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charris57
04-29-2006, 05:06 PM
Heartland needs to seal their shower stalls better. We have had a problem from the beginning, and have finally found is is coming from the shower enclosure. We are now sealing it ourselves with marine 3M 5200.

Sawbonz
04-30-2006, 03:50 PM
Ours is being repaired now, right after our initial outing. The problem for us seems to be that they were trying to caulk while outside of the shower. You have to actually close the door and sit in the shower pan to adequately caulk the bottom of the unit on the inside.

RickNB
08-10-2006, 07:33 PM
I have had a problem with our shower leaking from the start and have had our dealer add caulking to the outside of it but still leaking. When I look at the design of the shower bottom and top pieces I question where the caulking should go as it looks like the top overlaps the bottom . Maybe someone could tell us where it should be sealed. By the way there was never any caulking on the inside.

Thanks
Rick:D

StevieWonder
01-03-2008, 05:12 PM
How did you discover they were leaking? Where was the water appearing?

5erWonk
01-03-2008, 10:32 PM
I'm still tracking my leak as well.....Stevie, I find mine dripping in to the basement area of my BH.

Another source I discovered when I found a drip into the basement newt to the heat vent came from the shower door when opened water ran off the door gutter and down the side of the floor vent. Easy fix, I just put a dab of caulk on the end of the gutter and no drip.

BTW, my Montana shower leaked as well and we never found the source.

fishn2dmax
01-04-2008, 02:40 AM
Is it me or does the plastic shower wall panels/ insert appear as if it is not attached physically to the walls? I also don't see any caulk used where the shower attachs to the shower base? While the base does come up behind and above the wall joint, it wouldn't take much to get moisture up behind the joint in the wall / floor.

Maybe its just my Sundance 2900MK, but as I push on the plastic shower walls, they don't appear attached at all to the wall and actually bow out from the physical wall. Is this normal? I haven't noticed any leaks, but then again we have not had the opportunity to use the new trailer much.

Johnm
01-04-2008, 08:30 AM
The shower in our 2997BHS appears to have the same issue as fishn2dmax's has.

We've also had water pools on the vinyl flooring next to the shower and in the basement storage area under the shower (both after using the shower).

It's also in the shop for repairs, and winter storage.

StevieWonder
01-04-2008, 08:40 AM
OK. So other than an ugly looking caulk job on the interior of the shower, what are the fixes being offered by the dealers you are seeing about this?

Ray LeTourneau
01-04-2008, 10:35 AM
If you have the PVC shower/tub surround they should not need to be caulked around the bottom of the walls. There is plenty of lip on the tub/base to prevent leakage in that area. Depending on the type of shower enclosure you have will determine the need for caulk. If you have a sliding fabric folding door, it is probably leaking through the channel at the base. If you have the 3 wall glass enclosure like us. It could be leaking from a couple different spots. I've caulked the entire inside of the surround and still get an ounce or so of water near a corner. I think it may be coming through the vertical channel against the outside wall. I have to run a thin bead of silicone on those channels and see if that does the trick.

Oldlthrnecksgirl
01-04-2008, 01:30 PM
Ok, I am going to go out on a limb here. We have the glass enclosure shower and it leaked. We went and got a 5 dollar tube of caulk and I caulked it. Took almost ten minutes. There was still a bit of a leak so called the dealer because we were worried it was coming from the bottom, He came out and caulked around the drain.

Sometimes it is easier to deal with a minor issue on our own when possible. In a perfect world there would be zero issues but I am very pleased with almost perfect.

RugRat
01-04-2008, 05:01 PM
This seems to be a common issue. I know mine leaked into the basement and my dealer used silicone to reseal the inside of the shower. Problem solved. I think it was leaking in the right front corner.

5erWonk
01-05-2008, 12:08 AM
I also caulked where all the glass frames met the walls which helped...Also caulk the screws on the interior channels, they are not counter sunk so they do not seal completly.

