Landing legs & 6 pt level support rig w/o tires

[NYSUPstater]

Question. I asked about new tires for our Big Country and later thought of another question.

yes, I've used the 2 hyd cyl on one side to lift the coach to grease things or to remove a wheel w/o a problem. Truck was attached to coach at same time. Now can I raise the whole coach w/o the truck attached using just the front jacks and 4 other cyl in order to remove the tires when time comes to take them to shop for new ones? This way I can toss them into truck and take them down and leave them and p/u next day or so. Yes, I could take the whole rig down and do 1 side at a time and waste a good portion of my day as they do them ( don't think they'll take 'em off and re-install 'em). Need to put HD jack stands under rear portion of frame as well as front if done this way?? I know I've lifted the whole coach w/ truck attached w/ the rear legs, put put stands under the frame while under it.

What's the verdict? If it could be done, how long will the everything stay up w/o going down by itself?

Thanks gang.

 

[cookie]

When I had my recalled Sailuns replaced I did exactly what you are proposing, take all the tires in at once.
Use jack stands for safety. I used four 6K stands.
As far as concerns about dropping down by itself, it shouldn't. My rig has been sitting with the tires of the ground all winter. It hasn't moved.

Peace
Dave

 

[Piperflyer]

Did you jack the axles and support with jack stands to remove the tires or jack and support the RV frame with the stands?

 

[cookie]

I just raised the entire rig with the Level-up system till the wheels were of the ground then put the stands under the frame, both sides, front and rear of the main frame.
The only caution would be to watch that you don't flip a shackle when lowering.

Peace
Dave

 

[jmarnell]

When we needed new tires, I also used the leveling system to raise our Cyclone high enough to remove all 6 tires at the same time. Loaded them into our small utility trailer and took them down to the dealer to get the new tires mounted. Worked fine. I had it up without the tires for a couple of days without any issues. We have the MorRyde independent suspension system, so no shackles to worry about when lowering back down.

 

[NYSUPstater]

I haven't done anything yet as the RV is still in storage. Just wondering if ok to lift the entire rig without the truck attached using the 6 pt only.

Should I place stands on either side of the axles for 4 in total there and 2 more up front (1 on each side/behind the landing legs)?

Based on replies so far, ok to do so, just take extra steps in case of jack failure. Now to see if my shop will let me borrow 4 or 6 for a cple days.

 

[Tinwindow3]

Not sure if my post belongs here but it’s similar. First time using my level up on my fifth. No matter what I do the unit is dead level but the one side tires are about 6 inches off the ground. First - should they be? Second- is it safe to camp with the 6 jacks and 2 wheels on the ground? Third - it seems to me that the whole unit could be just as level 6 inches lower if everything moved at once. We did set the zero point again but still raises the wheels when we go to a new place.

 

[david-steph2018]

With the wheels off the ground, you can flip the spring hangars and that will cause issues with the way the rig rides.
You can go to manual mode and lower the rig to the point it is lower and still level.

 

[Piperflyer]

So is it OK to jack the axles to remove the tires, so the spring hangers don't flip while the rig is on its leveling jacks only?

 

[travelin2]

Flipping shackles. BTDT. If you be changing tires or repacking bearings on one side at a time on a close to level site by making sure the off side is still on the surface the shackles “shouldn’t” flip. However if the site pad is way off level then there is a good chance they will flip. That’s happened to me.
I’ve had all four tires off the ground on a fairly level surface working on the suspension and flipped the shackles so it’s easy to do.
On that level surface it was easy to correct by placing a couple 2” boards under one of the axles then lowering the rig. When I flipped them on the uneven surface at my home it was a PITA to correct

 

[cxander72]

Not sure if my post belongs here but it’s similar. First time using my level up on my fifth. No matter what I do the unit is dead level but the one side tires are about 6 inches off the ground. First - should they be? Second- is it safe to camp with the 6 jacks and 2 wheels on the ground? Third - it seems to me that the whole unit could be just as level 6 inches lower if everything moved at once. We did set the zero point again but still raises the wheels when we go to a new place.

I am not sure what year your trailer is but I just took my 2024 cyclone 3714 back to the dealer for a similar issue with the leveling system. After three weeks of troubleshooting every component, they discovered two hydraulic lines were installed wrong. I would recommend you have the dealership, or your preferred service center look at it.

 

[Tinwindow3]

Flipping shackles. BTDT. If you be changing tires or repacking bearings on one side at a time on a close to level site by making sure the off side is still on the surface the shackles “shouldn’t” flip. However if the site pad is way off level then there is a good chance they will flip. That’s happened to me.
I’ve had all four tires off the ground on a fairly level surface working on the suspension and flipped the shackles so it’s easy to do.
On that level surface it was easy to correct by placing a couple 2” boards under one of the axles then lowering the rig. When I flipped them on the uneven surface at my home it was a PITA to correct

So I have to ask not being smart at all but what’s the purpose of auto level if you still need boards and manual mode? I just don’t understand the purpose

 

[david-steph2018]

So is it OK to jack the axles to remove the tires, so the spring hangers don't flip while the rig is on its leveling jacks only?

You can place jack stands under the axles to keep them from lowering.

 

[travelin2]

So I have to ask not being smart at all but what’s the purpose of auto level if you still need boards and manual mode? I just don’t understand the purpose

Flip the shackles and you’ll see the importance of a few boards

Additionally if the site is far from level boards under the level up jacks are good

Unless you’re consistently parking on level concrete site pads, knowing how to use manual mode comes in handy