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Nbomar
07-14-2016, 12:01 PM
Yep you read that right... no clue what possessed this guy to attempt this. It ended badly. Toyota Tundra on I35 by Pauls Valley OK on Tuesday when it was really windy. Flipped the truck and the camper.

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JohnD
07-14-2016, 12:07 PM
My dealership told my that my truck was MORE than enuf!

Bones
07-14-2016, 12:28 PM
I have been seeing a lot of tundras pulling campers recently. Is it me or is this a new thing?

JohnD
07-14-2016, 12:42 PM
I have been seeing a lot of tundras pulling campers recently. Is it me or is this a new thing?

I've been seeing it, too!

However, most of the Tundra's I've been seeing are waiting on the shoulders for a tow truck to come and pull them to the campground!

I don't care if they pulled the Space Shuttle at -1 mph . . . while they may be capable of hauling most bumper-pull trailers, there is not ONE 5th-wheel trailer that they can pull legally.

If you have a Toyota Tundra . . . choose carefully for the trailer you can pull with your truck.

There are very few that are legal!

Toy1Ton
07-14-2016, 12:46 PM
Salesman said he could pull it

Bob&Patty
07-14-2016, 12:52 PM
You can't fix stupid. You can't believe what I see in this CG pulling big 5ers. A tiny, and I mean tiny, Nissan SUV pulling an Airstream TT.....really??

Jim.Allison
07-14-2016, 06:05 PM
I see that Nissan is getting into the business and is offering built in gooseneck and fifth wheel hardware.

IronJ
07-14-2016, 06:58 PM
Geeze...you know he ain't a member here....after the slack I get for pulling wirh my srw 8000lb diesel, I can only imagine!! Haha...but it's only a lowly ford...them yotas pull space shuttles and carry 18wheeler loads of gravel...

Plus I'm sure it will buff out...😉

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mlpeloquin
07-14-2016, 07:18 PM
Bob is correct you cannot fix stupid. When the wind blows the speed should slow, and that is with the proper tow vehicle! Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump 1994.

crors7
07-14-2016, 08:23 PM
Geeze...you know he ain't a member here....after the slack I get for pulling wirh my srw 8000lb diesel, I can only imagine!! Haha...but it's only a lowly ford...them yotas pull space shuttles and carry 18wheeler loads of gravel...

Plus I'm sure it will buff out...��

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You hit the nail on the head! I've all but stopped posting on here, I don't know if it's jealously or just a bunch of grumpy ***** with nothing better to do than bash people. I tow a 40' TH with a F250, both brand new, I'm under all my weights and tows great, but apparently I'm going to die and kill everyone around me!

IronJ
07-14-2016, 08:30 PM
Even with my srw 350 I'm way over the lawyer numbers...I also have a "proper" and more than well equipped dually...so I shrug it off...I've pulled with both...the dually is better but I have no reservations tossing it on the back of the srw...I don't think it's either jealousy or grumps...just people with their own opinions of what THEY would feel safe with...that's what makes this a good forum...you really gotta brush stuff off and accept the opinons....we are all in it for the enjoyment anyway....hate me if you want...I dunno why anyone would...I have plenty of experience with both trucks and thousands of miles towing the rw with both...that's where my opinion comes from...take em as you choose...no one else cares what I think anyway...lol

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Jim.Allison
07-14-2016, 08:30 PM
You hit the nail on the head! I've all but stopped posting on here, I don't know if it's jealously or just a bunch of grumpy ***** with nothing better to do than bash people. I tow a 40' TH with a F250, both brand new, I'm under all my weights and tows great, but apparently I'm going to die and kill everyone around me!

