Nitrogen

[Willym]

That's a good point, (although moisture can be present in any gas), if they supply dry nitrogen, it's probably a lot drier than the air from most air compressors. As to the significance of moisture, I'll need to do some calculations on water vapour pressure and then figure out the contribution to the total.

Willym, I agree with you. As I understand, pure Nitrogen does not hold moisture, whereas compressed air is quite saturated with moisture. If you were to fill your tires very dry air, it would be more stable, but you won't ever find a gas station with a refrigerated low-temp air drier. The moisture content of compressed air makes it less volumetrically stable over a temperature range.

 

[Hastey]

C'mon you guys! I've had deer whistles on my last three trucks and I haven't hit a deer yet. So, they must work, right?

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Daddy had deer whistles on his van back around 1996 and plowed down a nice 12 point anyway.

 

[lwmcguir]

Plain old air is 79% Nitrogen. Big question is..If they don't pull a vacuum in your tires how can they fill them with 100% Nitrogen? If it's free take it. If you have to pay for it forget about it. This topic has been covered many times over on all the forums. If you have it and need to add air don't go out of your way to find Nitrogen. It's value for general automotive purposes....well, it's like deer whistles. If you want to believe in it go ahead....Don

I have to agree 100%, been there done that and it isn't worth a penny extra

 

[tireman9]

If you use Nitrogen there will be "Magic". At least according to some who sell the product. For more details and the formulas I suggest you read this Blog post.

 

[superduty08]

I use nitrogen and have been satisfied with a better variance in tire pressures and temps. From what I have read is that the drier gas helps slow the tire break down from the inside out. But then I also use deer whistles.

 

[katkens]

I use nitrogen and have been satisfied with a better variance in tire pressures and temps. From what I have read is that the drier gas helps slow the tire break down from the inside out. But then I also use deer whistles.

LOL.....just loved your comment about the deer whistles.........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_horn

 

[caissiel]

I have to warn the owner of the trailer with 100 PSI that nitrogen at 100PSI will not keep the tire cool. The rubber and cords are heavier so will heat up faster then at 110lbs. I have observed TTPMS that the lower pressure tires on my trailer will run hotter and at times the pressure catches up to others due to higher air temperature. For me as for tire protection air is my choice. I never feel comfortable with any pressure less then 110 PSI.

 

[rick_debbie_gallant]

I am thinking about putting in 100% helium. That should make my trailers lighter and my truck use less gas. Next I am going to rig up a sail on top. That should help alot. Land Ho.

 

[rick_debbie_gallant]

seriously though, it has already been said that regular air contains 79 to 80 % nitrogen, only problem is the moisture. I think I will save my money on the 20 percent nitrogen and just buy more gas.

 

[jmgratz]

I have had two tire experts (one a Goodyear tire engineer) tell me not to waste my money on nitrogen so I don't. I can carry an air compressor. I cannot carry a nitrogen compressor. But then again, to each their own.

 

[Willym]

Good idea! It will also be a good leak detector, just hold a conversation near each tire, and if you sound funny, then you have a leak. This may not work for southerners though.

I am thinking about putting in 100% helium. That should make my trailers lighter and my truck use less gas. Next I am going to rig up a sail on top. That should help alot. Land Ho.