StevieWonder
01-05-2008, 10:03 AM
Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't Heartland be well served to caulk these areas at the factory even if it means an extra $20 charge to a $35-50K trailer? Cheaper to do it right the first time and there's the value of customers (apparently more than a couple) who don't have issues. Maybe that's why I don't build trailers for a living.

Oldlthrnecksgirl
01-05-2008, 01:40 PM
I guess you could go spend tens of thousands more for a unit that is caulked better on every single unit but develops different issues. I just think it should be kept in mind that a handful of people with the same issue doesn't negate the overall quality that I feel we have gotten.

5erWonk
01-05-2008, 04:27 PM
I'm not sure why they don't do a better job sealing these showers, like I mentioned before, my Montana shower leaked as well. I suspect the unit is supposed to seal itself and the caulking is the remedy when the built-in seals don't do their job.

One nice feature on my BH that Montana did not have is the port hole access inside the shower stall, this make it verry easy to see if the plumbing fixtures are the source of the leaks.

BTW I think you are better off trouble shooting the leak issues yourself than having the dealer work on it.

Sundance_kid
01-05-2008, 09:40 PM
Same problem with the 3300SK. It's in now for the 3rd time on the shower leak. They will get it fixed one of these times, but I like it going back to the dealer as there is a record of the problem. That saved me a $1000 on a vehicle problem once.

denhammkc
01-21-2008, 09:09 PM
I had to caulk all along were the glass meets the metal frame the rubber there does not stop the water as well as all around the bottom it finally did the trick, I also had to put a residential door threshold sweep on the outside of the door so that when the door is closed it bows in but does not come all the way past the bottom frame. pics to follow, it is cold here and it is in storage.

PS I was going to go to my dealer but judging by the condition the rig was in when we picked it up I think everyone at that dealership come to work on the short yellow bus. I would not trust them to wash it (they didn't do that either) let alone do any real repair work.

sunriverman
06-24-2009, 06:17 AM
I have noticed a little water on the vinyl in front of the showe door. Have caulked the base where it meets the vinyl to prevent water going under the shower base and into the storage area. With the shower door flap as it is I think you will always have the potential for a little moisture. I just leave a towel on the floor and an extra measure. Someone mentiioned caulking around the shower drain. If that is the area of the leak the drain needs to be loosen from the bottom and new plumber putty installed not caulk.

itsbeertime
06-24-2009, 06:56 AM
Ours leaked from day one too. It's the 3 panel glass wall version and it ran down into the UDC which is how I found it. It leaks between the bottom of the glass panels and the shower base, in several places. There is actually caulk there but it still leaks. It also leaks under the door because the clear plastic sweep is too short. Seems with ALL the people having this issue they'd spend an extra 30 seconds to do it right. But nah, that would be too easy.

RVerFulltime
06-24-2009, 08:28 AM
Interesting...From the beginning, our shower area had leaked. We stripped the old caulking off and applied new. Why Heartland is this a problem area for your assembly people?

tmcran
06-24-2009, 08:44 AM
Very common and continues to be a problem with QC. My 10 year old grandson can do caulking better than what is being done at the factory. I had my 2998RB at the dealer for over 2 weeks and still leaks. I just velcroed a shower curtain so the water does not hit the glass and just runs down into the pan. I'm going to completely take the shower apart and recaulk and be sure to caulk around the screws.

bigredtruck
06-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Is it me or does the plastic shower wall panels/ insert appear as if it is not attached physically to the walls? I also don't see any caulk used where the shower attachs to the shower base? While the base does come up behind and above the wall joint, it wouldn't take much to get moisture up behind the joint in the wall / floor.

Maybe its just my Sundance 2900MK, but as I push on the plastic shower walls, they don't appear attached at all to the wall and actually bow out from the physical wall. Is this normal? I haven't noticed any leaks, but then again we have not had the opportunity to use the new trailer much.