There are many tribes on this site. LOL.

crors7
07-14-2016, 08:35 PM
Even with my srw 350 I'm way over the lawyer numbers...I also have a "proper" and more than well equipped dually...so I shrug it off...I've pulled with both...the dually is better but I have no reservations tossing it on the back of the srw...I don't think it's either jealousy or grumps...just people with their own opinions of what THEY would feel safe with...that's what makes this a good forum...you really gotta brush stuff off and accept the opinons....we are all in it for the enjoyment anyway....hate me if you want...I dunno why???

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No hate at all, sure a dually would be better, but we pull with my wife's daily driver, and I have 2 hd 2500, 1 6.0, 1 8.1, both capable but not near as nice as the super duty. There is way to much bashing on here, a place to ask, learn ,teach, not preach.

Westwind
07-14-2016, 08:39 PM
If your going to tow, you should know! that's my saying. There is no reason for anyone to tow a trailer that wags a truck. Saying the salesmen is a sorry is a poor excuse - I did 5 years of research and learning before I bought my first trailer because I knew I didn't know and didn't trust someone to tell me. Especially a salesman, people hear what they want to hear.
Travel down I-95 to Florida and you see some sights, many 1/2 ton trucks towing some questionable 5th wheels, lots with Quebec license plates. Some with the nose pointing down or up because the truck is jacked (US Plates -southern states).

IronJ
07-14-2016, 08:43 PM
No hate at all, sure a dually would be better, but we pull with my wife's daily driver, and I have 2 hd 2500, 1 6.0, 1 8.1, both capable but not near as nice as the super duty. There is way to much bashing on here, a place to ask, learn ,teach, not preach.
Wasn't implying you were hating...just saying I know the rules...I know the numbers...and sometimes I tow with the srw and have ABSOLUTELY no reserve doing so...I could care less what anyone thinks...heck I got bashed for lifting/modifying my dang dually too!!..lol...still love this forum and the grumps and haters alike!!...they all have something we can learn from!

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crors7
07-14-2016, 08:44 PM
I totally agree, we searched for ever for a TH that was well within our weights, well not the most expensive or fanciest unit, we are happy with what we bought, sure in a few years we will buy a dually or toter and a monster 3 axle TH.

Jim.Allison
07-14-2016, 08:50 PM
One thing for sure, most people on this site are aware of their pin loads and GCVWR. Some are marginal, but they are aware, and aware is good.

IronJ
07-14-2016, 09:03 PM
I'd rather drive with someone who is aware of their load and capabilities ( over or not) than the yahoo in the tundra with a triple axle th doing 70mph in a 50mph cross wind because hey..."dealer said so and I seent it pull the dang ol space shuttle"...yee haa!!

My wife picked the trailer and I subsequently went "crap...I need a new truck "...lol....and I don't regret any of it...I LOVE my trailer and truck alike!!

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crors7
07-14-2016, 09:14 PM
When we were looking, we had a guy, the owner of the dealership, tell us that exact thing, " I tow a 5er with my Tundra", I rolled my eye's and went elsewhere!

IronJ
07-14-2016, 09:30 PM
Maybe he had one of those new fangled mercury super lites...4000 some odd lb 5ers...lol...

I carry that much in my garage and fuel/water tanks I think...😐

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Bones
07-15-2016, 05:28 AM
When I discuss I speak from my own experience. I like numbers because they usually don't lie.

avvidclif
07-15-2016, 07:41 AM
You hit the nail on the head! I've all but stopped posting on here, I don't know if it's jealously or just a bunch of grumpy ***** with nothing better to do than bash people. I tow a 40' TH with a F250, both brand new, I'm under all my weights and tows great, but apparently I'm going to die and kill everyone around me!


