Price check on Ford DRW 1ton

[jmgratz]

Sticker is just over 63k. From shopping around it seems to be the best that I can do.

Where is the dealer in Texas. We got a new 2012 F350 dually, FX4 (4 wheel drive), King Ranch, diesel. The sticker was 65k and we paid 52k before our trade in (2010 F350 King Ranch dually). Sounds to me like the price in in the ball park but see if you can't negotiate the dealer installing the fifth wheel hitch and electrical hook up.

 

[mattpopp]

Where is the dealer in Texas. We got a new 2012 F350 dually, FX4 (4 wheel drive), King Ranch, diesel. The sticker was 65k and we paid 52k before our trade in (2010 F350 King Ranch dually). Sounds to me like the price in in the ball park but see if you can't negotiate the dealer installing the fifth wheel hitch and electrical hook up.

Mac Haik in Houston. Every King Ranch F-350 DRW they had on the lot was priced at $52k. They have about 5 of them right now. The Lariat was about a $1k more. That is because none of the KR came with Nav.

 

[dave10a]

Good luck you will really like the new truck. Start thinking about air bags though. About the only drawback to the new springs on the 2011+ trucks.
And you will know you are towing a 40' traielr behind you





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Mine pulls and handle very well with the stock Ford suspension. Can't see spending more money to improve anything. I did get every option they offered for suspension.

 

[scottyb]

The king ranch Use to come with a distressed saddle leather. Now it is just the same leather as the lariats but brown. Not worth the money anymore.

I don't like the brown dash either. The Lariat is what appealed to me. With the King Ranch you get less options for more money.

Here is the truck that I bought.

Congrats on a beutiful truck. That's one of the trucks I was looking at. My fleet guy at Mack Haik in Georgetown is working on it. Georgetown had a white / adobe KR w/o NAV for 50.9K if you use FMC financing. I really want a Lariat loaded with everything except NAV and sunroof. 2012's are getting harder to find and I may have to compromise or order a 2013.

 

[jmgratz]

We love ours and personally we love the navagation and won't be without it. I love the fact we can be traveling down the road and look at the weather radar to see if we are driving into a storm or be in a town and find out how to get to where we want or get back to where we were, or push a button and find a hospital, post office, police station etc.

 

[jnbhobe]

I like my Garmin 100 times more than the factory nav and it costs 1/10th as much with lifetime maps. Wait till we see what the factory updates will cost us.

 

[jmgratz]

I like my Garmin 100 times more than the factory nav and it costs 1/10th as much with lifetime maps. Wait till we see what the factory updates will cost us.

Yeah but I love having the larger screen and having it built in where I dont have to worry about where to put it.

 

[mattpopp]

Yeah but I love having the larger screen and having it built in where I dont have to worry about where to put it.

I love the ford Nav. Not sure if I like the version going into the 2013 models as its the one from the 1/2 tons and car models.

Never been a fan of the hand held units that you mount on the dash or windshield.

But I am still learning on it. There are a lot of features I haven't even figured out yet.

Where is this weather radar app on the Nav. That sure would be handy.

 

[Manzan]

We have a Tom Tom Via and it works just fine. Use it in my 2003 Suburban when on a trip and can back it up with MS Streets and Trips with GPS in this laptop. Don't always agree but fun to compare. Also have a Camry Hybrid with built in GPS. Lots easier to see and if we have the other two in there, can compare routes and pick the one that suits us best.

 

[porthole]

Mine pulls and handle very well with the stock Ford suspension. Can't see spending more money to improve anything. I did get every option they offered for suspension.

What did you get that changed the rear springs on a 350?

I have yet to see a 2011+ 250-350 SRW or 350-450 DRW that didn't drop a few inches below level when dropping a heavy 5th wheel on the hitch (2500+). With the new springs they all drop just enough to push your headlights high.

And the "FX4" "rancho" shocks are nothing more then cheap shocks re-painted and branded rancho and colored boots added. They are not the same shocks available over the counter, nor anywhere near the quality of the OTC upgrades.

