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stew0720
02-04-2016, 11:41 AM
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Big Country 4010RD. It's GW is 16,000 lbs. Of course the sales guy says that a 2016 F250 6.7l diesel will tow it fine, but the listed tow weight for that is 15,100 lbs. I was planning on putting Firestone bags on back to help level it out.

What say you guys?

cookie
02-04-2016, 12:21 PM
Never listen to the sales guy. He most likely never towed or owned an RV. The sale is his priority.
Okay, got that out of the way.
You need to know your trucks 5th wheel tow capacity. You didn't say what model or year your F-250 is. That will make a difference.

Peace
Dave

Sniper
02-04-2016, 12:25 PM
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Big Country 4010RD. It's GW is 16,000 lbs. Of course the sales guy says that a 2016 F250 6.7l diesel will tow it fine, but the listed tow weight for that is 15,100 lbs. I was planning on putting Firestone bags on back to help level it out.

What say you guys?
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/16rv&tt_ford_superdtypu_r1_nov12.pdf

stew0720
02-04-2016, 12:27 PM
I haven't bought the tow vehicle yet, i was looking at a 2016 F250 6.7L Diesel, 4x4 crew cab. The listed fifth wheel limit is 15100, per this link:

http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

I thinking i'm reading that right...

cookie
02-04-2016, 12:35 PM
You could gain 600 pounds of tow capacity if you went to an F-350, 15,700.

Peace
Dave

Sniper
02-04-2016, 12:42 PM
I haven't bought the tow vehicle yet, i was looking at a 2016 F250 6.7L Diesel, 4x4 crew cab. The listed fifth wheel limit is 15100, per this link:

http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

I thinking i'm reading that right...
You are indeed reading it correctly.

Bohemian
02-04-2016, 01:00 PM
https://heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/51254-Manufacturers-Towing-Specifications

avvidclif
02-04-2016, 01:02 PM
You probably don't want to hear it but 16k is 1T dually territory. It's not what it can tow it's the pin weight that is a bigger factor.

MTPockets
02-04-2016, 01:26 PM
It's too common hearing people purchase the truck they 'want' instead of the one they 'need'. You are for sure in DRW territory to have proper payload capacity.

GOTTOYS
02-04-2016, 02:11 PM
Even if it could tow it the difference between a 2500 and a 3500 DRW is night and day. I don't "need" a DRW 3500 to tow my trailer but I have one. After towing it with a slightly overloaded 2500 I would never go back...Don

justafordguy
02-04-2016, 04:00 PM
The new 250/350 SRW truck will pull that trailer fine but if you haven't purchased the truck yet, get the 350 DRW. You will be much happier with how it pulls and you will have extra capacity if you decide to buy a larger trailer next time.

avvidclif
02-04-2016, 04:53 PM
The new 250/350 SRW truck will pull that trailer fine but if you haven't purchased the truck yet, get the 350 DRW. You will be much happier with how it pulls and you will have extra capacity if you decide to buy a larger trailer next time.


Not according to the Ford spec posted here.

JanAndBill
02-04-2016, 05:24 PM
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Big Country 4010RD. It's GW is 16,000 lbs. Of course the sales guy says that a 2016 F250 6.7l diesel will tow it fine, but the listed tow weight for that is 15,100 lbs. I was planning on putting Firestone bags on back to help level it out.

What say you guys?

As I just this week ordered a new F350, I'm newly versed in weights, as i also looked at the F250. Based on the limited information you gave the only truck that matches the 15,100 lbs, is the 250 4x4 Crew Cab. The maximum CGVWR for the F250 is 23,500 lbs. subtracting the base weight of 7668 lbs (long bed) gives you 15,832 lbs, for trailer, cargo, fuel, people, etc. so - 1. You already know you're overweight on the towing capacity of the model, 2. you'll be over on the maximum CGVWR on the truck and 3. you'll most likely be over on the cargo capacity (bear in mind you have to include in addition to the pin weight, people, luggage, hitch, fuel, dogs, etc., etc.), you then get into the possibility of exceeding the maximum limit on the rear axle. While you might add air bags to assist with leveling out the truck, adding air bags does nothing to increase any of the above mentioned manufacturer's limits. Will it do it??? Probably????? Will it do it safely at all times, and comfortably????? NO!!

Birchwood
02-04-2016, 05:33 PM
Its simple ................look at the GVWR on the door sill of your truck and do the calculations.Everyone on the forum will defend there choice of to vehicles.

BouseBill
02-04-2016, 05:58 PM
Excellent information from JanAndBill, order more truck than you will need, your new 5th wheel is going to be under-trucked and I guarantee you will not be a happy camper driving a rig that is marginal at best.

TravelTiger
02-04-2016, 08:35 PM
We just purchased a BC4010RD. The sticker on the door, which is the weight out of the factory with no stuff in it, was 13,056. My guess is you'll be closer to the 16k than you think.

We have a 2013 GMC 3500. It loads it pretty well (tows level). Haven't weighed it yet, but you can definitely tell that big rig is back there.


