a Dometic T-stat or the appropriate Micro-Air T stat. Other T-stats will not work correctly. The T-stat has to “talk” to the control box in the AC.

Correct, this is the issue. These apparently have some form of communication to the unit. Not the simple switching of a call for AC or heat like the typical t-stat. My issue with the Dometic is that it allows too much temperature swing. I have resolved this on other RV's by swapping to a Honeywell digital t-stat that keeps the deadband tighter. Could not find any info in the manual or online about settings for this on the Dometic.

Anyone have thoughts on my original question?
 
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