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MasterCade
02-26-2013, 08:19 AM
I am very close to buying a cyclone 4000. I currently own a 1999 Ford F350 and am wondering if I should be concerned. It's a good truck. I have maintained it well but it has high miles. Will this truck do the job or will I need to buy something newer?

jnbhobe
02-26-2013, 08:45 AM
Is it a Dooley ? The transmission is probably the weakest point.

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codycarver
02-26-2013, 09:21 AM
This (http://fifthwheelst.com/) link may help you to determine if your current vehicle is adequate for what your trying to do. The tow ratings go back to 2003 but the information on 5th wheel st (http://fifthwheelst.com/) combined with the ratings on your door jam should help you. Good luck.

TXBobcat
02-26-2013, 09:51 AM
Is it a gasser or Diesel. Might be a strain for a gasser depending on what you're carrying in the Cyclone..

BC

TandT
02-26-2013, 10:06 AM
Here is a link to tow ratings for your vehicle. http://www.trailerlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Trailer-Life-Towing-Guide-1999.pdf

Scroll down until you find the appropriate information for your specific vehicle. Trace

porthole
02-26-2013, 10:52 AM
I am very close to buying a cyclone 4000. I currently own a 1999 Ford F350 and am wondering if I should be concerned. It's a good truck. I have maintained it well but it has high miles. Will this truck do the job or will I need to buy something newer?


18.000+ pounds for the trailer ...............

MCTalley
02-26-2013, 09:15 PM
If you properly prepped your truck to pull it. You're talking possibly 17-18K of trailer behind 7-8K of truck, for a total of 24-26K weight. GCWR for the 7.3's in an F350 was 20K. That figure is based mostly on the braking power of the truck, but also partly on the transmission.

Our rig weighs 23K fully loaded down the road. I've put better brakes, custom tuning, and a high-end rebuild on my tranny to accomodate the overage. Still, I wouldn't try a fully loaded 4000 behind mine.

dave10a
02-26-2013, 10:21 PM
My truck handles the Landmark very well and dually is not needed. The Cyclone may be a higher GVW and would require a dually. However, if I was going the dually route I would consider the F450. As far as a 1999 F350 goes check the sticker in the door post for GVW specs. I suspect the newer Ford have a higher GVW capability.

DW_Gray
02-26-2013, 11:45 PM
Here is a link to tow ratings for your vehicle. http://www.trailerlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Trailer-Life-Towing-Guide-1999.pdf

Trailer Life only provides the maximum towing capacity. It's also important to ensure the rear axle will not be overloaded. No towing guide that I know of provides the rear axle information. The best and only resource of it's kind is the Before You Buy RV (http://bybrv.com) app.

BTW: I just did a quick check on the best 2005 model F350 and that won't work for the Cyclone 4000. I'm pretty sure the older model won't have the capacity to tow this model.

porthole
02-27-2013, 09:21 AM
My truck handles the Landmark very well and dually is not needed. The Cyclone may be a higher GVW and would require a dually. However, if I was going the dually route I would consider the F450. As far as a 1999 F350 goes check the sticker in the door post for GVW specs. I suspect the newer Ford have a higher GVW capability.

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dave10a
02-27-2013, 09:45 AM
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marvmarcy
02-27-2013, 10:39 AM
I'm reluctant to make recommendations, but here is what happened to me. I had a 2002 F550 dually w/7.3 PSD & 4R100 tranny pulling 20,000#. The truck weighed 10,000#. The GCWR was 30,000#. In 18 months I spent $9,000 fixing the truck (mostly transmission related) and was towed three times. The truck pulled the trailer fine, but stopping and quick maneuvering could be exciting.

Bob&Patty
02-27-2013, 11:13 AM
Just my 5cts ( inflation). IMHO, you need a 2011 or newer any brand. They all have a higher GVWR, bigger brakes, engine brake and so on. With a HEAVY Cyclone you should get a DRW. Still JMHO.