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jmgratz
02-05-2016, 09:40 AM
Look at the price on the F250 versus the F350. In most cases the F350 can be had for the same or less money than the F250. The size of the two are basicly the same. So why not get the F350. You will be much happier with it. I recommend the dually although the SRW will do the job. I have had both and the difference in stability is amazing. DRW is what I would recommend. MHO

MTPockets
02-05-2016, 10:43 AM
Look at the price on the F250 versus the F350. In most cases the F350 can be had for the same or less money than the F250. The size of the two are basicly the same. So why not get the F350. You will be much happier with it. I recommend the dually although the SRW will do the job. I have had both and the difference in stability is amazing. DRW is what I would recommend. MHO
Good advice but you can't say for sure the SRW will have the payload capacity. If it does, it will be very close.

jmgratz
02-05-2016, 01:42 PM
Good advice but you can't say for sure the SRW will have the payload capacity. If it does, it will be very close.


Every time I have checked the tow rating the DRW was LOWER than the SRW because of the extra weight of the DRW rear Axles. So to me the stability issue was more important.

JanAndBill
02-05-2016, 03:48 PM
Every time I have checked the tow rating the DRW was LOWER than the SRW because of the extra weight of the DRW rear Axles. So to me the stability issue was more important.

Think you may be looking at the wrong lines. I just ordered a 2016 F350, diesel, Super Cab 4x4 long bed, DRW. Per the 2016 Ford book. Maximum conventional trailer towing on the F250 is 14,000# vs 19,000# on the F350. Maximum 5th wheel towing on the F250 is 15,900# vs 23800# on F350. Maximum payload capacity on the F250 is 3200# vs 6,680# on the F350.

jdamude
02-05-2016, 03:49 PM
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Big Country 4010RD. It's GW is 16,000 lbs. Of course the sales guy says that a 2016 F250 6.7l diesel will tow it fine, but the listed tow weight for that is 15,100 lbs. I was planning on putting Firestone bags on back to help level it out.

What say you guys?

We purchased the identical unit you are looking at. We tow ours with a F450, works great, stops great. This is a little too much trailer for a single rear wheel pick up of any make.

Crumgater
02-05-2016, 04:20 PM
I think payload capacity will be the main factor.

That... and at some time you're going to want to STOP the RV...

We found our 1995 F250 pulled our Elkridge just fine - and was WELL within ratings for both towing and payload... it just had a really HARD time stopping the thing on wet pavement. After running a few red lights in the rain, we traded up to a 2008 F350 (SRW)... it is SO much nicer... less stress when driving, and we love the "new" bells & whistles, too (backup camera, built in trailer brake, etc.). :)

MTPockets
02-05-2016, 04:59 PM
Every time I have checked the tow rating the DRW was LOWER than the SRW because of the extra weight of the DRW rear Axles. So to me the stability issue was more important.
I mentioned payload capacity... You could be correct on tow capacity of same axle ratio, but payload capacity is the first thing to look at.

JanAndBill
02-05-2016, 06:18 PM
I mentioned payload capacity... You could be correct on tow capacity of same axle ratio, but payload capacity is the first thing to look at.

Sorry but you are still incorrect. The F350 dual rear wheels carries over twice the "payload" of a F250. Now if you're talking about the F350 Single Rear Wheel they are much closer in capacity, but the F350 is still rated higher. The link below will take you to the payload page of Ford.

http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/payload/ (http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/payload/)

avvidclif
02-05-2016, 07:11 PM
You two are arguing on the same side of the fence. ReRead your posts.

DW_Gray
02-06-2016, 04:23 PM
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Big Country 4010RD. It's GW is 16,000 lbs. Of course the sales guy says that a 2016 F250 6.7l diesel will tow it fine, but the listed tow weight for that is 15,100 lbs. I was planning on putting Firestone bags on back to help level it out.

What say you guys?

Sure, it will tow it. But the real question that must be answered is "Will you be able to tow it without exceeding your truck's weight safety ratings?"

You can answer that question by knowing your truck's realistic vehicle towing capacity by using the RV Tow Check App (http://rvtowcheck.com).

Additionally, here a couple of pages to read:

My Truck Pulls It Just Fine! (http://fifthwheelst.com/truck_pulls_it_fine.html)

The Basics: What do I Need to Tow it? (http://fifthwheelst.com/what-do-i-need-to-tow-it.html)


Late add: Oh, and one other thing about air bags:
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IronJ
02-09-2016, 12:05 AM
Well I have both. ..a 250srw (with the 350 axle/springs/air bags. .)....as well as a 350dwr tow boss...bags as well

Now my trailer is a rw 420 toy hauler (aka HEAVY)..

HONESTLY I've towed on the 250/350 hybrid many times on short local trips...stability never an issue...it does NOT stop near as well as the 350drw. ..and the 3.55 axle does make the engine scream on long steep Hills. ....

I could tow with it all day and feel "ok"...but that's just me...

Now the 350 is a diff beast. ..she is huge and soaks up bumps better, holds more fuel, is more stable, and stops better ......

My trailer is usually 17,600 lbs loaded light with nothing in garage...the King pin is WAY over the payload of the poor f250 door sticker. ..2150lbs

The 350 has a payload of 5750....

So heck yeah it will pull it...but it's nowhere near as safe (legal) or fun as with a 350drw tow boss!

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