Thanks to everyone who replied, the good and the bad. That's what forums are all about, finding out what other people think. Don't get me wrong, as I said earlier we love our Sundance, we are just outgrowing it and trying to find the right fifth wheel camper that represents the most value to us. If all things remain equal for the next few years we will be back looking at the cyclone (I personally can't wait, but I am not the only one in the family).