Not bashing you but I would love to see the actual weights and how it worked out. My 1T SRW is over on a couple with a 38'. I stayed with a 2 axle just to avoid weight issues and still have some. No problems with towing or anything else it's just me. I like to be under the numbers for the wear and tear factor.

crors7
07-15-2016, 08:04 AM
Not bashing you but I would love to see the actual weights and how it worked out. My 1T SRW is over on a couple with a 38'. I stayed with a 2 axle just to avoid weight issues and still have some. No problems with towing or anything else it's just me. I like to be under the numbers for the wear and tear factor.
I'm at 22,700# combined, fully loaded, I don't have "toy's " which would put me over. I'm close on rear axle @ 5980#, front is good . Trailer loaded is 14,200 give or take a beer or 2, gross on trailer is 16,250 (2017 Torque 325), 11,950# on trailer axles, puts me around 2300# pin.
TV is 2016 f250 ccsb 4x4 6.7, Airlift bags , onboard compresser, demco autoslide 18k. I'm close, no doubt, and when we decide we need toy's, we will upgrade.

avvidclif
07-15-2016, 08:29 AM
Ok, looks good. I have almost 3200 on the pin. I wonder what the difference is? The trailer loaded is 15,100 with 11,900 on the axles (2 in my case). It did have my Harley in the back @ ~750 lbs.

crors7
07-15-2016, 09:17 AM
Ok, looks good. I have almost 3200 on the pin. I wonder what the difference is? The trailer loaded is 15,100 with 11,900 on the axles (2 in my case). It did have my Harley in the back @ ~750 lbs.
We bought that one because it had a low pin weight, and I pack all our stuff in the garage .

Shortest Straw
07-15-2016, 10:41 AM
After 12 years in EMS I could post pictures like this all day. It is amazing what folks will do to just get by. I have seen crashes due to axles breaking, wheels breaking off, swerving to avoid an obstacle with a lifted pick up, getting blown over, etc. IMO if you value your family, give one iota of a hoot about the folks driving around you, you do not push the limits when it comes to towing. On the flip side there are those folks who are just lucky...

Carleen
07-15-2016, 10:54 AM
Wouldn't you just stop and ask yourself why you don't see any other yotas pulling triple-axle trailers? I figure it's a good idea to look around you every once in a while to get an idea if you're doing it right. Serious! And... don't ever take the salesman's opinion of tow capacities literally! It's fools like that who put their entire family at risk because he "thought" it would be okay rather than doing the research. I can't say I haven't made mistakes recently and in the past, but I know better than that.

IronJ
07-15-2016, 11:36 AM
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Hey round here trailers explode all the time...good ol West Texas wind came in last night and tossed this one over fence onto truck...

Probably woulda taken a yota with it too...!! Lol

Was a nice cyclone too...[emoji26]

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avvidclif
07-15-2016, 11:39 AM
We bought that one because it had a low pin weight, and I pack all our stuff in the garage .


Does it have a generator?

justafordguy
07-15-2016, 11:53 AM
heck I got bashed for lifting/modifying my dang dually too!!..lol..

Not by me, I think your Dually looks awesome. I can't wait to do the same to mine. :cool:

Bones
07-15-2016, 12:01 PM
I just saw this from a person on FB.
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crors7
07-15-2016, 12:01 PM
Does it have a generator?
No, we didn't get one to keep pin weight down, plus I don't boondock, and I have 2 Honda 3000 if i needed them .

avvidclif
07-15-2016, 02:40 PM
No, we didn't get one to keep pin weight down, plus I don't boondock, and I have 2 Honda 3000 if i needed them .


There's part of the difference plus we have the hydraulic level-up (sometimes) system

IronJ
07-15-2016, 10:25 PM
Not by me, I think your Dually looks awesome. I can't wait to do the same to mine. :cool:

THANKS!! I love that thing too!! I'm wating on fusion to finish my new front bumper so I can get it paint matched and installed soon....I pulled it out of the shop today so my detail guy could shine it up nice...went right back in tho as we have more dang storms coming...I like looking at it tho...LOL

JohnD
07-15-2016, 10:31 PM
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IronJ
07-15-2016, 11:30 PM
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I've seen the closeup of that hitch contraption somewhere...it's crazy..it goes through the tailgate and attaches to the reciever on the frame with a wood block or something.....[emoji15]

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Bones
07-16-2016, 06:52 AM
THANKS!! I love that thing too!! I'm wating on fusion to finish my new front bumper so I can get it paint matched and installed soon....I pulled it out of the shop today so my detail guy could shine it up nice...went right back in tho as we have more dang storms coming...I like looking at it tho...LOL
What kind of bumper? You can add me to the list of thinking your truck is awesome.