 

[jmgratz]

What did you get that changed the rear springs on a 350?

I have yet to see a 2011+ 250-350 SRW or 350-450 DRW that didn't drop a few inches below level when dropping a heavy 5th wheel on the hitch (2500+). With the new springs they all drop just enough to push your headlights high.

And the "FX4" "rancho" shocks are nothing more then cheap shocks re-painted and branded rancho and colored boots added. They are not the same shocks available over the counter, nor anywhere near the quality of the OTC upgrades.

Not trying to dispute your comments but is this just your opinion or do you have some facts to back up what you are saying about the factory shocks on the FX4? Just wondering as I have an FX4 too.

 

[MTPockets]

What did you get that changed the rear springs on a 350?

I have yet to see a 2011+ 250-350 SRW or 350-450 DRW that didn't drop a few inches below level when dropping a heavy 5th wheel on the hitch (2500+). With the new springs they all drop just enough to push your headlights high.

And the "FX4" "rancho" shocks are nothing more then cheap shocks re-painted and branded rancho and colored boots added. They are not the same shocks available over the counter, nor anywhere near the quality of the OTC upgrades.

Our SRW rides perfectly level.. We ordered the max spring pak with 11,500 GVWR on our King Ranch. Not sure what the Rancho shocks give you other than color. FX4 package gets you skid plates and Hill Descent on SRW and a different decal.

 

[lwmcguir]

What did you get that changed the rear springs on a 350?

I have yet to see a 2011+ 250-350 SRW or 350-450 DRW that didn't drop a few inches below level when dropping a heavy 5th wheel on the hitch (2500+). With the new springs they all drop just enough to push your headlights high.

And the "FX4" "rancho" shocks are nothing more then cheap shocks re-painted and branded rancho and colored boots added. They are not the same shocks available over the counter, nor anywhere near the quality of the OTC upgrades.

We ordered the additional GVW package and are very happy that our truck levels to a perfect position to travel. The Augusta is nose heavy and weight 3700 pounds loaded on the pin. Had to install air bags on the other TV's but not on the F350. It sits rear high until you drop the load on and then it settles out on the overload springs and rides like a dream. Of course the CP and Goose Box help also.

 

[jnbhobe]

the biggest difference is the four inch blocks on the 350 versus 2 inch blocks on the rear springs mine rides level with without airbags

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[mattpopp]

Our SRW rides perfectly level.. We ordered the max spring pak with 11,500 GVWR on our King Ranch. Not sure what the Rancho shocks give you other than color. FX4 package gets you skid plates and Hill Descent on SRW and a different decal.

I have the FX4 package and as far as I understand it I dont have the Hill Decent (Exhaust Brake) option. As there should be an activation button by the TRaction Control button.

The tranny will downshift early in Tow Haul mode and use resistance from high rpm to add to the slowing of the truck. But that is only effective if there is enough rpms in that particular gear to help

 

[lwmcguir]

I have the FX4 package and as far as I understand it I dont have the Hill Decent (Exhaust Brake) option. As there should be an activation button by the TRaction Control button.

The tranny will downshift early in Tow Haul mode and use resistance from high rpm to add to the slowing of the truck. But that is only effective if there is enough rpms in that particular gear to help

If you are doing a lot of towing downhill with heavy loads, the manual transmission option is the best way to go. Works great. Didn't know about any button must be a 2013 option. The 2011-2012 Fords use the regenerative process which I find works well. Slower speeds maybe not as good.

 

[scottyb]

I have the FX4 package and as far as I understand it I dont have the Hill Decent (Exhaust Brake) option. As there should be an activation button by the TRaction Control button.

The tranny will downshift early in Tow Haul mode and use resistance from high rpm to add to the slowing of the truck. But that is only effective if there is enough rpms in that particular gear to help

You do have exhaust braking. All Ford's new diesels since 2011 have it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlfz8LAM1xs There's no activation switch like there is on the GM or Dodge. It's activated in T/H mode when you tap the brakes and works best at higher RPM's.

