Just to clarify, in the past, we offered the auto leveling with 4 hydraulic legs and a set of rear electric stabilizer jacks that were auto-deployed by the leveling system.
In replace of that, now, when auto leveling is ordered with your new coach, it has 6 hydraulic legs and the rear electric stabilizers have been eliminated from the system. The 5th and 6th hydraulic legs are behind the rear axle tires.
That guy Ron over at TrialAir - one smart worker. He told me last year while in Goshen that the HL's would have 6 jacks. I was inquiring about adding 2 jacks to a factory equipped system. He said no problem but if I could wait he foresaw that that a change would be made.
Just a side note, for those that have the 4 jacks, an additional two can be added to your current system.
I'm pretty sure the rear electric stabilizers are controlled with a separate switch.
As mentioned later in this thread, these are being eliminated. I have completely removed my electric stab jacks after using the LevelUp for a year.
Also, you may not need the tri pod under the front pin because the front legs are canted about 5 degrees and this actually provides a pretty stable platform. I'm sure you'll get some replies from owners having this option.
I may not be an engineer, but I fail to see how the pin jacks are anything more then a marketing ploy.
Another option to consider is the TriGlide Trail Air pin. If the MorRyde pin becomes available as an option it would also be a good alternative consideration.
5th Airborne, TrailAir pin boxes or air ride hitch are all good air options. I would skip the tri glide on a heavy trailer like the Cyclone. Had it, did not like it at all.
If it is in the budget a Hensley air ride hitch with a MOR/ryde pin box is a fine combo. The MOR/ryde pin box can have the shear spring upgraded (no or minimal cost) for a heavier trailer.
If so on the 2 rear points are they right after (just to the rear) the axles if so does the rear electric stabilizers still come with or can I order them?? (that is a lot of space with no ground contact) for the front I can use the pin stabilizer tri pod
On my add on LevelUp the jacks are about 2' behind the rear axle. I have removed my electric jacks. Too long to deploy and no benefit seen with the hydraulic jacks.
I also believe the pin stabilizers are a waste of money. They will not stop any lateral movement and you already have some fairly big jacks holding up the nose of the trailer.