Our Cyclone is exactly the same. Caulk wouldn't begin to seal the space between the wall vinyl and the base. We don't seem to have any leaks but every time I am in the shower, I wonder about that gap. Glad to hear from Ray that it is designed that way.
Going to check the caulk around the bottom of the glass walls though and around the drain. Our kitchen sink drain has some sort of goopy caulk intead of a rubber ring so we are going to have to replace that soon. Might as well check all of them :)

wal_mart
10-23-2009, 06:57 PM
My 2900mk and now my 3100es both leaked in shower. I removed glass encloser on both and found, at least on mine, the bottom base, which has a lip on the back, to be missing the last three inches of lip on the right side or wall side. I could only fill the area with silicone caulk and it has solved the leak. By the way the same on another 2008 mk I met while in Fl.

kakampers
10-24-2009, 08:00 AM
I have had a problem with our shower leaking from the start and have had our dealer add caulking to the outside of it but still leaking. When I look at the design of the shower bottom and top pieces I question where the caulking should go as it looks like the top overlaps the bottom . Maybe someone could tell us where it should be sealed. By the way there was never any caulking on the inside.

Thanks
Rick:D

I used clear silicone and sealed the entire inside of the shower. Apply caulk everywhere the metal frame of the shower meets the fiberglass shower stall...it will keep all water inside and going down the drain. I also sealed all the seams in the metal shower wall...haven't had a leak since. doesn't look great, but no leaks, in more than two years.

mcbubba
10-24-2009, 09:35 AM
Both the shower base and surround leaked on our 2008 Sundance 3012RE. Fixed the surround with silicone caulking inside and out. Still had a leak in the basement area and ruled out the drain. Water seemed to be weeping down the inside of the exterior wall. Caulked the overlap of the shower walls over the base and have had no more problems. Big headache but at least it's fixable!

Tuke
11-27-2010, 07:38 PM
Our shower in our 09 3300 TLB has leaked from day one. It leaks at the base of the shower door. I had it back to the dealer and all they did was caulk it and it still leaked afterwards. Come to find out the caulk didnt stick, shower must have been wet or dirty. If they are put together properly to begin with then they shouldn't leak, after closer inspection it looks like the 2 walls adjacent to the door have a rubber gasket under them and the section that has the door in it does not. It is easier for me to take it apart and fix it myself then it is to take it back to the dealer. I'm glad to know that I am not the only one with this problem.

Ray LeTourneau
11-27-2010, 11:50 PM
Our shower in our 09 3300 TLB has leaked from day one. It leaks at the base of the shower door. I had it back to the dealer and all they did was caulk it and it still leaked afterwards. Come to find out the caulk didnt stick, shower must have been wet or dirty. If they are put together properly to begin with then they shouldn't leak, after closer inspection it looks like the 2 walls adjacent to the door have a rubber gasket under them and the section that has the door in it does not. It is easier for me to take it apart and fix it myself then it is to take it back to the dealer. I'm glad to know that I am not the only one with this problem.
Tuke, I did exactly as you are planning. Not a difficult job. I recommend attaching the parts that require screwing to the enclosure to be done in a new location. Don't use the old holes, fill them with silicone. Pre-drill all screw holes otherwise the fiberglass will crack. When I re-assembled by enclosure, I filed the wall channel to a radius on the bottom to match the fiberglass enclosure. You will probably have to use the same holes for the lower sections where they attach to the bottom of the enclosure.

porthole
11-29-2010, 11:21 AM
My shower has leaked since day one. And that is the one thing I keep forgetting to fix.
Spring time 2011 hopefully - does look kind of silly keeping a towel on the floor next to the shower

Tuke
05-12-2011, 12:33 PM
I finally took apart the shower today. There isn't a lip on the shower base to keep the water from spilling over the edge. There wasn't a gasket under the shower walls and there wasn't any caulk either. No wonder the shower leaked from day one. Come on heartland what are you thinking.