IronJ
07-16-2016, 08:43 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160716/34dd8bb46a70c8207afb900768467878.jpg

It's similar to this (mine is not going to have the winch or center light bar and my flood light pods are diff).

They are made by Fusion here In the USA and then my shop will take the raw bumper and clean it and color match the paint to the truck.

I really debated on not putting anythjng as I like the factory look...BUT I've hit too many animals while traveling and I'd rather be the safe one...

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lakebuster
07-16-2016, 09:25 AM
When we pulled our 43' triple axle toy hauler. The dealer told us our ram 2500 would pull it. I did a test and cribbed up and lowered TH onto cribbing. Two problems arose truck squatted terrible and toy hauler was nose high with no cheap fix. So I traded in my 2005 Ram 2500 for a 2013 F-350 with prep pkg. even with the F-350, I had to add air bags due to squatting, but I could cruise comfortably at 68mph.


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justafordguy
07-16-2016, 09:53 AM
THANKS!! I love that thing too!! I'm wating on fusion to finish my new front bumper so I can get it paint matched and installed soon....I pulled it out of the shop today so my detail guy could shine it up nice...went right back in tho as we have more dang storms coming...I like looking at it tho...LOL

Don't forget to post some pictures when you get the bumper finished.

What tires/wheels did you end up with? Trying to decide what to get for mine but the choices of taller 17" tires are limited. I also want an AT instead of a highway tire so that limits it even more. I love the Nitto tires on my F250 but they don't have anything tall enough but narrow enough for my factory rear wheels.

Bones
07-16-2016, 10:13 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160716/34dd8bb46a70c8207afb900768467878.jpg

It's similar to this (mine is not going to have the winch or center light bar and my flood light pods are diff).

They are made by Fusion here In the USA and then my shop will take the raw bumper and clean it and color match the paint to the truck.

I really debated on not putting anythjng as I like the factory look...BUT I've hit too many animals while traveling and I'd rather be the safe one...

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The looks nice. I was looking at the iron cross bumpers but I was worried about all that extra weight

IronJ
07-16-2016, 11:13 AM
I considerd and Iron cross, road armor, fusion, and btm (which I have on my other truck)....my main thing was I wanted something that had good lines and didn't stick out 12" from the front of truck (like a Ranch hand)....as for weight, yes it's heavy...and on a stock 2wd front suspension I could see an issue ..also, there is a loss of economy when compared to an absolute STOCK truck...(it's not only heavy, you lose the air dam).

Since fusion are made to order, you have a LOT of options on lights,winch, air vents, or Even custom logo or whatever...

Finally fusions are hand made here in the good ol usa....I like that (my btm on the other rig was as well).

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Bones
07-16-2016, 12:05 PM
I think they have made it to the top of my list now. Thanks. But my suspension up front is stock.

IronJ
07-16-2016, 01:12 PM
I think they have made it to the top of my list now. Thanks. But my suspension up front is stock.
I don't think it will matter much on a 1 ton....the diesel trucks get super heavy duty front Springs anyway...when I lifted mine the stock Springs were swapped for a 4 link setup and bds springs....but I don't know if they were stiffer or not...rides nice to me (more so than you would expect for a lifted , 22" wheel , 8k + lb, tank with nearly 50" of tires on the pavement in the rear)[emoji15]

I can only see MAYBE an issue with a 3/4 ton 2wd gas truck ....

I had a Ranch hand and then a BTM on my srw...both heavy but neither made a diff in ride height...

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