Dual Pane Windows?
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jnbhobe
Well-known member
Ahhh, another fish tale!!!!
danemayer
Well-known member
When I hear things like this, I usually figure the comment originated with a dealer who wanted to sell the single-pane rig he had on his lot, rather than have you look elsewhere for what you want.
A friend just bought a new Landmark. The dealer was trying to sell what he had and told my friend that full body paint is no longer offered. They ended up placing an order, but believed the full body paint story and just found out it's not true.
TandT
Founding Utah Chapter Leaders-Retired
Agreed.
We fulltime, have dual panes and have had no issues with them whatsoever
Some dealers need their knuckles rapped by the mfgr. when statements like that are made.
Lynn1130
Well-known member
Could be. Like many things there are a number of opinions out there. My 2011 3010 has "mirrored Solar Reflective Safety Glass Windows" but then I live in Arizona not Canada. The following is a quote from NU-WA's web site
"Can someone explain thermopane versus storm windows?
First of all we know of no "real" thermopane windows in the RV industry as are used in homes. Cost and vibration's impact on the window prevent this design.
What is available is a "dual pane" window, which does in fact have a 1/16" inert air space housed between two layers of glass instead of the normal single layer of glass. Don't expect tremendous difference in the insulation value created by the extra pane of glass and small air space. But those customers who have dual pane windows do feel they offer worthwhile benefits. Benefits mentioned by customers are increased insulation, reduction or elimination of window condensation, and noticeable reduction in outside noise penetration. Negative comments are the $1,300 approximate cost and 150 lbs of added weight.
Dual pane windows are only manufactured with a slider window design, so any jalousie windows in the trailer will become slider windows with the dual pane option. NuWa is not for or against dual pane windows, although the benefits for fulltimer customers is being appreciated more as customers influence our staff's thinking. It's an option worthy of consideration. "
"Can someone explain thermopane versus storm windows?
What is available is a "dual pane" window, which does in fact have a 1/16" inert air space housed between two layers of glass instead of the normal single layer of glass. Don't expect tremendous difference in the insulation value created by the extra pane of glass and small air space. But those customers who have dual pane windows do feel they offer worthwhile benefits. Benefits mentioned by customers are increased insulation, reduction or elimination of window condensation, and noticeable reduction in outside noise penetration. Negative comments are the $1,300 approximate cost and 150 lbs of added weight.
Dual pane windows are only manufactured with a slider window design, so any jalousie windows in the trailer will become slider windows with the dual pane option. NuWa is not for or against dual pane windows, although the benefits for fulltimer customers is being appreciated more as customers influence our staff's thinking. It's an option worthy of consideration. "
caissiel
Senior Member
I have the dual pane windows and the spacing is more like 1/4" and far more then 1/16". I would feel the same if I had only 1/16" spacing as it would surely be to small an air space to be worth anything. I feel those windows mentioned above are just for an excuse of having dual panes.
HEHR windows model 5600 like we have on our units state 1/8-1/4-1/8 for a total of 1/2" glass.
HEHR windows model 5600 like we have on our units state 1/8-1/4-1/8 for a total of 1/2" glass.
trackeer
Member
We ordered DP windows in our 3814 simply because we live in New England and plan to use our camper well into the later season perhaps even into winter, I can't attest to heat/cooling retention value but those who have them report a significant condensation improvement in their campers, condensation is a serious issue in enclosed area's like campers that have minimal air flow.
I would not hesitate recommending them even if the insulation barrier between the glass is minimal, it is an improvement enough to lower condensation so I would suspect other benefits as well, less heat/cooling loss,
quitier, etc.
So what's another grand or so, not like your going to buy one of these every 2 years unless you booboo and buy the wrong set-up, lololol
Good Luck
Moe in NH
I would not hesitate recommending them even if the insulation barrier between the glass is minimal, it is an improvement enough to lower condensation so I would suspect other benefits as well, less heat/cooling loss,
quitier, etc.
So what's another grand or so, not like your going to buy one of these every 2 years unless you booboo and buy the wrong set-up, lololol
Good Luck
Moe in NH
2psnapod2
Texas-South Chapter Leaders-Retired
We have the DP frameless windows and they really look nice. Not real crazy about the screens but they work.
porthole
Retired
That's an answer I would not trust coming from a dealer/salesman.
What don't you like about the screens?
2psnapod2
Texas-South Chapter Leaders-Retired
No I'm not a salesman. Just a Soldier thats ready to retire. The screens are ok, I'm just not crazy about how they hook into the window. They use a small clip and attach to the windows from inside. There are some gaps and they dont always stay put. But I would not go without the DP and I really like the look of the frameless. So don't go without them because of the screens. They do work, just not the best idea. JMO though. Michael
porthole
Retired
Not referring to you Mike. Always looking for real world answers, and who better to ask then someone with one of the newest rigs
jpajax
Well-known member
Not to high jack this thread but I don't think that the windows are the total problem of heat and cold lose in our campers. If you think about when you extend the slide outs and all that extra sq footage that has little or no insulation, then you will start to understand why things are like they are. But it is not only Heartland that has this problem it's a large amount of the units that are manufacture today. I think it would be a great selling point if Heartland would address this weak point. I am sure that the dual pane windows would help especially the big window in the rear of most models but it is not the major lose and gain of temp. in our campers.
akcycloners
Member
Anyone have any pictures of the dual panes in their Cyclone or other rig? Thanks in advance.
Karen/Gary Buxton
Member
We have the Kinro windows. Had a problem with three of them. One sucked out while driving....left the inside window intact. Could have happened while passing a truck. The glue on a rear window came loose. I understand that Mobile Suites and one other have stopped using these windows due to recurring problems. Seems like there is a problem with the adhesive that holds the outside frameless glass in place.
