Pioneer Tire Blow out..help please

[Hilly58]

Hi Everyone
We own a 2018 Pioneer 322bh and love it. The first year we traveled with no issues.
Last year all four tires blew out within the space of a few months. We put it down to the camper sitting at the RV dealership on concrete and replaced them with new E rated tires ..m for speed. First trip this year...only one hour of driving and at 60 mph and one of those new tires has now blown! Thats 5 tires now!! We're beyond frustrated. We owned a Jayco 5th wheel for a decade and didn't lose one tire. Our 5th wheel is not over loaded, the water tanks were empty and we don't drive fast. It's not stored on concrete in direct sun. Anyone else had problems or ideas please? Thanks so much.

 

[rwdennis]

what brand of tire is it ? there are some tires made in china called china bombs , google the brand you have and see if thease apply , ive had great luck with the newer goodyears endurance , also have good luck with sailums .

 

[Hilly58]

Thank you so much! We will try Goodyear Endurance for sure. The original tires from the dealership were Trailer King. The last one that blew was a National Road Max. We'll Google them. Appreciate your help.

 

[david-steph2018]

Hi Everyone
We own a 2018 Pioneer 322bh and love it. The first year we traveled with no issues.
Last year all four tires blew out within the space of a few months. We put it down to the camper sitting at the RV dealership on concrete and replaced them with new E rated tires ..m for speed. First trip this year...only one hour of driving and at 60 mph and one of those new tires has now blown! Thats 5 tires now!! We're beyond frustrated. We owned a Jayco 5th wheel for a decade and didn't lose one tire. Our 5th wheel is not over loaded, the water tanks were empty and we don't drive fast. It's not stored on concrete in direct sun. Anyone else had problems or ideas please? Thanks so much.

We run Sailuns S637 on our Road Warrior. We still have the original set that came from the factory on it with almost 15K miles on them. One thing when and wherever you get the new tires double check the date stamp. Try not to settle for a date stamp more than 6 months or so old.

 

[Flick]

Thank you so much! We will try Goodyear Endurance for sure. The original tires from the dealership were Trailer King. The last one that blew was a National Road Max. We'll Google them. Appreciate your help.

The Endurance will be a great choice. Since you do not have 16” wheels, Sailuns will not be an option on your trailer.
I put a set of Goodyear Endurance on my daughter’s fifth wheel and they have given her good service.
They are available in 14” or 15” size. The 15” carry 80# psi and it’s important to inflate to 80# psi cold.
Good luck and go with a name brand tire. You won’t regret it.

 

[Hilly58]

Thank you David-Steph2018 and Flick. Appreciate both of your comments. After owning a Jayco 5th wheel for a decade and not having had one blowout you can imagine we're somewhat perplexed! Thx for great advice.

 

[centerline]

what brand of tire is it ? there are some tires made in china called china bombs , google the brand you have and see if thease apply , ive had great luck with the newer goodyears endurance , also have good luck with sailums .

for everyones information, even though the goodyear is an american company, and their tires say MADE IN USA, their TRAILER TIRES are NOT... goodyear has closed down their trailer tire division and has been having china make their trailer tires for the past 8 years....

china isnt the problem with the trailer tires, but its the spec requirement of the company that is having china make the tires that determine the quality....

I am NOT bashing goodyear, as they do offer some quality tires, but people should know the facts so if fingers have to be pointed, the blame can be placed accordingly...

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Hi Everyone
We own a 2018 Pioneer 322bh and love it. The first year we traveled with no issues.
Last year all four tires blew out within the space of a few months. We put it down to the camper sitting at the RV dealership on concrete and replaced them with new E rated tires ..m for speed. First trip this year...only one hour of driving and at 60 mph and one of those new tires has now blown! Thats 5 tires now!! We're beyond frustrated. We owned a Jayco 5th wheel for a decade and didn't lose one tire. Our 5th wheel is not over loaded, the water tanks were empty and we don't drive fast. It's not stored on concrete in direct sun. Anyone else had problems or ideas please? Thanks so much.

with trailer tires, the air pressure needs to always be at its fully rated air pressure... if not, the tires can create heat buildup, and blow out... their are other reasons for blow outs also, but low pressure failure is an absolute problem that will eventually happen with any tire designed with sidewalls that are meant to be stiffer than a passenger tire, while carrying its load at highway speeds....

 

[Hilly58]

for everyones information, even though the goodyear is an american company, and their tires say MADE IN USA, their TRAILER TIRES are NOT... goodyear has closed down their trailer tire division and has been having china make their trailer tires for the past 8 years....

china isnt the problem with the trailer tires, but its the spec requirement of the company that is having china make the tires that determine the quality....