MasterCade
02-27-2013, 09:26 PM
Well my salesman said we would have no problem! So we bought it and pick it up Saturday. Ha Ha. I didn't get a chance to read all of your reply's. Sounds like I need to buy a new truck now?

MasterCade
02-27-2013, 09:29 PM
Diesel. I have a hyper max chip in it and upgraded turbo and exhaust.

TravelTiger
02-27-2013, 09:44 PM
So sorry your salesperson told you whatever it took to get you to buy a trailer. Looks like you will absolutely be overloaded, based on the tow guide posted earlier.

Get you a new truck asap, so you can really enjoy that new Toyhauler!


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ceharris21
02-27-2013, 11:43 PM
MC: I have a 2000 f-350 drw 7.3l with exhaust break and break controller heavy duty springs in the rear and upgraded heavy duty aftermarket tranny and pull my fully loaded road warrior like a boss. But i am cautious when towing and usually dont exceed 60mph while towing. I wouldn't worry if the truck has been well maintained... maybe consider an upgrade down the road. With all that said everyone has a diff of opinion when it comes to this stuff.

MasterCade
02-28-2013, 01:08 AM
Thanks CE! That's what I needed to hear. I just wanted to make sure my truck wasn't going to crack under the pressure.

DW_Gray
02-28-2013, 01:50 AM
With all that said everyone has a diff of opinion when it comes to this stuff.

There no question that MasterCade's truck won't tow the Cyclone. Heck, my former 2008 Ram 2500 as shown on my website towed my trailer just fine. Even the Toyota Tundra towed the Space Shuttle in L.A. Towing is not whole the issue.

The real issue is not exceeding the load ratings. Ratings are facts and are not up for opinion. Ratings are based on a lot of things, like axles, springs, transmission, gear ratio, brakes and etc. All these things can be upgraded with after market products but that does not change the certification ratings.

Note to MasterCade: Please PM me with the name of the dealer, phone number and the mailing and website address. I'd like to send them a little care package.

Bob&Patty
02-28-2013, 03:52 PM
Dave, it won't do anygood. All dealer are told to quote/lie the empty weigh to a customer. The other opinion/problem is with being over the rated GVWR on any truck/ trailer combo. If you have an accident............you are screwed. Probably no insurance coverage and lots of other bad things. Its not worth it for a few buck to get a "legal" truck and be safe. Does not have to be a NEW truck. JMHO

DW_Gray
02-28-2013, 05:36 PM
Dave, it won't do anygood. All dealer are told to quote/lie the empty weigh to a customer. The other opinion/problem is with being over the rated GVWR on any truck/ trailer combo. If you have an accident............you are screwed. Probably no insurance coverage and lots of other bad things. Its not worth it for a few buck to get a "legal" truck and be safe. Does not have to be a NEW truck. JMHO

Bob,
You're probably right about wasting time with the dealers. But that doesn't stop me from trying. I've already found mostly negative reviews about MasterCade's dealer. These past 4 years have been a real education for me, not to mention what I've learned since the start of FWS. What I don't understand is after all these years, why RVers don't take a stand against these sleazebag dealers. But what do I know, I'm still a newbie, relatively speaking.

MasterCade doesn't necessarily need to buy a brand new truck; just a good truck that meets or exceeds the towing requirements. Personally, my next truck will probably be a used one.

MasterCade
03-01-2013, 12:13 AM
Thanks guys. I appreciate the info.

Bob&Patty
03-01-2013, 11:58 AM
Dave your right....but it will never change. If Mastercade would get any of the 2011 or newer of the big 3's 350/3500 DRW trucks, he would be to go. He could probably get a fairly nice one for about $40K with nice equipment. No matter what he adds/does to his 1999 truck. It still wont be legal for that much weight.

Sorry to say but...it's buyer beware. People need to do their homework on weights on TV's verses trailer weight combo's. In the 5 years I have on this forum I have learned alot and I try to pass on truthful information to newbies. This way they do not get the "green weenie" when looking to buy. All we as a group can do is tell it like it is and hope people will read/listen. I dont want anyone to have a bad thing happen to them or their family by being lied to by a dealer.