What's your favorite carry weapon?

JohnDar

Prolifically Gabby Member
Colorado honors permits from most states, but only if held by a resident of the issuing state.

The LegalHeat maps, in my opinion, portray this more clearly than USACarry.

Both sources are probably banned in New Jersey. :p

Exactly my point. Can't use a "mail order" permit or one of those "Concealed Carry" badges they sell in magazines. Besides just looking at the maps, you need to read the individual state's permit laws (which is on LegalHeat, et.al.).

And if you travel with firearms, there are some states you need to avoid like the plague, regardless of your state issued permit.
 

dave10a

Well-known member
Or - get a S&W Governor, 6 rounds instead of 5 and you can also use 45 Long Colt
The judge is less expensive and is not as finely manufactured as the Governor and I don't think is matters if it is holds one less round. The nice thing about either the Judge of Governor is they are both very lethal and the collateral damage is less severe.
 

Tsys100718

Active Member
When I travel, which is not as often as I would like, for EDC, I carry either a Remington R1 1911 .45, or a Taurus Millennium PT111 G2, double stack 9mm, or a S&W M&P Shield. single stack 9mm, or a Ruger GP100 .357 revolver. Which weapon I carry depends on several factors and may change day to day.

For RV defense I maintain a Mossberg 505 .410 pump, a VEPR12, AK based semi-auto 12 ga., a Marlin lever action 30-30 and a Mossberg 702 Plinkster 22LR.

I have a safe mounted in my rig for safety and a locked safe in my tow rig for ammo. I also have a Cobra .380 as my permanent truck weapon.

My Georgia CC permit is recognized by the majority of states with a few of the more socialist states excluded.
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Handgun is a personal preferance between a revolver or automatic. I like revolver and went with a Ruger LCR .357. Thinking of getting a pocket auto, maybe Ruger LCR.

For a shotgun for protection, I have a Mossberg Shockwave. I have the 12 gauge, they have just added a 20 gauge. The gun is just over 24" in total length and no special permits are required from the federal government. But you will need to check with local because of the small size. I can use mini shells and load up to 10 rounds in the gun. Its small size make manuvering in halls, around doors very easy. Remington also has a version of this.
Which mini-shell adapter do you use on the Shockwave?
 

travlingman

Well-known member
When I travel, which is not as often as I would like, for EDC, I carry either a Remington R1 1911 .45, or a Taurus Millennium PT111 G2, double stack 9mm, or a S&W M&P Shield. single stack 9mm, or a Ruger GP100 .357 revolver. Which weapon I carry depends on several factors and may change day to day.

For RV defense I maintain a Mossberg 505 .410 pump, a VEPR12, AK based semi-auto 12 ga., a Marlin lever action 30-30 and a Mossberg 702 Plinkster 22LR.

I have a safe mounted in my rig for safety and a locked safe in my tow rig for ammo. I also have a Cobra .380 as my permanent truck weapon.

My Georgia CC permit is recognized by the majority of states with a few of the more socialist states excluded.
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Which mini-shell adapter do you use on the Shockwave?

So far I haven't had any issue without one. I will probably get the Opsol for peace of mind, but I see the price of them has went through the roof for some reason.
 

Tsys100718

Active Member
Another one to leave home when coming to New Jersey.

Semi auto, magazine capacity over 6 and pistol grip ..................

Only one of those is correct. It is a semi-automatic. However, unless I bring my 25 round drum, which I usually don't, the factory magazine is only 5 rounds. As far as the pistol grip goes, it does not TECHNICALLY have a pistol grip, but a carved wood stock with a thumb pass-through. So states that reject pistol grips do not usually reject this stock.

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Regards.
Rich
 

Tsys100718

Active Member
I was reading an advertisement in my latest issue of Field and Stream from Winchester and their .410 shot shell designed for the Taurus Judge. It has 3 larger discs for penatration and 12 BB shot shell for dispersment. Anyone use this ammo? Any thoughts? I think I might look into a Judge for the Heartland.

Thanks
Jamie

I use this ammo in my Mossberg 505 pump and at least on wooden targets it's a wicked round. I keep the tube loaded with two of these and one in the pipe. So that's three of these up front, then the rest of the tube alternates these with slugs.

Regards.
Rich
 

porthole

Retired
Only one of those is correct. It is a semi-automatic. However, unless I bring my 25 round drum, which I usually don't, the factory magazine is only 5 rounds. As far as the pistol grip goes, it does not TECHNICALLY have a pistol grip, but a carved wood stock with a thumb pass-through. So states that reject pistol grips do not usually reject this stock.

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You didn't initially mention a thumbhole pistol grip.

Have at it - as someone that lives in Jersey and has been dealing with our laws for quite some time, you would have a heard time with that in the eyes of a LEO.

We have a lot of LEO's that are enthusiasts, we also have a lot that only see a range when they have to qualify.
When the item in question is questionable there will be no question as to where an individual will wind up sporting anything that looks non compliant with the many LEO's. It will be arrest first, ask questions later.

You could call the New Jersey State Police, who are responsible for enforcing our gun laws on 3 different days, talk to three different troopers and probably get 3 different answers on the not so cut and dry issues.

The factory magazine may only be 5 rounds, but larger magazines are available - argue that with a NJ SP Trooper.
It may be a thumbhole pistol grip, but could you fire that particular shotgun one handed with that thumbhole pistol grip?

