We just bought a new Raptor 365lev and love it! The layout is great and it pulls down the road nicely with our Dodge 3500 SRW. The second bath is a very nice feature but comes at a price with extra sewer dump opps.The suspension rides very well! We feel the quality is quite good. We looked at the Cyclones as well, but having a local dealer was important to us. My only suggestions would be to change the door orientation to master bath, have latches on doors to prop them open for better AC flow with 2nd AC unit (which I installed myself), and make the sewage valves for 2nd bathroom easier to get to(they are located under slideout above 1st axle). Hydraulic front jacks would also be welcomed. We are very happy with our purchase and had a trouble free maiden voyage. Beckley's RV of Thurmont, Md gave us a great deal and treated us very well! They did a great job on the PDI. I think the Raptors have come a long way!//heartlandowners.org/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif The new 2012's addressed all the bad comparisons that Cyclone/Hearland was using in its ad campaigns with new designs and components. I think the Cyclones and Raptors are very compaible now and both are great Toy Haulers. Just my honest opinion...