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    ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw?

    On our 2015 Prowler P292, the entrance door has a gas strut to hold the door open.

    However, this is NOT a good feature as every single time the wind blows . . . it not only rips the screws out of the side wall of the trailer . . . but the door itself!

    It has already caused us to have one of the awning arms replaced under warranty at it got bent when the awning came down on top of the entrance door!

    When a mobile tech was working on our Prowler, he told us that the awning could have been moved a couple of inches to avoid not only having to use the gas strut, but also to keep the door opened all the way without having it rest on the awning arm.

    What do you think of his suggestion?
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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw!

    I don't know John....with the window there maybe there's something in the framing in that area that prevented them from moving the strut in that direction...I'm playing the Devil's Advocate

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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw!

    The tech did mention that . . .

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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw!

    I think there is a simple less expensive fix to your issue. The brackets being used are not big enough to do the job they need to do. The material they are screwed into is not sturdy enough to do what it needs to do. If you were closer I would fabricate the brackets for you. Take those brackets off and find a metal shop that can make new ones for you. Make sure that they build them with a larger foot print where they attach, meaning that instead of two or three screws 4 to six. For the bracket that is attached to the wall of the coach I would make a matching plate for the inside and run some screws/bolts all the way through. I would get some flat headed screws so that they would not bulge the inside paneling out when installed. I would also run some screws all the way through the door bracket as well. You will need to take the door completely off to be able to get the mounting plate on the inside installed and still keep the inside paneling intact.



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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw!

    I did fix the bracket on the door by drilling all the way through the door and using bolts with lock nuts instead of wood screws.

    That part is holding really well.

    However, the issue really isn't the bracket, but the fact that the door can't be opened all the way, and when the strut is removed, the door swings all the way open, but the awning arm is in the way (only by about 1 1/2 inches).

    If that door is anywhere near the awning arm if the awning is moved . . . it catches the door.

    Thus the bent awning arm (in our case it filled with water and that arm dropped down on top of the door).

    What I would like to know is of the whole awning can be moved forward about 2 1/2 inches . . . allowing the door to open all the way!

    I'm sure that many current and future owners of not only the 292 series, but any other RV out there that is designed this way, would like to have this not be an issue.
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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw?

    John,

    i'm sure you'll get opinions from other owners, but I don't think I've ever seen the factory engage on the forum regarding post-manufacturing changes such as you're suggesting.


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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw?

    Quote Originally Posted by danemayer View Post
    John,

    i'm sure you'll get opinions from other owners, but I don't think I've ever seen the factory engage on the forum regarding post-manufacturing changes such as you're suggesting.
    I thought this was the "Ask The Factory" forum.
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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    I thought this was the "Ask The Factory" forum.
    John,

    If you were asking them to investigate changing the design on a future trailer, they might respond that your input is being passed along to engineering for consideration. But your question reads more like you want advice on modifying your trailer. Never seen that happen.


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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw?

    That is exactly what I am trying to do . . .

    1) Let Heartland know that these struts do not hold (I know I am not the only one frustrated by this), and they (door struts) are not just on Prowlers.

    2) I would like to know if it is possible to actually move the whole awning forward about 2-inches as there physically is enough room (see 3rd photo).

    Here are some photos that show what I am talking about:

    ProwlerDoorCclamp-P1000769.jpg ProwlerDoorBungee-P1000503.jpg ProwlerNextToHouse-P1010699.jpg

    1st shot shows how the door overlaps awning arm, 2nd shot shows how the door hits awning arm when awning is out, 3rd shot a side view of Prowler.

    I figured that the 'Ask The Factory' forum was where these kinds of issues were to be brought up.

    If not, then perhaps we shouldn't have have an 'Ask The Factory' forum for each Heartland brand name.

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    Re: ATF: Prowler - Placement of awning . . . design flaw?

    If you want to ask about moving the awning, you'll do better to call Heartland Customer Service. But I'm guessing that if you want to modify the placement of the awning, you'll be on your own to decide how to do it and whether it's a good idea.

    Maybe when you get to Las Vegas you can take out some tools and scratch your head while looking at the awning. That should collect a bunch of guys who'll offer opinions and help to figure out the best answer.


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