"semi-automatic" means a firearm which fires a single projectile for each pull of the trigger and is self-reloading orautomatically chambers a round, cartridge or bullet. For purposes of this paragraph "pistol grip" means a well definedhandle, similar to that found on a handgun, that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, and whichpermits the shotgun to be held and fired with one hand;

It may be legal, but look at the last 14 words.

(ever seen a pistol with a thumbhole pistol grip? See where all that can go?)

So states that reject pistol grips do not usually reject this stock.

Again, not something I would rely on here.


We are one of the strictest gun law states in the country and our governor is ready to sign 6 more laws that will be even more restrictive.

I would suggest not taking chances in New Jersey.

Even if you have never owned or even picked up a firearm in your lifetime - just having in your possession:

a) a magazine with a capacity greater then 15 rounds
b) a folding stock (no need to have the rest of the rifle, just the folding stock)
c) a typical Dennis the Menace slingshot

Those among other things will make you an instant felon.
 

Tsys100718

Active Member
Yeah, but in all my years of evaluating police shooting, the officers missed more than they hit and these are untrained civilians in high stress situations, using firearms that they practice with maybe twice a year. Cops are required to go to the range and qualify once a month (at least in Arizona) and are in high stress situations once a week or more. So, you think that "John Q" is going to hit his/her target, in a confined space? I highly doubt it (he will probably shoot the floor at least once coming up on target). I don't want to be parked in the trailer next to most of these people I see carrying firearms. Sorry, but most of them scare me.

These people who scare you, have you ever talked to any of them to find out their qualifications? There are responsible weapons carriers, such as myself, who routinely qualify under stress course conditions. I do at least every quarter and I know that I am the exception.

I have yet to meet anyone who routinely carries that scares me. I have met a few wannabe's that did, but they are few and far between, IMHO. Of course since I served 3 combat tours in Vietnam, I firmly believe that life is like the lottery. When your number is up, it's up and there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to change it.

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If you’re going to buy a handgun and have it in your vehicle, you better get a Concealed Pistol License from the same state that issued your drivers license. A lot of states will only recognize a CPL issued by the state you’re a legal resident of, not a non-resident one. That info is also on Legal Heat.


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In Georgia, a weapon in a vehicle is perfectly legal as long as it's in plain sight.
 

Terryd91

Member
The club i belong to is home to many police depts and government agencies in SE MI. I have shot with a bunch of LEO, the "qualification" they must meet leaves very, very little to desire. How many boxes of ammo did it take them to "qualify", lets just say i get a TON a 9mm brass thanks to them LOL. The idea that they are LEO = marksman is a very poor assumption, a good number hate shooting and have zero desire to become proficient even though it could save their life.


Now the Customs and border patrol guys, I wouldn't **** them off, those guys (the ones i have shot with/around) practice and are a solid shot.
 

Lynn1130

Well-known member
The idea that they are LEO = marksman is a very poor assumption, a good number hate shooting and have zero desire to become proficient even though it could save their life.

Besides being a range officer/master and later in charge of the range and all other training for many years with a large metro police department, I did not find that to be true at all. Most police officers are A types with a high competitive spirit. We don't like coming in second :) Perhaps the officer where you were at did not like shooting but that is not the case here with any agency that I am aware of. Every one of us knew how important our weapons can become in a life or death situation.

Now, shooting at a range and shooting in a firefight are two different things, and I can tell you that there are more than a few misses when you are under that amount of stress.
 

Terryd91

Member
Being they could barely tag a full size silhouette at >10yrd under range conditions I would be terrified to be anywhere within the lethal range of their pistol in any type situation. I'll give them credit, most of them were safe and had great range manners. I'm sure not all departments are this bad, but by no means does Leo indicate some one to be a decent shot.

I'm not a great shot thanks to some heart issues that cause a lot of movement but I can at least normally tag a 10" steel silhouette at 30yrds 14 out of 18 with my cheap canik tp9sf v2. Interested to see how the tp9sfx with a red dot does...
 

Lynn1130

Well-known member
TON a 9mm brass

Yeah, sounds like they need some help. 9mm has kind of fallen out of style at least with my former agency. They have gone to 45 GAP.

Being they could barely tag a full size silhouette at >10yrd under range conditions

There is a major issue with their training if that is happening and I can tell you that someone connected to training would be all over the range people to determine what and why. When you shoot that many rounds, trying to qualify people, your budget begins to suffer and that draws attention also.
 

Terryd91

Member
Yeah, sounds like they need some help. 9mm has kind of fallen out of style at least with my former agency. They have gone to 45 GAP.

9 and 40 s&w locally. Pretty sure most of the 40 was customs and border patrol through. Now if they would start littering 6.5 Creedmoor and 10mm brass everywhere I would be all set lol.

It drew my attention... Not in a good way.
 

SCPOSWRET

Active Member
I just bought a P365, and I love it. Very hard to find, but worth the look.

Know what you mean. Had to order mine via SO at the local AFB, took a while but got the Exchange price plus
they were having a Sig 10% off weekend when I picked it up and there is no tax so it was a great deal.

My CZ 75D PCR was simular, very hard to find. Had to send credentials to CZ and took 3 months but well
worth it. Possible best kept secret, aluminum frame. Shoot like an arrow.

Shoot Safe!

Dave (Sig Man)
 
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