G614's goodyear tires

Jim.Allison

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If I had it to do over again the G614 would be my choice, I don't see any news about the 114s being discontinued, its a trucking standard for 17.5 inch wheels. The equivalent tire in the Michelin is an interesting tire at $215 but the 63 mph concerns me. I do not tow over 60 but it is nice to know that I'm rolling on a 75 MPH tire with the 114. If they have discontinued the tire, that is not good news for me, but I will never have to replace them because they are worn they have a massive amount of tread, if I managed to wear off all the tread, I would just have them regrooved for another 1/2 inch of tread, and if it got down to it, I would have them recapped at an authorized recapping facility.
 

SeattleLion

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If I had it to do over again the G614 would be my choice, I don't see any news about the 114s being discontinued, its a trucking standard for 17.5 inch wheels. The equivalent tire in the Michelin is an interesting tire at $215 but the 63 mph concerns me. I do not tow over 60 but it is nice to know that I'm rolling on a 75 MPH tire with the 114. If they have discontinued the tire, that is not good news for me, but I will never have to replace them because they are worn they have a massive amount of tread, if I managed to wear off all the tread, I would just have them regrooved for another 1/2 inch of tread, and if it got down to it, I would have them recapped at an authorized recapping facility.

When you are talking about regrooving and retreading, are you talking about the 614's? Are they robust enough for very long term, long mileage use?
 

Jim.Allison

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I dont not want to hijack this thread, but it is obvious that you guys have questions involving specifically the Goodyear G614s and the G114s. So you guys that are disinterested, please forgive the long post.

My 114s have 3/4 inch of tread, after that they can be regrooved by a qualified shop for another 1/2 inch of tread. The 614's are not advertised as regroovable, but Goodyear classifies the 614s carcass as very retreadable.

http://www.goodyeartrucktires.com/tires/details.aspx?prodline=160007

The 614s have 1/2 inch of tread, which allows them to run cooler, this goes to carcass integrity. Once the 1/2 inch of tread is gone then its time for new ones or to have them "retreaded." I would not buy retreads on the onset, but I would have my own retreaded/recapped (grind the tire to the carcass and re apply the traction layer) if it came to it, and if it was worth it.

Retread process, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_NYEvNrw0

Regrooving Process, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEkuILJGNJY

I do not have experience with the 614s, but I have studied them, they can be inflated to 110 lbs and support 3750 lbs each, and are good to 75 mph, your rims are probably rated for the 110 lbs pressure, if not then thats a problem, my 16 inch rims were rated for the 110 psi and 3750 lbs load. So I could have gone with the 614s. In retrospect that would have been a good and inexpensive choice for my rig.

On this forum, one contributor noticed that his G614s only had 1/2 inch of tread left. He said he had only travelled about 20,000 miles and was disappointed at their performance. I explained to him that the tire came with only 1/2 inch of tread to begin with, he became very happy that he did not have to change them, and became impressed with them. Its a purely anecdotal story, but yet a good story about the 614s.

I did get to see the 614s on a high end rig, I liked them and they were clearly substantial tire and certainly more substantial than the BlowMax tires or any other 80 psi 3450 lb tire. And generally speaking they were obviously an appropriate tire for the rig. Its only speculation, but I'm sure that the handling is improved with this class of tire. They certainly stand proud, the excessive radial pooch out at the bottom of my blowmax always concerned me.You wont see this with a tire inflated to 110 lbs.

The upshot is if you want the most for your rig without changing out your 16 inch rims, the 614s or equivalent (3750 at 110 lbs) are PROBABLY the tires you seek. If you are willing to change the rims, then perhaps you want to look at 17.5 inch rims and the G114s or equivalent. But a rim change and a tire change is EXPENSIVE. Im happy with my 114s but I think I would have been just as happy with the G614s.

BUT you cannot know what you want, until you weigh your loaded rig. If any one wheel exceeds or approaches the 3750 weight, you have a problem that will have to be addressed. There are guys on this forum that can tell you how to most efficiently weigh your rig. There may be a link to a print out for this purpose. This is one of the most overlooked steps in understanding your tires, I weighed my rig loaded, and wet. You might be surprised at what you find when you properly weigh your rig. Find out how to most efficiently weigh it before you go to public scales, you will be under pressure there and you will come home having spent more money than needed, and a whole handful of unnecessary weight tickets to look at. Perhaps someone will jump in on the weighing subject.
 

SeattleLion

Well-known member
Thanks for the great information. One new fact I learned is that the 614's are rated at 75mph. That suggests the tire sheds heat more efficently than the 65mph tires. We probably won't get much above 60, but it's good to know we can. One other thing I learned (from my sportscar experience) is that the speed rating is for sustained driving. Even with the TowMax and other 65mph, a brief burst of speed to avoid trouble isn't going to kill the tires.

That settles it. We will be on 614's this season.
 

JohnDar

Prolifically Gabby Member
Rather than try to figure out how to get it right on a CAT scale, take a look at the RVSEF schedule. They weigh each tire, including your TV and give you a full report. In the past, they've been at the Goshen National Rally weighing rigs as they arrived. Cost is well worth it.

http://rvsafety.com/weighing/weighing-schedule
 

donr827

Well-known member
Rather than try to figure out how to get it right on a CAT scale, take a look at the RVSEF schedule. They weigh each tire, including your TV and give you a full report. In the past, they've been at the Goshen National Rally weighing rigs as they arrived. Cost is well worth it.

http://rvsafety.com/weighing/weighing-schedule

I called them a couple of years ago about their schedule. He told me that if I was around their home base, Melbourne Fla at that time, he could arrange to do one for me at his home base.
Don
 

Jim.Allison

Well-known member
Cat scales are to complicated, public scales like the ones you find at feed mills and scrap yards are easier. The easiest is find someone who can weigh each wheel like JohnDar suggest.
 

JohnDar

Prolifically Gabby Member
Cat scales are to complicated, public scales like the ones you find at feed mills and scrap yards are easier. The easiest is find someone who can weigh each wheel like JohnDar suggest.

The advantage of having the RVSEF weighing is you will get load readings for all of your truck tires, as well. With that, you can modify the inflation level of the TV tires. In my case, the left front tire of the truck was 5 psi under inflated based on the load distribution, since I using the pressures shown on the door sticker. Trailer was fine at 110 psi, though.

It will also give you a very accurate pin weight.
 

Jim.Allison

Well-known member
Those are some nice looking tires. There is no ST tire pooch at the bottom. LOL. They look like they will handle well. I like the way my 114s look also. Nice and round and very capable. I was always looking at the ST Blowmax, I knew in my gut they were not capable of standing up to fiver demands. I should have listened to my gut. It cost me 2k in damages to a brand new rig. Fortunately my insurance company paid for the damage.

Our 2015 Elkridge came with factory rims rated for 110psi. Installed G614s at the dealer. Good move.....

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