 

[porthole]

Not trying to dispute your comments but is this just your opinion or do you have some facts to back up what you are saying about the factory shocks on the FX4? Just wondering as I have an FX4 too.

jim - in order of difficulty:
1) check out the Ford truck forums, in particular Ford Truck Enthusiast
2) Call Rancho tech support
3) Crawl under your truck at look at the cheesy white paint (no doubt rusting through already) and near the Rancho decal you will find a standard Ford part number and the word Motorcraft stamped on the lower end.

We ordered the max spring pak with 11,500 GVWR on our King Ranch. Not sure what the Rancho shocks give you other than color. FX4 package gets you skid plates and Hill Descent on SRW and a different decal.

Not sure what you mean by max spring pak, 350's should have already had the heaviest springs in the rear.
Th OP was-now has a DRW, hill descent not available on the DRW's as well as the electric locking axle.

Our SRW rides perfectly level.

the biggest difference is the four inch blocks on the 350 versus 2 inch blocks on the rear springs mine rides level with without airbags

As Jon noted, the SRW comes with 4" high riser blocks between the spring and axle. The DRW has 2" blocks. So, if your truck is level on a already high SRW with the same weight it will be 2" lower on the DRW.

And with the DRW that puts it less then level and too high headlights. Not easy to see in the picture, but the upper pic of truck is unloaded, bottom, somewhere between 2500-3000 pounds on the pin.

I have the FX4 package and as far as I understand it I dont have the Hill Decent (Exhaust Brake) option. As there should be an activation button by the TRaction Control button.

The tranny will downshift early in Tow Haul mode and use resistance from high rpm to add to the slowing of the truck. But that is only effective if there is enough rpms in that particular gear to help

Matt - You do not have the hill descent with the DRW, that is a SRW only option (as is the electric locking differential).
"Hill descent" is effective up to about 20 mph going downhill. The system uses a combination of engine control and hydraulic brake activation to maintain a slow speed going down a steep hill.

Although the DRW's are listed as not having it, you probably have the "hill hold" feature. This feature will keep your service brakes applied for about 2 seconds when you take your foot off the brake on a hill, giving you time to apply throttle before rolling backwards. AFAIK it only works uphill. This is a neat feature and works well.

None of the Fords have an exhaust brake. They do have a cheesy way of branding what they do have, engine braking controlled by the PCM.

You do have exhaust braking. All Ford's new diesels since 2011 have it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlfz8LAM1xs There's no activation switch like there is on the GM or Dodge. It's activated in T/H mode when you tap the brakes and works best at higher RPM's.

No, you don't. Dumping exhaust into the intake is nothing more then EGR and not an exhaust brake. Mike Rowe is just reading a script from marketing.
And BTW, in the video is a good example of a DRW with a heavy load and sitting low in the rear, and the headlights high.

 

[scottyb]

No, you don't. Dumping exhaust into the intake is nothing more then EGR and not an exhaust brake. Mike Rowe is just reading a script from marketing.
And BTW, in the video is a good example of a DRW with a heavy load and sitting low in the rear, and the headlights high.​

Mike Rowe is only reading what Ford is telling him to read, and it is the same thing that's on Ford's website. GM and Dodge use variable vanes in their turbos to create back pressure rather than a butterfly valve on the exhaust, which a traditional exhaust brake employs. Ford directs the exhaust into the intake which starves the engine. All of them achievie braking by manipulating the exhaust and creating back pressure, which inhibits the upstroke. However, they are all selling them under the premise of having exhaust braking.​

 

[porthole]

OK, you win. But if you would like, pm me an email and I will send you the book on the 6.7 engine, it's design and how it works.
BTW, all three use VGT's for engine operation/pressure control. GM and Dodge just take it a step further. And Banks did it before either GM or Dodge for braking purposes.