Water weeping from hot water tank pressure valve.

CoveredWagon

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I have done the open slam shut thing on the T P valve air a bunch of times. Still weeping. Where in the system does the expansion/accumulator tank go? And does it only work when using the water pump? All my issues are while using city water.
Thanks everyone you your advice!
It could be as simple as a bad/corroded to valve. It happens. I change that first.
But that just me.
 

Bob.jr

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Is your water pressure regulator adjustable, or a fixed setting?
I still suspect the regulator.

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Sudsman

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It could be as simple as a bad/corroded to valve. It happens. I change that first.
But that just me.
That’s the frustrating part, I did the the bleed out air thing, it weeped, I chGed the T / P valve with a new one, it weeped, i used only electrical for heating, it weeped, I used only gas to heat, it weeped. think I may remove the pressure regulator from the system and try that.
 

Sudsman

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Is your water pressure regulator adjustable, or a fixed setting?
I still suspect the regulator.

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It is adjustable, yesterday I dropped the incoming pressure to 10 PSI, then ran it up to 60 PSI. Ran water then lowered it to the normal 50 PSI. Still weeps. Grrrrrrrrrrr!
 

Dahillbilly

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looking like a defective valve seat in the T/P. Take it back & get a new one. At 10 psi the should never weep

It is adjustable, yesterday I dropped the incoming pressure to 10 PSI, then ran it up to 60 PSI. Ran water then lowered it to the normal 50 PSI. Still weeps. Grrrrrrrrrrr!

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jerryjay11

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I have done the open slam shut thing on the T P valve air a bunch of times. Still weeping. Where in the system does the expansion/accumulator tank go? And does it only work when using the water pump? All my issues are while using city water.
Thanks everyone you your advice!
You can google directions, but they are normally installed on the cold-water supply and works for the whole water system, water pump or city supply.
 

SLO

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With everything you’ve done so far it seems clear thermal expansion is your problem. As the water heats it expands in the water heater tank. Normally water heaters are designed to expand into the incoming cold water line. Our RVs are a closed water system. The check valve in the incoming city water connection is what makes it a closed system. Since the expanding hot water cannot expand past the incoming check valve, the pressure builds up in the water heater. Once it gets to 150 psi your T & P valve leaks. Perhaps the water heater thermostat runs a little longer than it should causing pressure to build. jerryjay11 and Thystra gave you the correct answer, an expansion tank. Sometimes looking at a posters profile will give you some insight into to their answers. jerryjay11 has HVAC an appliance experiance, giving more weight to his answer. One other thing. The air chamber at the top of the water heater tank, recommended by Suburban, only works until you turn on a hot water faucet. As soon as the hot water is used the air is forced out of the tank. You’d have to create the air chamber again every time you use hot water. Not very practical.


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jerryjay11

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With everything you’ve done so far it seems clear thermal expansion is your problem. As the water heats it expands in the water heater tank. Normally water heaters are designed to expand into the incoming cold water line. Our RVs are a closed water system. The check valve in the incoming city water connection is what makes it a closed system. Since the expanding hot water cannot expand past the incoming check valve, the pressure builds up in the water heater. Once it gets to 150 psi your T & P valve leaks. Perhaps the water heater thermostat runs a little longer than it should causing pressure to build. jerryjay11 and Thystra gave you the correct answer, an expansion tank. Sometimes looking at a posters profile will give you some insight into to their answers. jerryjay11 has HVAC an appliance experiance, giving more weight to his answer. One other thing. The air chamber at the top of the water heater tank, recommended by Suburban, only works until you turn on a hot water faucet. As soon as the hot water is used the air is forced out of the tank. You’d have to create the air chamber again every time you use hot water. Not very practical.


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Correctly stated. "One other thing. The air chamber at the top of the water heater tank, recommended by Suburban, only works until you turn on a hot water faucet. As soon as the hot water is used the air is forced out of the tank. You’d have to create the air chamber again every time you use hot water. Not very practical."

A note about residential homes... Most homes today have Backflow preventers to keep home water system from pushing the water back to the supply source.
 

Thystra

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I installed mine next to the DC water pump, after the pump, on the RV side of the piping.

Tank feed -> Pump -> Expansion Tank > Rest of RV piping.
 

Sudsman

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I installed mine next to the DC water pump, after the pump, on the RV side of the piping.

Tank feed -> Pump -> Expansion Tank > Rest of RV piping.
So does it work only during water pump usage? Currently my issue is when using city water, not water pump.
 

jerryjay11

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Sudsman

Yes, it works there. Once you hook up to city water all your water lines are at city pressure. A check valve is built into the pump to prevent backflow to the freshwater tank. So, everything after the pump is affected by city pressure. You can place the expansion tank just after the pump discharge line if accessible or anywhere in the system that is easy to get to. Typically, I would install anywhere in the cold-water supply. Only because I don't want the hot water to deform the bladder of the expansion tank.
 

SLO

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Since there’s a check valve after pump and one at the city water connection, you could have weeping on either. Expansion tank needs to go on cold line.


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Thystra

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So does it work only during water pump usage? Currently my issue is when using city water, not water pump.
It works there - it just has to be inside any and all check valves. The pump is a cold water line and, at least on my unit, near the water heater. Allows any pressure build up to be easily absorbed by the expansion tank.
 
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