I am NOT bashing goodyear, as they do offer some quality tires, but people should know the facts so if fingers have to be pointed, the blame can be placed accordingly...

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with trailer tires, the air pressure needs to always be at its fully rated air pressure... if not, the tires can create heat buildup, and blow out... their are other reasons for blow outs also, but low pressure failure is an absolute problem that will eventually happen with any tire designed with sidewalls that are meant to be stiffer than a passenger tire, while carrying its load at highway speeds....

Thanks for your response.. My husband read an article from Jan 30th 2017 that says the Goodyear Endurance Trailer Tire is now built in the US.

 

[Jim Posz]

We are on our second set of Goodyear Endurance, and have been quite happy with both. We did the Alaska highway and several other long trips with the first set. We have 16" wheels, load range E on our rig.

Another positive about the Endurance tires is that they have a higher speed rating than most, so if you happen to exceed 65 mph you aren't exceeding your tire rating.

For what it's worth, they have "Made in USA" stamped on the sidewall. Goodyear "Marathon" trailer tires were made in China, last I knew. Another story.

 

[Bogie]

with trailer tires, the air pressure needs to always be at its fully rated air pressure... if not, the tires can create heat buildup, and blow out... their are other reasons for blow outs also, but low pressure failure is an absolute problem that will eventually happen with any tire designed with sidewalls that are meant to be stiffer than a passenger tire, while carrying its load at highway speeds....

I have to respectfully disagree. For a quality tire, the manufacture will provide a load pressure table. If your load on an individual tire was 1000 lbs., you would run a different pressure if the load on that same tire was 2000 lbs. A good reason to have your trailer weighed.

Here is the table for Goodyear Endurance tires.

 

[jbeletti]

Hilly58 - sorry to hear about your blowouts. You've gotten some good tire advice here.

I would like to suggest that you take a close look at your running gear, just to make sure that it's not part of the reason you've blown 5 tires.

Look at the frame, the spring hangers, the spring bolts, the springs, the spring bolt tie plates and u-bolt and finally - your axles (to ensure positive - camber).

 

[RickL]

for everyones information, even though the goodyear is an american company, and their tires say MADE IN USA, their TRAILER TIRES are NOT... goodyear has closed down their trailer tire division and has been having china make their trailer tires for the past 8 years....

china isnt the problem with the trailer tires, but its the spec requirement of the company that is having china make the tires that determine the quality....

I am NOT bashing goodyear, as they do offer some quality tires, but people should know the facts so if fingers have to be pointed, the blame can be placed accordingly...

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with trailer tires, the air pressure needs to always be at its fully rated air pressure... if not, the tires can create heat buildup, and blow out... their are other reasons for blow outs also, but low pressure failure is an absolute problem that will eventually happen with any tire designed with sidewalls that are meant to be stiffer than a passenger tire, while carrying its load at highway speeds....

Huh? Goodyear did move their production of Marathon trailer tires to China a number of years ago, however when they introduced the Endurance trailer tires they are built in the USA.

As for problems with “blowouts” first place to check is trailer weight. Sounds simple, but until you know the travel weight it’s hard to determine the root cause of the failures. It’s highly unusual for 4 tires to fail, much less having a 5th tire fail. Also, what air pressure are you running with in your tires? Contrary to belief, over inflating your tires does NOT increase their load carrying capacity (thought I’d address that elephant in the room to begin with)

 

[jdouthwaite]

Hi Everyone
We own a 2018 Pioneer 322bh and love it. The first year we traveled with no issues.
Last year all four tires blew out within the space of a few months. We put it down to the camper sitting at the RV dealership on concrete and replaced them with new E rated tires ..m for speed. First trip this year...only one hour of driving and at 60 mph and one of those new tires has now blown! Thats 5 tires now!! We're beyond frustrated. We owned a Jayco 5th wheel for a decade and didn't lose one tire. Our 5th wheel is not over loaded, the water tanks were empty and we don't drive fast. It's not stored on concrete in direct sun. Anyone else had problems or ideas please? Thanks so much.

Look at the weight of the trailer. We have an RL250. We have gone through 7 tires and have had three sets of axles. The first two sets of axles were 3500 pound axles and they failed TWICE. We also broke a leaf spring. The axles and the leaf springs were flat. We had the trailer weighed at a weigh station and we had 6800 pounds over the axles and we are not carrying anything extraordinary. The base weight of our trailer is 6175. We have now put on 5000 pound axles. The trailer handles better and we are no longer going through tires.