I can not believe that you ***** out his price. I for one, think that RV dealers in general need to be more honest about "MSRP" and costs that they incumber on selling rigs. I just bought my first 5th wheel and dealt with three seperate Heartland dealers that were either dishonest, or adding $10 - $15K to a Manufacturers MSRP on a cyclone, because (quote from a dealer), "Well, this is what we sell them for here in Reno, NV. I had to drive 550 miles into Southern California to get a price that was more than reasonable. I think that this is pretty sad, and I despise dishonest businesses that can not move product at a reasonable cost, instead of price goughing other customers. I am a very reasonable, yet highly educated buyer, and you could tell that the dealers I was trying to work with, were not used to this, which caused them to be dishonest. I contacted Heartland about this, and they said that they would look into it. By the way.... the Cyclone that I received from Richardsons RV in Ontario, CA (bought online, sight unseen), was exactly as described, ready to go, clean, and a very nice rig. I look forward to many years in this and hope that the gentleman above (looking at Razor), is able to get a fair deal and not get taken by an unscroupulous dealer. I know Heartland can not control everything, but how nice would it be to actually see a "Factory Window Sticker" as required by law on new vehicles, put into RV's. This way the consumer is not at the will of the local dealer, and the manufacturer is assured that the dealers are not turning away buyers with outrageous mark-ups. If I were not set on the exact model, I would have been looking at other products and Heartland would have lost me as a customer, possibly for life. And being that I am only 31, I imagine I have at least 4-5 more purcahses in the RV market to make before I lay in the dirt.